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I'm not sure how Clark is allowed to retain his job. UT Track and Field has a long-standing tradition of excellence. It has been turned into a joke.
Coaches change, and so do their strength requirements. How many strength coaches has football been through? This is no different. Sorry, can't play the gender card here.
Until any of the facts come out anything posted in this thread is mere speculation.
Being placed on Administrative Leave and not retained is generally because there was some kind of misconduct occurring. That is the pattern that was followed with John Trembley's dismissal. Not saying that is true in this case, but we'll let the facts come out before jumping one way or another.
He should at the least have been suspended on February 19.
Left out of the story: "Then Calipari went back into his office and gave the players their weekly salary checks."
First and foremost, the Vols have to keep the best players in the state. Then and only then they can augment with top kids in Carolina and Georgia.
Scared coach is scared.
His staffs have produced 4 conference championships in 6 years. History would say he knows how to assemble a staff.
in response to voodoo101: Careful, that's asking a lot of the W/L crowd. Although winning and losing does seem to be the only thing they understand.
in response to voodoo101:
Careful, that's asking a lot of the W/L crowd. Although winning and losing does seem to be the only thing they understand.
Last time I checked they still have scoreboards at all the games. This isn't pee-wee football where everyone gets a trophy. If your peers are beating you then you have to do something to keep up with them.
Prairie View A&M would keep this defense on their toes.
I give them a 50-50 shot against Tennessee simply because Dooley will either be a lame duck or already have been fired at that point.
I have issues with Debby Jennings drawing Pat into this situation unnecessarily. If she really had Pat's best interests in mind she would not have drawn her into a suit has has nothing to do with her.
Change is hard, especially when you've been somewhere for 35 years and have never been anywhere else. Sadly, Debby has tarnished her own reputation by this campaign of muckraking.
Sadly I think this is a case of an individual being isolated at an institution for too long and losing perspective of how the 'real world' works.
Right or wrong, in most cases a boss has the ability to let employees go at will. In this case there was clearly a massive consolidation and restructuring of the department underway. If the CEO, in this case Hart, decided that some higher-level positions needed to go in order for the department to be streamlined then so be it.
No one likes to lose their job, particularly if they've been there 30+ years. It hurts, it's scary and change is really hard sometimes.
But that doesn't make it illegal to do so by the letter of the law. I don't know the exact particulars of this case but it seems at least one side is intent on playing out the case through the media. From my experience that usually indicates that side is concerned about the validity of their case.
This is a hard case to prove. The offended party must prove intentional and willful retaliation and discrimination. Judging from the outcomes of the other discrimination cases (that BTW were brought long before Hart was even hired) it will be difficult to prevail.
At first it was recruiting, but now there's enough talent to be competitive. Now it comes down to coaching and here's yet another area where it appears UT is 'learning on the job.'
I said coming into this season the D would be the area of concern - you can't change schemes overnight. It takes longer than a Spring and Pre-Season to implement a change in defensive schemes.
UT will get better as the season goes along, but the problem is they're facing the meat of their schedule starting next week.
0-11 vs ranked teams and 0-18 as a HC?
Is there really anyone who seriously thinks Dooley can resurrect Tennessee?
Story about Derrick Brodus, so you post a picture of Michael Palardy (whose name is not mentioned)... then label it as a punt when its clearly a kickoff (notice the tee).
Anyone who's under the impression that UT could afford to replace Derek Dooley this year is sorely mistaken. He's here for at least another year, regardless of what happens on the field.
Curtailing scalpers won't make up the $4M deficit. The theory that if they reduce scalper activity people will have to pay full price for tickets from the University is flawed.
The ONLY way to increase ticket revenue is to increase success on the field. Period.
Scalpers aren't the issue. I remember a time where it was near impossible to get a ticket, even with scalpers right next to the stadium. That's because they had no tickets because anyone with tickets wanted to go to the game!
Note to UTAD: Win more games. That will cure any ills or revenue problems.
The wildcard in this game that no one seems to want to mention - the defense. It takes more than a Spring and pre-season to learn a new scheme. There will be mistakes in the first game. The only question is whether those mistakes can be overcome.
I believe UT will win, but barely, and would not be surprised to see NCSU ahead for most of the game.
Explain how a team with a 0-1-1 record (VCU) can be "coming off a 3-0 victory?"
UT should have jettisoned him long ago.
Dooley has really backed himself into a corner on this one. To put it another way, if Dooley coached at LSU, Honey Badger would still be on the team.
Please let this be the last we hear of this guy in the Sports section. I suspect he'll end up in the crime blotter soon enough.
Of all that is wrong with collegiate athletics today, this is a shining example of the way it should be done.
We hear a lot of things about how athletics is out of control and out of whack (and at UT it can be argued it is), but this is a ray of hope that it can be saved.
Coming next: Charging you a 'pedestrian' fee to walk through campus to the game.
No one is making people pay for the tailgating service and I'm guessing corporations will be all over this but this does smack as simply another money grab for UTAD (which in actuality, it is.)
Things truly are out of whack when something like this is put up on a campus that has raised its tuition 20 percent in the last two years.
UT football should have a good facility but this is excessive, bordering on obscene.
in response to b24vol: Didn't see word east...there is regular season champ and sec tourn. champ
in response to b24vol:
Didn't see word east...there is regular season champ and sec tourn. champ
Look at the actual document, Appendix A
Why is there still an incentive for SEC "EAST" championship? There are no more divisions for basketball. Figured they would have updated this.
Anyone who debates that Martin didn't do a good job coaching this bunch is just silly.
There's a lot you can argue with, but the fact that Martin got this squad (picked last by many) to finish second in the SEC is indication enough that coaching wasn't the issue.
This is gender equity - in reverse.
Elzy was hired in at a higher salary. The men had to make an adjustment to bring their similar position up to that of the women.
I think this was a unique situation brought on by Pat's retirement and new Women's BB staff. Webster should walk directly next door to Kyra Elzy and say 'THANKS.'
A worthy honor, certainly, but does anyone else think this entire 'naming' thing (not just PHS) is getting entirely out of hand?
It is one thing to be honored and recognized by your peers (which again, PHS is certainly worthy of). It is another to use naming as a political tool to make someone or some constituency feel better about themselves.
The good news - only really one of these years can be pinned on Dooley.
Much room to improve, not much room to get worse, but not showing improvement will be a much bigger deal at this time next year especially if the team flounders on the field.
Now, if there was an APR for coaching retention UT would REALLY be in trouble.
The executive salaries are not out of line at all with similar institutions in the SEC.
Take those 8-10 away and the vast majority of individuals in the AD are underpaid according to job function, but probably in line with similar salaries at higher education institutions.
For those railing against Hart have you taken a look at what the Alabama AD did this year? Guess who had a hand in that?
It's BRIAN Pensky, not Mark.
News flash: If you flunk out of school you can't play on the football team (except at the U. of Alabama).
If Pat had made this signing everyone on here would be saying she can help the team, etc. But because Holly made the signing people are automatically dissing the signing? Don't get it.
I don't profess to know what happened here, but culture change is often very hard. The women's department has been completely separate and autonomous forever. Folding them into the umbrella of the Men's department was bound to ruffle more than a few feathers. Change is a difficult thing and it's my guess that they tried to have her do things she wasn't comfortable doing, and she responded in kind.
So the truth as usual probably lies somewhere in the middle - Hart would have preferred Jennings be a part of his 'streamlining' and she wanted to continue on as normal. Both have strong personalities and obviously things went south from there.
Someone help me out here - Tennessee is an 'at-will' state, correct? Which means the employer can fire anyone for any reason, good or bad, as long as it's not discriminatory or retaliatory.
Hart definitely needed to clean house, but he is also under obligation to do it properly and legally.
'Insubordination' is a pretty vague designation and incredibly difficult to defend against. Someone's not telling the truth, just not sure who . . .
He should be kicked off immediately. Not doing so will just create a huge mess for Dooley down the road.
AlexAnderson you seem to have an agenda . . .
I don't know the kid and haven't seen him play. That being said I do believe that UT has the right baseball coach and staff finally. There are obviously going to be some very hard decisions made this off season and more than a few hurt feelings. Serrano has basically said as much.
Whether it was Serrano's decision or the kid's, I wish him the best of luck and the best for the Tennessee program.
in response to AlexAndersonAAradio: Too bad. He was my favorite player. At one point he had 7 straight at bats with either a hit or an rbi. I guess coach didn't think he was good enough but he was real good in the games I watched him play.
in response to AlexAndersonAAradio:
Too bad. He was my favorite player. At one point he had 7 straight at bats with either a hit or an rbi. I guess coach didn't think he was good enough but he was real good in the games I watched him play.
He had 2 RBI and one hit. There's no conceivable way he had "seven straight at bats with either a hit or an RBI."
That fallacy aside, sounds like Serrano didn't like the way the season went at all. Better to jettison guys who wouldn't play to make room for other talent.
The hard truth is hitting the program - there aren't many SEC-caliber players at Tennessee right now. Serrano coached them well in the first half of the season but now that the grind has hit we see the real true character of this squad. He needs to jettison much of the dead weight and get some of his own signees in - only then will things really truly start to turn around.
The stench that was Todd Raleigh (thanks, MH!) will take a while to dissipate.
Clock is ticking on Clark.
Well deserved. Hopefully she can use the platform as Jim Valvano did to bring more awareness to this disease.
Holly's two hires are outstanding recruiters. I seriously doubt talent will be an issue at UT.
I'm expecting an upgrade at the Head Coach position.
And so it goes. This team was always going to have a hard time as the grind of the season wore on. Serrano needs more horses to get it done consistently. I don't doubt he will be successful, he just needs to work through much of the funk that still lingers from thae Raleigh era.
Nice hire. Wish Holly and staff nothing but the best.
This is nothing more than Doug Matthews making this stuff up in order to get some chatter for his very good buddy, Phil Fulmer.
Arkansas no more contacted Fulmer than they did the Easter Bunny (who by the way just finished "working like heck").
in response to TheAnswer39: I am now boycotting the Lady Vols and possibly the entire athletic program over the hiring of Holly Warlick.... It is truly a SAD day in TENNESSEE athletics as not only have we LOST A LEGEND IN PAT but hired a coach who couldn't get to the FINAL FOUR with 4 WNBA draft picks on their roster over the past 4 years!! SAD SAD SAD day to be a booster and fan of the VOLunteer athletic program!!!
in response to TheAnswer39:
I am now boycotting the Lady Vols and possibly the entire athletic program over the hiring of Holly Warlick....
It is truly a SAD day in TENNESSEE athletics as not only have we LOST A LEGEND IN PAT but hired a coach who couldn't get to the FINAL FOUR with 4 WNBA draft picks on their roster over the past 4 years!! SAD SAD SAD day to be a booster and fan of the VOLunteer athletic program!!!
I will speak for the rest of the Vol Nation by saying thank you for voluntarily removing yourself from our ranks. This is truly addition by subtraction.
Sad, but the necessary step. Best of luck to Holly!
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