Comments by FearTheVols1252

Written on Vols aiming to have nation's top offensive line:

On the flip side of this coin, I've got to believe that practicing against this group all the time will make our Dline that much better. Some damage will be done in the trenches this year.

Written on In wake of Manziel saga, UT rewrites autograph policy:

in response to southernbelle79:

It is tough to be a Division 1 athlete. Coaches can make millions off your talent. Schools can make millions off your talent. If you get hurt, or you aren't big enough or fast enough, you never get a chance to make anything off your talent.

Sure, you get a college education, but with the health risks of major injuries including concussions, it seems like a pretty raw deal to me.

My solution? Cap coaches salaries and let players share in conference profits using a simple formula such as all players with 51% playing time get x% and all others on the team get y%.

The idea that Division 1 football players are amateurs is a silly fiction the adults tell the kids so that the adults can get rich off the kids.

No disrespect, but this line of thinking absolutely infuriates me.

Since when did an education become ‘not enough’?! Yes, schools make millions off your talent, but if you’re THAT good you have just received all the coaching and exposure you need to make it to the NFL and make millions. If you’re not as talented, you just walked out of school with a free education and no tuition debt to worry about, unlike 99.9% of the rest of us.

Yes, it’s tough from a time perspective to be a D1 athlete, but guess what… that’s the price you pay for CHOOSING to be a D1 athlete. And believe me… they are WELL taken care of. They get:

- A free education
- Their own living facilities
- Food whenever they want (and depending on the school, sometimes chefs to make it for them)
- An entourage of trainers, dieticians, and massage therapists
- Access to top-notch facilities and equipment
- Tutoring services
- Plus, they’re treated like GODS on campus

And now people want to pay them on top of that?!?! Are you kidding?!?

Plus, as mentioned previously… that would open up the floodgates for boosters to filter additional money to these kids. It’s already corrupt, but it would get COMPLETELY out of control!!

Yes, universities make a ton of money off these kids… as they should. Much of that money goes towards the aforementioned list of benefits these athletes already receive. And if the athlete performs well, they will ultimately make a ton of money also. If they’re that good and they get injured, there are insurance policies they can take out to be well compensated in case something unfortunate like that occurs.

Written on Mark Wiedmer: Phillip Fulmer takes responsibility, likes UT Vols coach Butch Jones:

in response to VolzsFan:

Coach Fulmer, with all things being considered, was by far the best coach in school history. He is a Hall of Famer with only a handful of coaches in the Hall of Fame with a better resume. He would be about the 2nd or 3rd winningest coach in SEC history had they not screwed up the program by firing him. I think he is still 6th. This decline everyone speaks about was still averaging close to 10 wins per year, national recognition and full houses. They went to Atlanta about every couple of years.

Make no mistake about it. The 1990s which included one of college footballs greatest runs of 45-5, will never be duplicated at Tennessee. It will not be duplicated at almost any school.
That being said, the record of 2000-20008 also will never be duplicated again. I assure you Butch will take the record and accomplishments of the 2000-2008 years and not blink thinking he did a great job. You are holding a man to a standard that he created where it had never been there prior. He was being judged from slipping from a level that no one ever dreamed UT would be to a level that UT has also never been to and certainly not in the modern era.

Lets hold Butch to the 45-5, a legit National Title and back to back SEC Titles as his standard. He will never come close. This program will never again come close.

Get over your lunacy fed by the likes of Adams. Oh yea, enjoy your change. This is what you asked for!!

Pffft!! You trolls make me laugh. You spend the better part of your day perusing opposing teams sites under numerous alias’s in an attempt to come across as ‘enlightened ones’ while patting yourselves on the back and bashing other fans, yet have the audacity to use terms like ‘lunacy’ to describe fans showing support for their team… on their own site.

What a bunch of tards!

Written on UT's Don Mahoney wants to send his line out on winning note:

in response to hateNCloveTN:

This line is experienced and prepared. The biggest issue with this team is the defensive and offensive backfield. Neither have much experience. The defensive backfield showed promise during the spring game but the offense showed poorly. If we can decide on a QB and these running backs deliver then we can/will have a decent season. Here's to a happy ending for this great offensive line. GBO

I’m hoping the conditioning and up-tempo nature of this offense helps us overcome some of the talent deficiencies at skill positions and leads to 1 or 2 upsets for teams that may not be able to keep up in the 4th quarter. If we’re able to do that, and some of these skill players evolve over the course of the season, we could be a pretty dangerous team by seasons end. Only time will tell.

Written on John Adams: Phillip Fulmer needs to look in a mirror before assessing blame:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

We at Vandy love the fact UT was delusional and fired Fulmer, Chavis, Sanders, Kippy Brown (basicly), and all those other Vols for life like Chuck Smith. I guess Adams forgets that Vandy had three head coaches in 3 years and believes that Vandy was loaded with the best SEC talent or Kentucky was a hot bed of football talent when Dooley lost to both. The truth is since Fulmer was SCREWED coaches have run from UT like it has herpes with as many as 7 coaches bolting in one year. Nobody wants that job thats why Dooley was there and now Jones is there. UT has a black eye for firing Fulmer and history is showing what a HUGE mistake it was. Enjoy another whipping by vandy and thanks for all the help from those so called Vols for life. Hilarious!!

I don’t think it was a mistake to get rid of Fulmer. Fulmer was losing control of the program (i.e. player arrests) and was making a series of bad hires. I have no ill-will towards Fulmer, but I do think it was time for him to go. What was bad was the administrations decisions surrounding Fulmer’s removal and their coaching choices thereafter. Those bad decisions put us in the hole we’re currently trying to get out of. And you can act like a troll all you want and take jabs, but while the Jones hire didn’t make a huge splash, it’s hard to deny now that he wasn’t the right choice. You can’t tell me one miss-step he’s made since taking over. Recruiting is going better than it has in a long time, the players have shown that they’re willing to bend over backwards for him, he’s re-energized the fan base, and he’s building a better relationship with former players and coaches.

Will it take time? Yes. Am I willing to wait? Absolutely.

Written on Vols buying into Butch Jones' many quirks:

in response to NINEwillstillbesofine:

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Sad attempt = your never-ending lame attempt to fire everyone up
Sad attempt = the amount of time you spend doing so
Sad attempt = thinking that it actually works
Sad attempt = thinking your cool while talking tough on web forums
Sad attempt = the fact that you’ve been trolling here longer than most real fans have been posting on this board
Sad attempt = your home life

Here… have some more Troll-Aid.

Enjoy.

Written on Heat coach Spoelstra attends Tennessee practice:

in response to Rumblefish:

Your schtick of 4-8/5-7 is already old. How about you talk some actual football?

Oh...and I already stated in a previous post that anybody on this site could win with those 3 players. DawgDayAfternoon...more like JohnyComeLately.

If TN is so bad...how come we almost hung half a 100 on you in your own house? Yeah, I thought so....

He's no dawg fan and knows nothing about football. Just a troll who changes his handle over and over again so he can repeat the same boring diatribe in hopes of getting a rise out of people.

I was hoping he could at least provide some good trash talk, but he's too stupid to generate anything new. This troll = boring. It's hard to fail at trolling, but he's managed to find a way.

Written on Vols land four-star juco DL Lambert :

in response to DawgDayAfternoon:

I wonder if he'll one of the 10 or 12 in this class who'll decommit, when Butchie Boy turns in the Vols typical 5-7 record; leaving you with your usual class ranked 21st to 24th, and about 11th in the SEC?

Yawn! Version 5,792 of the same boring diatribe. You need to work on originality, troll.

Written on Vols land four-star juco DL Lambert :

in response to SevenT:

A JUCO? What a desperate move for UT

Ha! Not as desperate as your lame attempt at an insult.

The trolls are slipping.

Written on Vincent Dallas, Jalen Reeves-Maybin on the move in Monday's practice:

in response to FearTheVols1252:

I heard Wes Welker on the radio this afternoon say it may be serious… a possible season-ender, but he was hesitant to say for sure until it’s confirmed.

Sorry... Wes Rucker, not Wes Welker... it's Monday, for sure.

Written on Vincent Dallas, Jalen Reeves-Maybin on the move in Monday's practice:

in response to TNFaninFL:

What happened to Riyahd Jones ??? Didnt read about any injury to him ...

I heard Wes Welker on the radio this afternoon say it may be serious… a possible season-ender, but he was hesitant to say for sure until it’s confirmed.

Written on David Climer: Vols could shake things up with freshman QB:

in response to DawgDayAfternoon:

It must be painfully obvious to you that Vols don't "care" about Dawgs. Three straight beatdowns, and a fourth one coming this year, make that pretty clear.

Well… too bad you’re not a ‘Dawg’ fan then.

Written on David Climer: Vols could shake things up with freshman QB:

in response to DawgDayAfternoon:

Speaking of "boring", "the same thing over, and over" and "how bad things are at home", I imagine that living in a fantasy land of Vol relevance,while looking at your third straight 5-7, is pretty bad..

If you find it so boring, why do you feel the need to keep going out of your way to change your screen name just so you can keep regurgitating the same drivel?

Ahhh yes… no friends, no significant other, and no life. Never mind… it all makes sense now. Please proceed with your drivel and we’ll continue humoring you by pretending we care.

Written on David Climer: Vols could shake things up with freshman QB:

in response to SummittsCourt:

I'm amazed at how many idiot band wagon jumping clowns from other schools come here to prove their stupidity.

Nice going dawgcra pafternoon - you won idiot of the moment for now.

Really, there's only about a handful of trolls who come here regularly. However, they think it's cool to change their names and spew the same garbage every day. Sorry to say, but the trolls have gotten boring. They used to bring some originality to the board, but now it's just repeating the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again. I can only imagine how bad things are at home for them if they're spending so much time in a Vol forum repeating the same ignorance all the time.

Written on Vols on their toes after Butch Jones throws camp a curveball:

in response to LifetimeVolFan98:

I'm assuming you are a "dawg" fan - so keep in mind your "reality check" comes on Aug 31st, your demise and fall from the SEC east lead will be on Sept 7th, your fall from the top 25 comes on Sept 28th and your complete demise as a "touted" top 10 team comes to a head on Oct 5 right here in K-town....UGA will lose a minimum of 4 games this yr.

He’s not a ‘dawg’ fan. He’s constantly changing his identity and spews nonsense to try and get a rise out of everyone.

Written on Vols' secondary using criticism as motivation:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

I think the coaching change alone is good for 6 wins. We got the right staff.

I think the previous regimes have shattered everyone’s confidence (understandably so). Our defense will be much improved simply due to being in a system that better fits their talent level. Now, I’m not suggesting they will be GREAT, but I think they will surprise a few.

Second, while we lost most of our skill players from last year, I feel reasonably confident that this offensive unit (barring no major injuries) will only get better as the season progresses. We clearly have one of the best O-lines in the country, so once those skill players (and QB’s) get up to speed, I think we’ll start seeing more wins come our way.

I think 7 wins is likely, and 8 wins is possible. Throw in 1 or 2 upsets, and I think this group will be heading in a perfect direction.

Written on Defense looks to 'wreak havoc' with pass rush:

in response to Orange_Beach:

I'm with you, this outfit couldn't stop Vandy a few months ago and now they are going to "Wreak Havoc". This is classic journalism in it infancy.

How I love irony… particularly when trolls spend their days on opposing teams forums, and then have the audacity to use words like ‘infancy’.

Written on John Adams: Western Kentucky would be worst loss for the Vols :

Thanks John for finding yet another positive story to write while feeding the trolls.

Written on RB Brandon Powell rescinds commitment to Vols:

in response to NINEwillstillbesofine:

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Not true... some things do change. See, we are currently still holding a top 5 class, which is not the norm for us at this stage. On the flip side of that coin, your precious gators are typically in the top 5 around this time but instead (depending on which poll you're looking at) are barely in the top 25, barely in the top 10 in the SEC, and currently trail Vandy. Not to mention, you're dead last in the state of Florida, while your 2 biggest in-state rivals are also sitting comfortably in the top 5.

Indeed things do change. As far behind as you currently sit, I guess you should continue clinging your hopes to signing day being a ways off.

Woof, woof.

Written on GoVols247 special: Get the entire regular season FREE! :

in response to tovolny:

This is your first ever post...So, it looks like you may be a KNS bug like a couple of other lost posters.

Wrong answer... thanks for playing. Been posting here for years.

Written on GoVols247 special: Get the entire regular season FREE! :

I'll admit that I subscribed to 247 with hesitation, but as a Vol fan I've found it to be a good investment. Ryan, Wes and Kevin do a great job, are very responsive to comments/questions, and have much deeper insight on recruiting than KNS. PLUS, you don't have to deal with all the trolls. Once in a while one will sneak in, but again, they do a great job policing those individuals and removing them.

My .02

Written on Jabo Lee's coach upset with Tennessee:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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Dumbest. Troll. Ever.

No ethics?? Really?? Wow. I'll bet your parents wish they still had the receipt for you. Certainly they could exchange you for something better... or at least for someone with some assemblance of a brain.

Written on John Adams: Maximizing improvement: Follow 8 'Don'ts of Sal Sunseri':

in response to CantStandCantStandSaban:

I think we can stop lamenting our defensive performance was last year. Time to move on.

Agree... but you know JA won't let us forget. He didn't write a single football article last year without mentioning the loss to KY. I can't imagine he'll write any football article this season without mentioning the Sal Sunseri disaster of last season.

JA likes to kick, headbutt, and elbow people when they're down.

Written on John Adams: Butch Jones' recruiting proves that UT tradition still matters:

in response to VolzsFan:

The difference in Hall of Fame coaches and the Johnny come latelys is the ability to recruit to the depth chart. There are no difference making OL and zero DL in this class. Not a winning strategy.

Ummm... we're not done recruiting for 2014 yet... just in case you're a little slow.

Spewing ignorance on internet forums without thinking first isn't a 'winning strategy' either.

Written on Poll: Of Tennessee's four non-conference games per season, how many should be against teams from power conferences?:

Poll: What will the next stupid, meaningless poll question be?

Written on Mike Strange: A stronger Tennessee levels SEC playing field:

in response to Lizardgrad89:

When Tennessee was winning, the SEC wasn't dominating the BCS title game every year like they are now. Makes a difference.

The BCS title game has only existed since the 98/99 season, and since then the SEC has won 9 of them (out of 15 total). No matter how you slice it, I'd say that's dominating given its short existance.

Written on Mike Strange: A stronger Tennessee levels SEC playing field:

in response to EastTnVols962:

The record doesn't lie when looking at the past, and UF has beaten us down a lot recently. But I feel like you all forgot how that game went last year. Yeah our defense crumbled in the 4th quarter, but UF did not by any means dominate that game. You happened to have a coach who knew the meaning of halftime adjustments at the time. I'm not saying we win this year, especially at the swamp, but to say we got "woodshedded" is completely inaccurate.

I don't think it had as much to do with halftime adjustments made by UF as much as it did that we simply had a moron for a DC. What's scary is that if Wilcox were still DC, we would have dominated that game. Yes... I said dominated, and the trolls know it (though they'll NEVER admit it).

However... woulda, coulda, shoulda... but didn't. It's just one more thing I'd like to thank Dooley for. :-/

Written on Mike Strange: A stronger Tennessee levels SEC playing field:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

These straw hat wearing dorks had UF losing 6+ games last year and not making a bowl game. They were utterly convinced Tyler Bray would pass his way to a blowout over UF last year. Any UT fan predicting a UF record should be laughed at.

I watched the replay of the UF-UT game again last night. The looks on the faces of the UT fans as Trey Burton, and Driskel, and Gillislee, and Hammond were running it up is priceless. You can almost read their lips; "this ain't right, y'all, we uns were spost to rush the field and tear down dem there goal posts." The looks on their faces as the UF defense picked Bray, harrassed Bray, knocked Bray around, absolutely priceless. It's so much more fun when they think they're going to win. Let's hope they think so this year too.

Straw hat wearing dorks??... says the jort wearing internet troll who spends his days trying to look tough on opposing teams forums?!

Ummm pot... kettle is calling.

Written on Govols247: Four-star linebacker Kevin Mouhon's commitment makes six in a week for Tennessee:

in response to VolzsFan:

No OL anyone wanted. No DL at all. All adds up to another fired coach in 3-4 years.

You have to recruit to your depth chart. You have to recruit to your needs.

Didn’t realize you were a talent scout. Ahhh yes… that’s because you’re not.

Tell me troll… how have we not recruited to our needs? Do you recruit lineman based on an offer list, or as you say, do you recruit them to your ‘needs’?! Who’s to say he hasn’t recruited those 3 OL based on needs and how well they fit in the system… you? Sorry, but CBJ isn’t about to take advice from internet trolls. If that makes him a bad coach… well, I guess he’s a bad coach. Plus, I think a previous poster already disproved that theory.

We’re also not done recruiting just yet… in case that thought escaped your trolling mind. We still have several DL prospects that we’re very much in contention for.

Lastly, do tell how we haven’t been fulfilling needs?

Typical troll who’s upset their recruiting class isn’t ranked as high and is desperate for insults.

Written on Govols247: Fla. lineman commits to Tennessee :

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Oh and in the process of writing my last comment, we picked up another 4-star receiver who coincidentally turned down (among other schools) CandyLand!

Commodore 4!!! Yank 'er down!!!

Written on Govols247: Fla. lineman commits to Tennessee :

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Well, our "6th choice" is currently out-recruiting CandyLand.

Plus, I find humorous that you conveniently forget that Franklin was Vandy’s 4th choice for head coach. Vandy was denied by Golden, Coker, and Malzahn before they settled on Franklin. What’s really funny is that Malzahn rejected Vandy for less money with the mighty Arkansas State Red Wolves! I guess he saw more promise there until a real SEC job became available. When Franklin leaves for a better gig, CandyLand will fall from mediocrity back to their rightful place in the cellar.

Commodore 4!!! Yank ‘er down!!!

Written on Vanderbilt plans to go from 'good to great':

Good to great?? Pffft! Wish in one hand and cr@p in the other and see which gets filled first, Franklin. Just sayin...

Written on Vols picked fifth in East by SEC media:

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Funny considering every one of your posts are a copy and paste job.

And how many times during the "Decades of Beatdowns" did we hear Vandy fans defend themselves by crying out "at least we don't recruit thugs". Well... that defense is no longer applicable.

What will be funny is when Vandy is back in the cellar AND you can no longer say you don't recruit thugs... just a matter of time.

Yank 'er down!

Written on At SEC Media Days, Butch Jones stays on message, as players promise better days:

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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You seem to conveniently ignore decades of beat downs, then accuse others of selective amnesia?!? We'll see if your candyland bromance with Franklin continues after a sub par season and departure to a real school.

Written on SEC Media Days notebook: Jeff Driskel thinking football first; Ole Miss tries to manage expectations, tough opener :

in response to 8inarow:

Well, it appears that most of the previous Vols who posted and the author of the article thought it was unusual. Maybe you were just "hoping" that a Vols coach would have said it first. Then it would have been front-page news for you.....

It probably only appeared unusual due to the fact that it came from a UF coach, given the years of disciplinary decay under the previous regime. Perhaps it is front page worthy.

Written on Tennessee/Missouri matchup could be pivotal as both schools eye a turnaround :

in response to GONAVY:

You're only feeding him. Ignore him and he will lose interest.

He hasn't lost interest in a LONG time... just keeps changing names. Might as well have fun with him and prove his ignorance time and again since he doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Written on Johnny Manziel says he 'overslept' at Manning camp:

So let me get this straight... he was rooming with McCarron. McCarron got up, got ready, and Johnny 'dimwit' never even heard him?!? Riiiiight. And of course he didn't have an alarm... he was too drunk to set the alarm clock and/or plug in his phone.

Dude is full of it.

Written on Tennessee/Missouri matchup could be pivotal as both schools eye a turnaround :

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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You’re such a dolt! You cry about Vol fans gripping to the past, yet your entire post is nothing but that.

Yes, we’ve had a tough run. However, these losing streaks don’t compare to 20+ consecutive years of beat downs to your precious Commodores. So before you start talking ‘dominance’, you might want to gain perspective. A one year streak does not = dominance.

All good teams go through peaks and valleys. See Miami in the 80’s or Nebraska in the 90’s. The difference being that Vandy has never won long enough nor come close to seeing the field of a National Championship game or even an SEC title game to be lumped in to that category. Vandy has nowhere to look but up because they’ve ALWAYS been the designated SEC cellar dweller.

And maybe we do talk a lot during June and July because we’re excited about the upcoming season. I suppose that’s shocking to a Vandy fan seeing how they have historically never been able to do that. They didn’t show up to games to watch football, but rather show up to games to tailgate and rub shoulders with the other socialites… football was an afterthought.

And our ‘proclaimed’ (since I know you’re in love with that word) 6th choice for head coach is currently out-recruiting your ‘proclaimed’ new marshal.

Enjoy your brief fluke in football success. Once your ‘proclaimed’ marshal takes another coaching job, you will quickly resume your rightful place at the bottom of the SEC.

Yank ‘er down!

Written on Tennessee/Missouri matchup could be pivotal as both schools eye a turnaround :

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Bwahahaha!! A 1 game winning streak and your already talking 'dominance'??? Bwahahaha!! I guess Franklin is the new marshal seeing how he has 4 future convicts to manage now.

Vandy fans make me laugh.

Yank 'er down!

Written on SEC Media Days notebook: Jeff Driskel thinking football first; Ole Miss tries to manage expectations, tough opener :

in response to MetroplexMojo:

I know this will be unpopular on here but I liked a couple of things that Muschump said yesterday. I liked the shot at Ohio State and I liked how he said coaches are responsible for the actions of their players. He may not be as successful as Meyer was down there but I give him credit for not being afraid of Saban like Meyer was. Unlike Meyer, Muschump has proved he will discipline a player with off the field issues.

I also liked his jab at Ohio State. Could make for an interesting game if those teams ever meet up.

Written on SEC Media Days notebook: Jeff Driskel thinking football first; Ole Miss tries to manage expectations, tough opener :

in response to 8inarow:

Not sure why it would come back to haunt Muschamp, sounds like he, unlike most coaches, is taking responsibility for his players/program.

As far as tattoos on Gainesville women, this cannot happen at UT, because you are not allowed to put tattoos on whales. They are a protected species.

Please!! Any coach would say that in front of the media. Would you ever honestly see a coach address the media after a player gets into trouble with “well, it’s not my problem… I didn’t tell him to do that”?!? Uhhh… no. Muschamp is not special for claiming responsibility for his players/program.

Written on 5 things to know about SEC Media Days:

... and #7: Les Miles will certainly say or do something stupid, as per usual.

Written on Mike Strange: Will SEC have Tennessee to kick around again?:

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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The whole ‘riding Kelly’s coattails’ doesn’t really cut it. When Jones came to Cinci following Kelly, he had to replace all of Kelly’s top performers. With the amount of production he lost, his first season wasn’t great… only going 4-8. However, the 2011 season he went 10-3 (capping the season with a win over your precious Commodores) and followed that up in 2012 with a 9-3 record.

While we get to discuss football at SEC Media Days and our top rated recruiting class, it appears your ‘proclaimed’ (since that seems to be your favorite word) real coach will be dodging questions pertaining to your new crop of thugs.

Yank ‘er down!

Written on Mike Strange: For John Adams, a Hall of Fame sportswriting career started early:

Sounds like Strange is sucking up for a raise.

Written on Former Florida, New England star Aaron Hernandez painted as gunman by documents:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

That doesn't mean you should reward bad behavior by allowing thugs exposure for future NFL deals. Hernandez reminds me of a parolee that got out and killed, but while he was incarcerated he was well behaved. That's basically all his time at UF amounted to, he was evading detection while hiding under the alias of the student-athlete.

Don't disagree at all. However, who says he was 'evading detection' while at UF?! There's a difference between evading detection vs. 'not getting caught'. He may have been every bit as wreckless at UF but was lucky enough not to get caught for anything beyond drug/assault charges. I don't think this is the type of person who 'hides'... he's a gambler and rolled the dice once too many.

Written on Former Florida, New England star Aaron Hernandez painted as gunman by documents:

in response to MetroplexMojo:

Fear,

Very good points and I do not dispute anything you are saying. Just a couple of items to think through....

You brought up gangs and there is a ton of violence attributable to them. Who is at fault for the violence? Is it 100% the fault of the gang members? Or does some of the blame shift because the kids have received no discipline from absentee parents and have not been held accountable for their actions by the people in charge?

Here's another hypothetical. Let's say you ran a business and you hired a troubled, yet talented, employee. This employee routinely broke the law and violated company policy but you kept him because he delivered great results. You dismissed lesser employees for committing fewer violations. The talented employee played by a different set of rules, was rarely disciplined for his actions and you went to lengths to cover up what he did. Let's say this employee moved to another state and you vouched for this employee. Would you feel a bit responsible when this employee moves onto committing bigger crimes?

Regarding your first hypothetical – I can’t really support that line of thinking. There’s only so much of the ‘blame my absent daddy’ syndrome I can stomach before you need to start becoming accountable for your own decisions. It’s a common problem in society these days… always trying to find someone else to blame. I’m not suggesting those scenarios are easy to deal with growing up, but there are plenty of adults out there who had similar situations and chose to use those negatives to help mold them into something positive. He made the (alleged) decision to kill someone… not his parents. Plus, there are more than a couple of instances when mass murderers were brought up in normal households. Sometimes people’s minds are just wired differently.

Regarding the second hypothetical – Yes… I would feel responsible because I take pride in my endorsements. If my endorsement goes South, not only do I feel bad for the problem it caused, but it also damages my credibility going forward. Maybe Meyer doesn’t feel the same way and he will insist on diverting blame/attention elsewhere, but I can guarantee you this… no NFL team will EVER trust an endorsement from him regarding a ‘sketchy’ player ever again. His reputation as a shady coach is well documented… this is only offers additional validation.

Bottom line – regardless of parental involvement or Meyer’s blatant oversight, Hernandez made the decision and now needs to live out the consequences of that decision. If it wasn’t Lloyd, it would almost certainly be someone else… it’s just the kind of person he is.

Written on Former Florida, New England star Aaron Hernandez painted as gunman by documents:

in response to MetroplexMojo:

If Meyer and the other coaches had held Hernandez accountable for his actions at Florida, would Odin Lloyd be dead since Hernandez thought he could allegedly get away with murder?

As much as I don’t condone Meyer’s ‘circle of trust’ approach to managing disciplinary issues, I don’t think it would have made a huge difference in this case. He’s long been suspected of having gang connections, so even if he got booted from school, never made it to the NFL and had no association with Lloyd, it’s highly likely his rage and gang ties would have simply led to someone else’s demise instead. It’s pretty obvious that violence has always been part of his DNA.

Written on Wide receiver Ryan Jenkins eager to join Vols:

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Funny you should say that when every one of your "UT/Doolander/6th choice for head coach" posts are a copy and paste job. I would have thought that your overpriced Vandy education would have taught you more originality. You may want to ask for a refund.

Written on Wide receiver Ryan Jenkins eager to join Vols:

in response to Crafty_Commodore_4118:

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Vandy fans talking trash is like Hernandez teaching classes in morality.

Come back when Vandy has won an SEC title... or at least made it to the SEC title game. Well... maybe that's not fair, cause then we'll never see you again.

Written on Florida QB Driskel signs with Red Sox:

in response to abnerPeabody:

What's in your wallet? Were you drafted in anything and have you been a starting QB in college? Were you even drafted as a pee wee? People like you give all Vols a bad name just as 9 is a swine has done for Florida.

Take a Valium and save the morality lesson for bible study. This is a UT sports forum, not a church support group.

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