Comments by FWBVol

Written on Catcher Ethan Bennett leaving UT baseball program:

in response to mempuss:

He is on athletic scholarship!! If he wanted to be in the band, he should've gone out for a band scholarship....and saved an athletic one for an athlete, and someone who isnt a quitter.

What you fail to realize is a baseball scholarship is hardly the scholarship a football or basketball player receives. The NCAA allows Division I schools 11.7 baseball scholarships a year.

Most of those scholarships are divided two or three times over so everyone on the team can get a piece of the pie.

I'd rather a kid walk away from it now than wait until the fall. This way the UT staff can at least try to sign a player to fill his spot.

Written on Tyler Bray has moved beyond 'stupid mistakes' at Tennessee:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Bray made mistakes and never took it very serious. With that said he also had a horrible OL in front of him for two years,horrible coaching, and he lost a top target two straight years in Hunter then D'Rick. After Hardesty left he never had a good running back especially with OKU and Bryce Brown quitting on Doofus. Not making excuses for him, I never cared for the throat slash, but the talent is there. Hope he uses it wisely. Good Luck

To say Bray had a horrible offensive line in front of the last two years is a joke. Tennessee allowed fewer sacks than any team in the Southeastern Conference last year and was near the top of the list in 2011 as well.

Written on Trae Golden leaving Vols: 'We wish him well':

in response to asmith:

damn. juco time.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Golden can't go to a junior college as he has used three years of college eligibility at Tennessee.

If it is grades, and he can get in another school this summer and get his grades up in time for basketball season, he is still limited to a Division II option or lower. If he sits out a year, he can play as a senior in the 2014-15 season.

Written on Former Tennessee signee Travon Landry signs with New Mexico State:

in response to Ironcity:

I wish this kid well. I hate that he had to go 3000 miles to find a decent opportunity after we messed him over.

First of all, it's not 3,000 miles, maybe 1,5000. Second, read what the story says, the athlete has to request the release. Granted, Martin probably told the kid he'd be buried on the bench, but if Landry had pushed the issue Tennessee would have been required to honor his scholarship for one year.

Finally, nothing against New Mexico State, but if the kid was that strong of a recruit it seems as if someone in a better conference would have offered him a scholly.

Written on Mike Strange: With conference expansion should come the expansion of league games :

in response to CroKev:

It just seems dumb to pick an arbitrary number of wins like "6" to be bowl eligible. Imaginge if basketball did that: you win 18 games and you go to the big dance no matter who you played. It would be good if FB did like BB and weighted the schedule and "quality" wins played the most important part in whether a FB team made it to a bowl.

The current AP, Coaches, etc. polls give too much weight to overall record vs. quality of opponents played. This might be a way for lesser conferences to not be given the same consideration in post-season play.

You are comparing apples and oranges when comparing the bowl situation in football to the basketball tournament.

There are 120 DI schools in football and about 30 bowl games. By the time you figure it out almost every team that has a winning, or .500 record has to be eligble just to fill the bowl spots. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.

Basketball has more 340 Division I teams so even when you throw in the NCAA and NIT less than half the teams playing in the post season.

Written on As many as 30 scholarships could be available to Vols in 2014:

I like the way Butch Jones and the staff are addressing the needs the team will have in the future. It's important to find the big boys for both the offensive and defensive lines and we need at least one or two more running backs to go with Hurd.

I think a team needs to sign a quarterback every year and Jones seems to be in the mix for a few of the top guys at that position.

Throw in a few linebackers and a couple of DBs and receivers and we should be OK.

Written on UT releases Travon Landry from men's basketball letter of intent:

There are positives and negatives with the early signing period and this is kind of situation is definitely one of the negative things.

When a school signs a kid early it takes a chance that he might have a less than stellar senior season and then are stuck with the player or forced to release him from his scholarship as happened with Landry.

The kid doesn't have the numbers that indicate he would be successful against Southeastern Conference competition. Cuonzo Martin is in a no-win situation here. If he honors Landry's scholarship some fans are going to be crying about wasting a roster spot. And by cutting him loose other fans are saying Martin isn't showing any class.

This is the very type of situation that could create similar problems, only worse, if there was an early signing period in football.

Written on Johnny Majors thinks UT will be more disciplined under Butch Jones:

in response to CroKev:

I was at UT when Majors was there and I could tell you a few stories from the residents of Gibbs Hall - even though he could be a pain, guys like Reggie White, Bill Bates, etc. played their hearts out for him.

I remember that after he won the NC at Pittsburgh, Tony Dorsett asked if he could come down to Knoxville and play for Coach Majors (he was joking as his eligibility was up and the Cowboys had come calling). Majors first day on the job meant that almost everything in the Athletic Center was turned to orange. I remember one day the rehab tables were green and the next day they were bright orange. Majors wanted everyone to "bleed orange," something some supposed fans on this site should consider.

Majors could have stayed at Pitt and his legend would have grown but he chose, instead, to come back to his first love. Now a few of you know a little bit more of who Coach Majors is.

We all have heard stories, and probably seen things both good and bad about John Majors. He was a great Volunteer, but there is no denying that like all of us he had his own personal demons.

I do have to disagree with your statement about his legend would have grown had he stayed at Pitt. Majors legally took advantage of the recruiting rules that were in place when Pitt hired him in 1973 and recruited a huge class that included Dorsett and enabled the Panthers to win the national title.

Even with the national championship, Majors record as a head coach away from Tennessee was 69-75-2 and that's hardly the stuff of legends.

Written on Mike Strange: Bray became the NFL draft's real "Mr. Irrelevant":

in response to FanNotSheep:

Maybe Bray ain't the brightest bulb in the candelabra, but Vince Young scored the lowest score on the NFL tests ever and was a first rounder.

Maybe Bray ain't mature but I was at the Montana game when everyone thought Peyton Manning had snuck into the stadium wearing Bray's jersey.

Maybe all the Jimmy Hyams types out there will say Bray wasn't this and Bray wasn't that, but before the 2013 season is over they will wish they had an offense to watch. Here is my prediction: It will be ugly.

If an NFL coach can't coach up a young man and help him see that he has the rough skills to make him a starter, maybe even a star, in the league, then what good is he?

If Cutcliffe had coached Bray, the young man would have been a first round draft pick. So if an NFL team needs a franchise QB, maybe they should hire Cut as their QB coach and sign Tyler Bray.

And note to several idiots on this site: Tyler Bray did not lose one football game in his UT career. The responsibility for those losses goes to Coaches Dooley and Sorry Sunseri, who put the worst UT defense on the field I've seen in 45 years of watching the Vols. With the 2011 defense the team goes 8-4 last year.

If Cutcliffe had coached Bray, maybe Bray would have been a first round pick or maybe Bray would have warmed the bench because he couldn't get his act together. Cutcliffe wouldn't have put up with the beer bottle throwing last summer and he wouldn't have put up with the jet ski incident. The truth is we will never know how Bray would have responded to Cutcliffe's coaching.

I did see the segment of Bray with Jon Gruden on ESPN and Bray's football IQ looked to be somewhere in the idiot category.

And please, don't say I'm one of those Bray bashers, because I haven't been. I'm just stating my observations based on the segment on ESPN.

Written on Mike Strange: Lane Kiffin's Tennessee recruiting haul not reflected in draft:

As the old saying goes, "When you tell a kid they have potential you're just telling them they haven't done anything yet."

There was a lot of potential in that 2009 class that never did a thing.

Written on Justin Worley, Nathan Peterman not focused on competition for starting QB job during spring game:

in response to utvolfan1955:

you support UT? From all the drivel you post I don't think so troll

This guy is a Kentucky fan that comes on to stir the pot.

Written on Govols247: Lenoir City 2015 standout commits to UT :

in response to chipmurphy461:

I can't remember UT ever signing so many in-state prospects.
Randal Cobb is a VERY RARE player to come out of the state of Tennessee, I just hope for our sake these players are all legitimate prospects. Welcome aboard and good luck.

Little Man Stewart was Morristown product, Andy Kelly from Dayton, Reggie White was from Chattanooga, Al Wilson was from Jackson, Eric Westmoreland was from South Pittsburgh. And I could go on and on.

Harrison Smith, who played at Notre Dame and now plays for the Vikings, played at Knox Catholic about the same time Cobb was at Alcoa.

Cobb was only a 2-star kid that many considered too short and maybe a half step too slow to be a big time SEC player. Cobb proved almost everybody wrong.

Granted, the state of Tennessee hasn't traditionally produced as many blue chip players as Florida, Georgia or Alabama, but if we could get the top five or six prospects from the state of Tennessee to play for UT then we would have a great foundation for every recruiting class.

Written on Justin Worley, Nathan Peterman not focused on competition for starting QB job during spring game:

in response to notfunanymore:

Translation----4-8 or 5-7.

Try not to let your enthusiasm get in the way of things Sunshine. Nothing like calling the race over before it ever starts. I'm not predicting we will win 10 or 12 games this year, but we will be improved.

I didn't see the Orange and White game, but I was able to watch the Alabama spring game and their offense didn't look too good either. Saban even said he was unhappy with they way the Tide ended the spring.

There's no doubt we have a long way to go to get back to being the Tennessee football team that is one of the feared squads in college football.

Given time I believe Butch Jones will get us back in the hunt for SEC and national championships. No, it won't happen this year, but I believe we will be improved in 2013 even though it might not show up in the record.

Get on the Vol Train because it's leaving the station without you.

Written on Vols officially open new indoor training facility:

I appreciate Charlie Anderson's generous gift to the athletic department, but this is just another example where high dollar donors can side step Tennessee having a dry campus.

Written on David Blackburn sees UT time as asset for UTC athletic director position:

in response to SevenT:

Good ... say goodbye to any of Hamilton's "fetch me a cup of coffee" boys.

Just Saying

If ignorance is bliss, you are rolling in your happiness. Blackburn came into the UTAD under Doug Dickey and has been a great addition to the program.

Written on Jordan McRae still going through the 'process' of getting ready for NBA:

in response to eb502us#225637:

The whole McRae to the NBA talk is a big joke. His skills in no way shape or form translate to the NBA.

He will still play after college, but it will be in front of an audience whose first language is something other than English.

You very well could be correct, but even so he will get a salary well into the six figure range while living on someone else's dime. There are a lot worse ways to make a living than playing ball overseas.

I know a kid from my area that played his college ball at Texas Tech and has now finished two seasons in Europe and he loves the experience. He was a newlywed this season and it was like he was on an extended honeymoon as his wife was able to go to Europe with him.

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

You have to love it when Peyton says he recruits to one school and one school only, The University of Tennessee. Peyton understands the business aspect of the coaching profession, but no matter who is calling the shots on the sidelines Peyton Manning is a Vol For Life.

Written on Manning brothers back at Duke for informal workout:

in response to grandtad#1402265:

So, if Peyton Manning is so dedicated to Tennessee, why doesn't he come to some of the practices and give a few pointers or uplift the moral of the players, coaches and fans. Doesn't he realize the impact of his influence in these tough times for our Vols? I'm just saying, he has got to know what's going on in Knoxville with all of his fame and fortune and resources. Hey Peyton, I believe Butch Jones is on his way up and there are a lot of people counting on you and other players from the past. VFL and Go Big Orange!

If you weren't so busy complaining about Peyton working out with a coach that has, as the story states, seen him throw more passes than anyone other than Archie, you might have seen the story a few days ago saying Peyton will be back on campus next week for the UT coaching clinic.

I would guess while he's on campus he will probably spend time with the team. Peyton Manning has always been generous with his time and money in helping not only the Volunteer football team, but the University of Tennessee.

Anybody that complains about him working out with Cutcliffe is just plain wrong.

Written on Former Vol Bernard King elected to Basketball Hall of Fame:

Great honor for Bernard and well deserved. However while King's 1,962 points were second behind Grunfeld at the time King left, he's now seventh in career scoring for the Vols. Alan Houston leads the way followed by Grunfeld, Tony White, Chris Lofton, Reggie Johnson and Dale Ellis. It should be noted that the six guys ahead of Bernard all played four years and King left after three.

King still holds the school record for points per game with 25.8 for his career.

Written on Like Bruce Pearl, most coaches survive NCAA show-cause orders :

If Bruce Pearl had done the same things at Kentucky or Florida he did at UT and either of those schools brought him back the fans crying for his return here would be mocking the Gators and the Wildcats for bringing back a cheat.

The fact is Pearl cheated and lied about a BBQ and for some reason that seems a little questionable unless he was trying to cover up something much bigger. If he had come clean about the photo at the kids being at the BBQ the NCAA would have slapped him on the wrist with a secondary violation and the whole thing would be over with and he would still be the UT coach.

Written on Offseason could be time to evaluate Cuonzo Martin's contract:

Here's a thought, UT could give Martin an extension without upping the amount of the buyout if he is fired over the orginal buyout. By doing that Martin would have the security of telling recruits he's under contract through 2017 or whatever and UT can get rid of him at no additional charge if he doesn't get the job done.

Written on Focus for Tennessee quarterbacks is leadership, avoiding interceptions:

in response to volunteerintexas:

Has anyone heard anything regarding Gunner Kiel transferring to Tennessee?

Seems to me this is a no brainer. Kid may be looking for a home, and CBJ's style may settle him down a bit. This is a kid who last year was the top ranked, 5-star QB in the country... it's worth the risk to bring him on board, insulate him, and spend his "bench year" developing him.

I know there will be nay-sayers. However, in my mind, the upside is worth the risk.

Count me as one of the nay sayers. This kid changes his mind as often as most people change their socks. He's leaving Notre Dame because he couldn't win the starting, or backup, QB job.

He may have been a great talent coming out of high school, but what kind of competition did he really face in basketball crazy Indiana?

Butch Jones is trying to build a tough mindset and team chemistry and Kiel leaves the impression that he's just the kind of kid that can destroy the chemistry of a program. That said, I've never met the kid and I could be wrong, but with the kids we've got on campus, the guys we signed and the QBs Butch is going after for the 2014 class, we should be fine without Kiel.

Written on Purifoy's move not just an experiment at Florida:

I don't see why so many Vol fans constantly complain about stories on other SEC teams on this site. It's a free service and nobody is being deprived of anything when a story about the Gators, Alabama or Georgia shows up here.

I enjoy reading some stories about what's happen with the opposition. I like being a well informed fan without having to go to everyone else's web site.

With all due respect to the Lady Vol soccer team, I'd rather read about Florida or Alabama football.

I have a simple solution for those of you who don't want to read a story about another team, skip over it and read only stories about the Vols.

Written on Tyler Summitt contacted about Coastal Carolina job:

While 22 does seem a little young for a DI head coach even at a Big South Conference school such as Coastal Carolina, Tyler Summitt is not your typical 22-year old coach. He's absorbed more basketball...women's basketbal...in his short life than coaches 10-15 years older than he is.

It is tough enough for someone to be a head coach at the high school level at the age of 22 and being a DI college coach in this day and age seems almost impossible, but if someone can pull it off my bets would be on Tyler Summitt.

Written on University of Alabama president to recommend hiring of Bill Battle as new athletics director:

in response to volspaws:

Seems everyone has forgotten about Coach Battle's remark about the "Gay Street Quarterbacks" when he self destructed at a press conference.....it was a smug and condescending jab at Knoxvillians.....good man, mediocre football coach.

You have to remember that most of the people on this board weren't alive in 1976 when Battle was forced out at Tennessee.

I was a freshman at UT that fall and I remember his statement well.

He said, "If the Gay Street quarterbacks, and every two dollar bettor that got upset when Tennessee didn't beat the spread, knew half as much about their business as he did about his business (football), they would be working on Wall Street instead of Gay Street."

The way the press was coming down on him and the fans were treating him at that time I don't know if I wouldn't have reacted the same way. He was still a very young head coach and may have made that statement to draw some fire towards himself and away from the team that also was getting raked over the coals pretty well.

With the downward turn the team was on under Battle and the success Johnny Majors was having at Pitt at the same time, athletic director Bob Woodruff and the powers that be had no choice but to pull the plug on the Battle Era.

That led to my favorite Battlism when he said, "Class is when they run you out of town to make it look like you're leading the parade."

Written on John Adams: 'Bracketology' not an exact science:

Let's face it, this is all about money. The NCAA tournament is about making money and the conference tournaments are about making money. If you take away the automatic NCAA bids from conference tournament champions then there seems to be no need to play the conference tournaments and all that money, not only to the conference, but to the business in the host cities of the conferences is lost.

I don't see any way around the situation without eliminating the automatic bids, but that will never happen because that would nullify the reason for conference tournaments, which again goes back to the money.

Written on Cuonzo Martin baffled by Vols' NCAA tournament snub:

As someone else pointed out on a story last night, Louisville loses seven of their last 11 games and makes the tournament and Tennessee wins nine of their last 11 and doesn't make the tournament...something is wrong with that picture.

The committee has supposedly always put an emphasis on how well a team is playing at the end of the season, but that doesn't hold water with Louisville in and Tennessee out.

Written on Butch Jones says Vols are on run of 'momentum':

in response to gerwmor:

I am increasingly excited about where the program is going and where it can be in 3 years. The one thing, the only thing, I will give Kiffen is he seemed to understand UT tradition when he embraced Coach Majors. Obviously could not do that with Fulmer under the circumstances of his hiring. I am thrilled to hear that Coach Majors was at practice, was embraced by the former and current players, and that Coach Jones gets it, what it means to be UT. The Vol future can only thrive built on the tradition of the past. And CBJ does understand this basic truth. Damn it is good to be a Vol!

The only way Kiffin might have embraced Tennessee traditions was by extending a welcoming hand to Johnny Majors. Everything else he did was a slap in the face of everything that has made the Tennessee football program one of the best in the nation.

Kiffin wouldn't even recite the General's maxims before the game with the team. Kiffin was more interested in making Tennessee the Southern Cal of the East than he was building on what is the Volunteer Tradition.

Yes, at first I was deceived and bought into Kiffin's song and dance, but Derek Dooley respected the Tennessee brand far more than Kiffin ever did or will.

Written on Incoming QB Joshua Dobbs receives academic award:

in response to gillblog:

Wow ! is right.
HOWever, one has to wonder how this outstanding young man can hope to play SEC football and keep up in the classroom majoring in aeronautical engineering. I mean, those folks actually have to attend class and complete assignments of college level material which is more than can be accomplished by the majority of SEC football players these days.

If he is able to make it thru his freshman year without compromising either grades or football then he will most likely be able to make it in both areas. I admire his vision and desire already.

I think you underestimate and short change not only young Mr. Dobbs, but several other young men and women that have competed at the highest level at UT and while being among the top students in their major.

Our football program has produced young men that were in prelaw or premed disciplines and went on to law school and medical/dental school.

Bob Johnson was an All-American center in the 1960s and at the same time was one of the top students in his discipline of engineering. Darwin Walker, a starting defensive tackle on the 1998 National Championship team, was a mechanical engineering major.

Yes, there are plenty of football players would go into, what many people might think of as an easier major, but every major has classes that separate the students from those pretending to be students.

I majored in Speech Communications and I had several friends in other "more challenging" majors tell me they would stick with engineering or math.

The young people that were top students in high school usually do well in the classroom at the college level. They've already learned the keys to time management and multi-tasking.

I believe Mr. Dobbs is one of those students.

Written on Source: Graham was offered $40,000 raise to $300,000:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

The real problem is not what it appears to be, in this continuing saga of incompetence personified.

Jones stinks. So do his staffmembers.

Graham said it best---blue-collar coaches.

No heavy hitters; no top drawer types. Just lunch bucket level coaches.

Another group of losers in orange. Just that simple.

president downward need to go...

Nobody can honestly know how Jones and this staff will do in the SEC until the Vols line up against Florida, Alabama, Georgia....this fall.

As for the blue collar stuff, this nation was built by blue collar workers. The men in the steel mills were blue collar, the guys that built, and continue to build, the great buildings and highways in this country are blue collar.

Blue collar guys know what it means to roll up their sleeves and get the job done.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

in response to hueypilot:

So we need to hire a wow coach, and pay him likely a wow salary, quite a bit more than we're paying the coaches that have been with Butch for awhile. Then they feel underappreciated because the new guy is making more money or as much and has just come on board. Surefire way to sew dissent among a coaching staff that apparently likes working for Butch. We need to let Butch hire whomever he wants. He's got the job, he's got the salary, he's got the responsibility, he needs to make the hire using whatever criteria he decides.

This isn't about Butch Jones, this is about the University of Tennessee. I do support Jones and I haven't said anything as he's brought in coach after coach that has coached with him at Cinncy and Central Michigan.

In my 45 years of following college football I've never seen a coach bring this many coaches with him to a new staff.

I think we now have two coaches on our staff that have ever coached in a SEC football game for a SEC team and this does concern me.

I don't care if the coaches Jones brought with him get upset it the next RB coach makes more money, it's about the Vols, not about the coaches. They are making more at Tennessee then they would at most places and they should be happy to get that Big Orange check.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

I hate losing Graham because I think he's a great Vol. Before we go bashing him, we need to hear his reasons for leaving, which might never happen.

If a coach has to leave this is the best time for Graham to do so. It's a few weeks after signing day and a couple of weeks before the start of spring practice. The next RB coach can hit the ground running at the start of spring, no pun intended and will have plenty of time to build relationships with the backs UT is trying to recruit.

I'm glad Butch is comfortable with all of the guys that have followed him from other schools, but this is the time for him to step out of his comfort zone and hire a running backs coach with, if not a SEC background, a background from a power conference. We need to get a WOW coach in to handle the running backs, someone that everyone knows and the recruits will want to play for. If that means bumping him up the pay ladder past some of the guys that have been with Jones a while, so be it.

Written on Fourth overtime Golden for Vols, 93-85:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

UT vs Tex a&m best game of the day...who won georgetown? Last I saw Georgetown was up. LSU barely beats S car.?

Great game Vols. Welcome to the SEC Tex A&M.

LSU beat Alabama in triple OT and Georgia beat South Carolina in OT.

The local SEC network station here stayed with Alabama-LSU through all three OTs so I only saw the last three minutes or so of the first half. I guess they more than made up for it in the second half with the four overtimes.

This was a great gut check win for the Vols and it shows the kind of mental toughness Cuonzo Martin has instilled in this team. Tennessee is a reflection of the coach...unflappable and as tough as nails.

Written on In Knoxville, Butch Jones, John Jancek talk up defense to fans hungry for improvement :

in response to emailnodata:

The "3-4" was not an experiment...it's a defense that's been run off and on for 40 years or more; in the old days a 5-2 was very similar.

UT's defense was certainly bad, but the SEC also was uncharacteristically good on offense this season. Even in the bowls, the SEC offences saved the defenses butts.

Once again, the D will come down to "can you cover somebody" and can you contain the edge...and whether a 4-3 or 3-4 is not the issue.

It's true that the 3-4 defense is more or less the same thing as the 5-2 and it doesn't mattere what defense you play as long as you play defense. The issue involves the kind of players you have to play the 4-3 or 5-2/3-4.

The defensive ends in a 4-3 are true defensive ends that usually play with their hand on the ground and line up on the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle. They are usually heavier than standup defensive end/outside linebacker in the 5-2/3-4.

The defensive ends/outside linebackers in a 5-2/3-4 often have more pass coverage responsibility too.

To make the switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in college isn't easy as it requires whole sale changes in the kind of players needed to play different postions.

UT tried to make the switch to a 3-4 without having all the parts in place to the defense.

The bottom line is some coaches are successful with a 4-3 and others are success with a 3-4. If the players make plays the coaches look brilliant and if they don't the defensive coordinator ends up coaching linebackers at Florida State.

Written on 'Persistence' flips Joshua Dobbs from Arizona State to Tennessee :

in response to VolsUpsetYetAnother:

I see a couple of QB transfers in our near future. Vols recent non mobile QB's equaled SEC championships. Vols last mobile QB equaled a National Championship. Just sayin... Great job by our new staff on pulling in this quality young man and all the others!! GBO!!!

Football is the ultimate team sport and your statement about mobile or non mobile quarterbacks is a bit incomplete.

Heath Shuler was a mobile quarterback for Tennessee and he didn't even win a SEC championship. Jimmy Streater was a guy that could flat out run and throw, but there were no titles during his stay as the UT starting quarterback. Condredge Holloway was a one-man show running and passing, but he didn't win a National Title either.

Tee Martin was a great quarterback for us and he had an outstanding run as the starter. There's no doubt he did some things with his legs that put us in a position to win some games in 1998, but without Al Wilson leading the defense or the timely kicking of Jeff Hall in clutch situations Tee might have suffered the fate of Manning and the others.

Alabama has won under Saban with dropback passers. Yes, the guys can move out of danger, but they aren't going to blow you away with their ability to run the football.

With linebackers running 4.4 and 4.5 40s and defensive ends running the 40 in 4.6 or 4.7 quickness and elusiveness is as important as pure speed because the great defenses recruit speed guys that can catch the fastest quarterbacks a large part of the time.

Written on Kenny Hall won't be suspended following arrest:

Legend has it that when a certain Benard King was playing for Tennessee in the mid-1970s he was pulled over for erractic driving. The officers did a couple of the field sobriety tests and determined that he wasn't drunk and it was safe for him to drive such as it was. They told him they would follow him back to Gibbs to assure he would arrive at the dorm safely.

The first side street King comes to he makes a quick turn and leads the officers on what turned out to be a wild goose chase around Knoxville that included, at times driving speeds that were about the posted limit. King and the officers eventually arrived at Gibbs Hall taking three or four times as long as it should have to get there.

When the officers were questioned why the didn't give King a ticket or arrest him they replied, "We didn't tell him which way to take back to the dorm or how fast to drive while getting there."

Things have changed in the last 40 years. And even if the legend is wrong, it still makes for a great story.

Written on Poll: How do you feel about the 2013 football recruiting class so far?:

Ask me in three or four years how I feel about this class. In 2009 I was very excited about the class the current USC coach assembled while he was working for Tennessee, but by 2010 I wasn't getting the warm fuzzies about the class.

One of the reasons behind Auburn's current recruiting success might stem from the relationships the previous staff had with coaches in the state of Alabama. Dooley's staff apparently didn't do a good job of working with the coaches in Tennessee. Butch Jones and his staff have spent a large part of the recruiting season building the relationships with high school coaches that were ignored by Dooley.

Even if Jones misses on a lot of the high-star guys, he has gotten Tennessee back in the conversation with them.

I think we will get Bell and there are always one or two surprises in every class. If we end up with a Top 20 class this year Jones will have been successful.

When we have a good season next year it will pay off on the recruiting trail next year.

But as I said at the start of this post, ask me in a few years what I think of this class.

Written on Mike Hamilton defends department's debt practices:

in response to RememberWhen:

Your next piece of factual knowledge will be your first. The ONLY problem with the UTAD is the lack of winning! Blame Hamilton for the football coaching situation if you want, that's fine, but the bottom line is that if Fulmer hadn't gotten fat(ter), dumb and lazy the football program would still be elite, fans would still be flocking to Neyland, and boosters would still be dumping millions in. Hamilton made a decision to make a change. That's his call and his job. Kiffen was a quality hire and got better results right off the bat - on the field and moreso in recruiting - don't tell me about how many left because they came to play for Kiffin not Opie. The fact that Pearl got stupid about the same time and brought the NCAA to the doorstep with guns blazing forced Hamilton to hire Mr. I Can't Coach but I'm Squeeky Clean when Kiffin chose to take a better job. Those are the facts. The man made bad hires and of course chose to grossly overpay the WOMENS bball coach. All of the "cleaning house" in the UTAD has been initiated by Hart not Hamilton and was long overdue besides being the right thing to do so as to eliminate redundency and waste after the merger of the mens and womens depts. The solution is equally simple...WIN FOOTBALL GAMES AND GET BACK TO BEING ELITE. The combination of more ticket sales and larger donations that winning provides coupled with the efficiency gains administratively and added to the completion of payouts to bad coaches will be more than enough to get things back on track. It's not panic time - except for getting rid of Martin before he totally does to basketball what Fulmer/Dooley did to football - and it can turn quickly. All you little fools making your $9 an hour get excited about big numbers like $200 million but as the article points out...the experts find it more than acceptable so just S_T_F_U!!!

Here's a news flash for you Mr. Know It All, by your own statements you acknowledge the men and women athletic departments were separate under Hamilton's watch, which means Hamilton had nothing to do with Pat Summitt's contract. Also, the University had a master plan in place to merge the men and women departments long before things fell apart under Hamilton's watch.

As for Pat Summitt being overpaid, although you didn't call her by name, she's the winningest coach in the history of her sport and the includes men or women. Even if you buy the argument that it's not fair to compare the women's game with the men's game, which, by the way, I do, she is still the winningest coach in the history her sport of women's baskeetball. Pat Summitt won more national championships than anyone in the history of women's college basketball and helped the University of Tennessee bring in a lot of money during her time.

Even if you throw out all of those factors, by law the University of Tennessee was required to pay her a comparable salary to that of the men's coach.

Written on Poll: Should the Vols recruit more junior college football players?:

in response to davemanthevolfan:

No!!!! They were either not physically ready, or to dumb to get into school to begin with. Jackie Sheryl or how ever you spell it tried the JC route his last few years and it blew up in his face. Take HS kids and stick with them and the coach long enough to make it work. Give him longer than three years too. Arm chair quarterbacks make me sick.

People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The proper use of "to dumb" is actually "too dumb." And the proper spelling is Sherrill.

It is true that many junior college players aren't physically ready for the SEC or Big 10 when they graduate from high school and nobody is suggesting Butch Jones go out and recruit a 250-pound JC offensive tackle. Some kids mature physically later than others and the junior college option allows them to bulk up and grow into their adult bodies.

Academically some kids do lack the discipline to succeed in high school or they don't realize it until it's too late or they don't get good advice from their high school coaches about the academic requirements they will need to meet to go to college. A junior college is a place kids can go and develop strong academic habits needed that will translate to a four-year school.

In many ways JC players are less of a risk than high school players. A JC player has already been away from home and won't deal with the homesick issues. They have played a level of football above the high school game so they are, in some ways, easier to evaluate as players. Most junior college players also have worked through the academic issues that often hinder freshmen in their first year of school.

Really, the only drawback to signing a junior college player is they only have two years of eligibility.

Written on Dallas Cowboys hire Derek Dooley as wide receivers coach :

in response to collegegrovebilly:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

The worst coach in college football history, anyone on this site could have guided UT to four SEC wins in three seasons, good men don't take 5 million dollars that don't belong to them, are you serious?

Your fantasy league team probably hasn't won four games in the last four years and you make statements like that.

Yes, I supported Derek Dooley right up to the Vandy game and then I saw the writing on the way and agreed it was time for him to leave. But if being a head coach was as easy as you make it sound then everyone would do it?

I could see the argument that Derek Dooley might be the worst coach in UT history, but that depends on the criteria by which he is judged. There's no way that he's the worst coach in college football history or even the history of the SEC. He never had a winless season at UT and did manage to win at least one SEC game every year. Go back and check the record books as to the number of coaches that didn't win a conference game or a game at all and then come back and try to make your argument again.

As for Dooley taking the 5 million dollar buyout that was in his contract. He didn't quit, which would have negated the buyout. He negotitated a contract in good faith and while he did't do as well as fans would have like, by all evidence, he honored his end of the contract so UT was obligated to honor the university's end of the contract.

It's not as if the man doesn't have a wife a three children to care for. But even the family aside, it was a contract and a good man will take what is agreed to go to him without changing the fact he is a good man.

And really, you can't tell me that under the same circumstances you wouldn't take the many too.

Written on Derek Dooley to offer recruiting commentary on ESPNU's National Signing Day coverage :

in response to voldog100:

Wow amazing someone can have this bad of a record and be hired by ESPNU.Amazing the guy should of stayed a Lawer.Its amazing how he could get hired like that.I dont think the Bamboo Grew.

I he had a good record, he'd still be coaching and wouldn't need a temporary gig.

By the way, what's a "lawer?"

Written on David Climer: Vols staff looks close to home for recruits:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

If stupid was a contagious disease you'd be in an isolation ward.

Written on David Climer: Vols staff looks close to home for recruits:

in response to Coach_K:

One of the reasons we need to do a better job of recruiting area h.s. kids is, They won't be so "homesick". How many kids have left due to family issues or because they felt outta place? Some of the departures are just normal to coaching changes, some have been due to a need to go back home where they feel comfortable. Here is quick list of guys in recent memory who should have rocked the POWER T: Patrick Willis (Brucetown, Tn, 2*, S.F. 49'ers), Harrison Smith (Knoxville, Tn, 4*, Minnesota Vikings) Dont'a Hightower (Lewisburg, TN, 4*, New England Patriots), Michael Oher (Memphis, Tn, 5*, Baltimore Ravens) Barrett Jones (Memphis, Tn, 4*, NC, top ten pick this year), Dontari Poe (Mamphis, Tn, 2*, Kansas City Cheifs),Golden Tate (Hendersonville, Tn, 4*, Seattle Seahawks), Randal Cobb (Alcoa, Tn, 2*, Green Bay Packers)

Notice that I only listed the ones we missed on. Some of which you'll notice were only two stars, hardly in a "bidding" war. All of these guys are starters or play significant roles in the NFL. This list does not include the guys who we got and failed to coach. I am sure I have missed some "under the radar" guys. While TN does not produce the numbers that a Fla, Tx, Ca, we do produce some of the best talent in the country.

Lock down the borders CBJ! Keep these boys home and help them bring the "crystal ball" back home!

Yes, we missed on Cobb and some of the other guys you mentioned, but others on your list were stretches from the beginning.

Oher, if you saw the movie, The Blind Side, chose Ole Miss basically because the Touhy that adopted him off the streets were Ole Miss grads. Barrett Jones was an Alabama legacy who's dad had played for the Bear. Yes, he lived in Tennessee, but he was closer to Tuscaloosa in the Memphis area than he was to Knoxville. Harrison Smith was torn during the recruiting process between Notre Dame and Tennesssee, but the kid is a Catholic kid that attended Knoxville Catholic, and I believe his dad is a Notre Dame grad so it was going to be tough to keep him out of South Bend.

UT recruited Tate pretty strong, but he just chose Notre Dame.

You also listed a handful of 2-star kids that had Tennessee heavily recruited them, the fans would have gone through the roof.

As another poster pointed out, we will never lock down our borders completely. The big thing is to keep the kids that are great players in Tennessee and grew up dreaming of the Vols in the fold. We also must get the Tennessee kids that might not have been Vol fans, but are great players on board about playing for the home state team.

Written on Mike Strange: Steve Stripling hopes to bring stability to ever-changing defensive line coaching position :

Our struggles on the field and in recruiting have as much to do with coaching turnover as anything else. Continuity of head coach and staff make a huge difference in how a team performs on the field.

Yes, a three-point stance is a three-point stance no matter who is coaching, but the techniques coaches teach and how the line, linebackers and secondary coordinate can change from defense to the next.

I hope for the sake of the team first and fans second that this staff is together for several years and we enjoy the success that goes with it.

Written on Brent Musburger's ogling of Alabama QB's girlfriend goes viral:

OK, it all has to do with professionalism. It would be one thing for him to make the comments sitting around the local pub with some friends, but when you are doing a national television broadcast there are certain limits.

I work for a small newspaper and I have to be careful not to make reference to the "attractive coed" or the "cute blonde point guard."

Would Musberger made a similar comment if he had been doing the women's basketball championship game and one of the star players was dating a body builder that was the reigning Mr. Arizona? And would those of you defending Musberger think he was right to say that Mr. Arizona was hot?

Musberger over stepped the line of professionalism and he at least should make a public apology for those that he might have offended. ABC/ESPN should then put him out to pasture.

Written on Cody Clay chooses Division II school over Tennessee:

Come on people, show a little class. Not everyone is born to be a Tennessee football player. None of us know this kid or the reasons behind his decision not to come to Tennessee. Maybe it dawned on him how much he would miss his family. Or maybe, as Evan suggested, he had to do with the fact that the kid wants to be on a Christian campus.

None of us had never heard the boy this time last week and now we have so-called fans bashing him for not choosing Tennessee. I'd rather a kid make the wrong choice not to attend UT than the wrong choice to attend UT. It's better that he make the decision before signing day, or in his case, early enrollment than to get to Knoxville and realize he made a mistake.

Yes, the kid's visit was a valuable official visit and it did take up some time of Butch Jones and some of the coaches. But I'd rather him take up the time now and decide Tennessee isn't the right fit than to see him get into spring practice or summer drills and head home.

Written on Mike Strange: Is Notre Dame the cure for SEC Fatigue? :

I was born and raised on SEC football. I'm first, and before all else, a Tennessee fan as UT is my alma mater true. But I have respect for the great programs in our conference that have continually risen to the top of the mountain in recent years.

I will not let a few obnoxious Bama fans keep me for pulling for the Crimson Tide tonight. Alabama is Southeastern Conference Family and even if you don't alway like your family members you stand with them against outsiders. As far as I'm concerned there is no school that is more of an outsider to the SEC than Notre Dame and with that in mind I'm pulling for the Tide to come in once again.

Written on Quarterback Tyler Bray selects agent Don Yee :

Like Bray or not, the kid walked into a no win situation. The coach that recruited and signed him as an early enrollee, Kiffin, bolted for Southern Cal before Bray attended his first class at UT.

Both his freshman and sophomore years the best receiver on the team (Gerald Jones in 2010 and Justin Hunter in 2011) missed large parts of the season because of injury. And then Bray gets hurt last year.

The offense Bray quarterbacked this year scored enough points to win at least nine games if we would have had an average defense.

Yes, Bray had some maturity problems, but probably no more than many young men in college or kids his age period. Physically, he had perhaps the strongest arm of any quarterback to play for the Vols.

When he was good, he was very good. Unfortunately for Bray, he was never good in the games we care about the most; Florida, Georgia, Alabama....

Written on Mike Strange: Why watching basketball is better than watching football :

Mike, with all due respect, you are showing your Kentucky roots when you make your debate for basketball being better than football.

Football has big hits, the two-minute drill, spring football, the Heisman watch and, this year, Johnny Touchdown. Football is playing in 90 degree weather in September and snow in November or December. Football requires being able to adapt and adjust not just to the other team, but, with the exception of games played in dome stadiums, the elements as well.

Football is the ultimate team sport when the offensive linemen play their entire careers knowing that by design they will never touch the ball or score and the only time they will hear their number called by the PA guy is when they are guilty of a penalty.

Football is Steve DeLong, Steve DeLong and Keith DeLong...the Majors Brothers, Archie Manning at Ole Miss, Peyton at UT and Eli at Ole Miss.

Yes, football only has one game a week, but that too is part of the beauty of the game as the anticipation builds for Saturday and afterwards fans have a week to talk about what went well in victory or what went wrong defeat.

Written on USC shows up an hour late for bowl dinner; Trojans player cusses El Paso:

in response to SevenT:

Of course you are right. Which is why Tennessee picked him to be their MAN. Kiffin was a perfect fit for Tennessee. He ran his mouth from day one and Tennessee fan LOVED IT. Johnny Majors even moved back to Knoxville to be close to the savior!

I finally figured out what your screen name, SevenT means, it represents the seven times Kentucky has beaten Tennessee in football since 1950.

If anyone should understand that fans support their coaches, no matter how big of a jerk they might be, it should be Kentucky with your long line of basketball coaches that have been a C and L short of having any class.

Tennessee is recovering from Lane era, Kentucky football will never recover.

Features