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in response to antonio14313: nail on the head! we root for the orange and white. the names on the front of the jersey (figuratively, since there's no name on the front). sometimes even the names on the back of the jersey. we certainly cheer for that beautiful letter on the helmet!!! T. unconditionally... go vols. t
in response to antonio14313:
nail on the head!
we root for the orange and white. the names on the front of the jersey (figuratively, since there's no name on the front). sometimes even the names on the back of the jersey. we certainly cheer for that beautiful letter on the helmet!!! T. unconditionally...
go vols.
t
Yes, yes we do ... unconditionally. Well said.
GVX is defined as a Tennessee Volunteer fan site. Yet when a fan comes on here voicing basic positive support for the Vols, the fan is called vulgar names and subjected to defamation and abuse. What a shame.
in response to ctwins: Check out al.com/al fb for an interview with the Bryant kid. Get the true story behind his decision in his own words.
in response to ctwins:
Check out al.com/al fb for an interview with the Bryant kid. Get the true story behind his decision in his own words.
Thanks! Good read...
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: We lost Lee that 3* WR from Florida, but we picked up that RB from Florida that really fills a need. I also like UT's chances for Bates and that 4* WR from the Mid West i believe. Gaulden, was he also considering Vandy?? Anyway, UT's killing the recruiting trail right now and it looks as if the 2015 class will be filled by NSD 2014...GBO!
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:
We lost Lee that 3* WR from Florida, but we picked up that RB from Florida that really fills a need. I also like UT's chances for Bates and that 4* WR from the Mid West i believe. Gaulden, was he also considering Vandy?? Anyway, UT's killing the recruiting trail right now and it looks as if the 2015 class will be filled by NSD 2014...GBO!
Some believe that Lee got over-recruited by Powell and "walked" or was encouraged to walk. Yes, Gaulden was considering Vandy.
If Coach Butch pulls a few surprises on the field this year, and I think he will, you're probably right. The 2015 class will be filled by NSD 2014!
It's great ... to be ... a Tennessee Vol!
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: UT just got another commit: 4* LB from Alabama, Gavin Bryant..Things are really looking up in Knoxville.
UT just got another commit: 4* LB from Alabama, Gavin Bryant..Things are really looking up in Knoxville.
I saw that! The longer it goes, the better it gets!
There are also rumors that a 4* safety Gaulden from N'ville is getting read to commit. And Bates is also leaning.
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: NSD is 8 months away, but somehow you have us lead pipe cinched as a top 5....? What was it you said last year.... -Dooley was going to have a top 10 class -guaranteed--Dooley was doing it the right way-TN was going 12-0 and winning the NC-Dooley was going to be around for a long time, so get used to it-Sunseri was the General incarnate-7 coaches left cause they couldn't handle the SEC (or were in fact turned loose by Dools <- utter nonsense) Most humans have at least a hint of humility, apparently you have none, since you shovel more ---- than a thoroughbred farm!
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland:
NSD is 8 months away, but somehow you have us lead pipe cinched as a top 5....? What was it you said last year....
-Dooley was going to have a top 10 class -guaranteed--Dooley was doing it the right way-TN was going 12-0 and winning the NC-Dooley was going to be around for a long time, so get used to it-Sunseri was the General incarnate-7 coaches left cause they couldn't handle the SEC (or were in fact turned loose by Dools <- utter nonsense)
Most humans have at least a hint of humility, apparently you have none, since you shovel more ---- than a thoroughbred farm!
And most fans are honest and don't make things up and lay them off on other posters. But you continue to lie and exaggerate.
Go away kid! And ... grow up.
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: So says the kid who uses acronyms that would make the Gorton's fisherman blush. You have never refuted a thing on this board, much less offered a coherent thought to support anything posted by you, other than throwing "fact" around like you saying said word makes it such. Talk about a laugh, the pierrot who supposedly graduated in '65 (was that the school for the blind and deaf?) talks about defamatory remarks and that's all you make. All it takes is proving you wrong (on anything), and off you go.... Oh, the irony!
So says the kid who uses acronyms that would make the Gorton's fisherman blush. You have never refuted a thing on this board, much less offered a coherent thought to support anything posted by you, other than throwing "fact" around like you saying said word makes it such.
Talk about a laugh, the pierrot who supposedly graduated in '65 (was that the school for the blind and deaf?) talks about defamatory remarks and that's all you make. All it takes is proving you wrong (on anything), and off you go.... Oh, the irony!
Your usual unsubstantiated, off topic nonsense.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: That recruiting class for 2014 will be a major haul with the opportunity to sign 17 more athletes if they so choose. It's getting close to FTIT! GBO!
That recruiting class for 2014 will be a major haul with the opportunity to sign 17 more athletes if they so choose. It's getting close to FTIT! GBO!
Yup! They're going to come in here as a team and lead, push, and pull UT back to the top. Hope that all of us older Vols get the blessings necessary to hang around long enough to see it!
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: You must have Martina on repeat..... Would you care to put my record against yours... That would be a laugh..... Since I'm wrong, where is your refutal (backed up with coherence that would give anyone an indication that you even know what a football is and how long the field is... Much less any commentary on schemes, techniques, and W/L predictions...that path has been beaten down)?? Get lost, kid!
You must have Martina on repeat..... Would you care to put my record against yours... That would be a laugh..... Since I'm wrong, where is your refutal (backed up with coherence that would give anyone an indication that you even know what a football is and how long the field is... Much less any commentary on schemes, techniques, and W/L predictions...that path has been beaten down)?? Get lost, kid!
You have no record. You only post nonsense and defamatory remarks about other posters. The rest of us actually discuss and offer opinions ... without trashing each other. But not you...
Get out of here! Go away kid! And ... grow up.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Give-um-H, Gerry..I also think QB is one of the most critical positions to be filled. Regardless who gets the nod, they'll be like Matt Simms looking over his shoulder wondering if CBJ is going to bench him in favor of one of our talented freshmen.
Give-um-H, Gerry..I also think QB is one of the most critical positions to be filled. Regardless who gets the nod, they'll be like Matt Simms looking over his shoulder wondering if CBJ is going to bench him in favor of one of our talented freshmen.
I agree Bipolar, QB is the most critical spot we have right now. But with the four kids we have on the roster right now, if one of them can't do the job, I'll be shocked. Ummm, the QB at TAM was a freshman when he won the Heisman!
Now if we have a QB, next need is a receiver. Again, we have a bunch of frosh ready to catch balls!
I think our Vols are going to surprise a few people this year. I don't care what the GVX negaVol naysayers have to say!! I think Coach Butch will start sorting it out real quickly starting around August 1st!
And don't forget we have a Top 5 recruiting class ready to jump on board next year. That alone should drive the current team members to higher accomplishments.
in response to Olddogsrule: Have to agree that your posts are so full of inductive and deductive logical fallacies - ad hominem, straw man, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalency, etc, and etc. ad nauseum; that for yourself (and those who choose to read your drivel) it would serve you well to become informed on this topic and not unknowingly embarrass yourself. I know, we all do it, but you do so very often. Here are just two from your above rant. 1: See your statement about defensive schemes of, "when we've only ever ran two". This premise is not true because three obvious situations exist: a. 4-3 under HC1/DC1 b. 3-4 under HC1/DC2 c. 4-3 under HC2/DC3. All three cases are different; coaches for a & c will not run the same 4-3 scheme. So he was correct. 2. "If the the spring game is any indication ... (yada yada yada -another ad hominum, false analogy) ... we are a long way from resembling a team". Is "false equivalence" and "card stacking". Go look 'em up, ... and learn how to Think, EEyore. aw shucks -- your post is so full of so many logical fallacies that anything, and I mean anything you EVER post should be thought of as, 'nothing true here, move on".
in response to Olddogsrule:
Have to agree that your posts are so full of inductive and deductive logical fallacies - ad hominem, straw man, post hoc ergo propter hoc, false equivalency, etc, and etc. ad nauseum; that for yourself (and those who choose to read your drivel) it would serve you well to become informed on this topic and not unknowingly embarrass yourself. I know, we all do it, but you do so very often.
Here are just two from your above rant.
1: See your statement about defensive schemes of, "when we've only ever ran two". This premise is not true because three obvious situations exist: a. 4-3 under HC1/DC1 b. 3-4 under HC1/DC2 c. 4-3 under HC2/DC3. All three cases are different; coaches for a & c will not run the same 4-3 scheme. So he was correct.
2. "If the the spring game is any indication ... (yada yada yada -another ad hominum, false analogy) ... we are a long way from resembling a team". Is "false equivalence" and "card stacking". Go look 'em up, ... and learn how to Think, EEyore.
aw shucks -- your post is so full of so many logical fallacies that anything, and I mean anything you EVER post should be thought of as, 'nothing true here, move on".
Hey olddog, you have it right. It's a waste of time. I started going through this kid's post and flagging inaccuracies and falsities and gave up. I have better things to do with my life. I think he is a kid who thinks he knows everything about football but really knows very little. He's fun to challenge every so often, but after a while he becomes a boor with his nonsense.
But anyway, thanks for taking a shot at him. As we know, his responses are really less than worthless.
BTW, how old is an olddog? I graduated from UT in 1965.
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: In the words of Martina McBride -WRONG AGAIN-!! How does it feel to get continually schooled by a "10-12" year old who has actually set foot in a classroom and graduated from UT? Envy is considered one of the 7 deadly sins, ya know (along with lust [-whatshisname- come to mind?]).....
In the words of Martina McBride -WRONG AGAIN-!!
How does it feel to get continually schooled by a "10-12" year old who has actually set foot in a classroom and graduated from UT? Envy is considered one of the 7 deadly sins, ya know (along with lust [-whatshisname- come to mind?]).....
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Get some professional help and grow up.
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: It's pretty clear that your issue is hanging out at the local donut shop (ya know, you love sugar coating), eating rainbow stew, and singing Kumbaya, all while quaffing 200 proof Doolaid and wearing blinders so dark that the sun can't even penetrate its tint! BTW, kid? Pffft.... You're as lost a fart in a whirlwind!! This coming from the same kid, who exclaimed from high atop Mt. Guyot, that he has woven a silk purse from a sow's ear. You have accomplished one feat, -always being wrong about anything and everything-!
It's pretty clear that your issue is hanging out at the local donut shop (ya know, you love sugar coating), eating rainbow stew, and singing Kumbaya, all while quaffing 200 proof Doolaid and wearing blinders so dark that the sun can't even penetrate its tint!
BTW, kid? Pffft.... You're as lost a fart in a whirlwind!! This coming from the same kid, who exclaimed from high atop Mt. Guyot, that he has woven a silk purse from a sow's ear. You have accomplished one feat, -always being wrong about anything and everything-!
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in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: So, you went from clamoring the "de facto truth", to saying you don't know....? You've never known anything about anything (esp. TN football)! You were one of the ones saying Graham was here cause he wanted to be, he's a VFL (which any utterances of this should die), etc., now, you're saying Gillespie is the "impact" coach that's going to have Devrin Young in contention for the Heisman.....? Here, have another drink.... Futhermore, a third approach/scheme on defense? There are 3 schemes (bases) that are used...the common two are the 4-3 and 3-4 (but some run a 5-2, like VA Tech)...Ask yourself, -self-, how are we running 3 different schemes when we've only ever ran two (-EVER-...not just for the ones that are currently there)? I can push this even futher..? If the spring game is any indication (which nothing is an indication to someone who wears full blinders, the color is impertinent), we are about what people think we are -a long way from resembling a team that is an SEC contender-!!
So, you went from clamoring the "de facto truth", to saying you don't know....? You've never known anything about anything (esp. TN football)!
You were one of the ones saying Graham was here cause he wanted to be, he's a VFL (which any utterances of this should die), etc., now, you're saying Gillespie is the "impact" coach that's going to have Devrin Young in contention for the Heisman.....? Here, have another drink....
Futhermore, a third approach/scheme on defense? There are 3 schemes (bases) that are used...the common two are the 4-3 and 3-4 (but some run a 5-2, like VA Tech)...Ask yourself, -self-, how are we running 3 different schemes when we've only ever ran two (-EVER-...not just for the ones that are currently there)? I can push this even futher..?
If the spring game is any indication (which nothing is an indication to someone who wears full blinders, the color is impertinent), we are about what people think we are -a long way from resembling a team that is an SEC contender-!!
in response to powellvol82: I see a lot of posters come on here and ask why a turd fan is posting on a UT website. Maybe you should begin by growing a pair and answering why you do come on here
in response to powellvol82:
I see a lot of posters come on here and ask why a turd fan is posting on a UT website. Maybe you should begin by growing a pair and answering why you do come on here
Lil' ZZGataBoy has been lurking around here for several years. He's kind of our pet troll. His posts are usually non-sensical but harmless.
I tried to hook up with him one year in Benny Hill at halftime. Once I found the seating location where he said he would be, the 3rd level in west end, all I found was an empty seat and a little green blow up Gata!
Which position on Tennessee's offense am I most concerned about next season? Don't know yet. Why? We have some pretty good recruits coming in. Surely a few of them can contribute.
Running Backs? We have several returning. With our OL and a different RB coaching emphasis, we may have some talent there.
QB and Receiver? One thing we do know is that much will depend on our recruiting/xfer class. A lot of QB and Rcvr *s could have some pretty good results. Let's check back on Sept 1!
Real concern? DEFENSE! With a 3rd approach/scheme in three years, who knows?
A lot of predictions on a dismal year are based on last year's team. New coaches, a new philosophy/attitude, and 20-some new players could make '12 simply a bad memory. I think we're better than many predict.
in response to GeauxTeamScribe: This comment may be inappropriate. Reveal this comment. Tennessee's offensive line is merely an aberration mired in an swamp of ineptitude. It's not wasted in this article that while UT's offensive line "might" grade out better than Alabama's or Oregon's, there is only a marginal difference. Combine that with the unquestioned fact that UT has so little talent at any other positions, and the Bama and Oregon blowouts of the Voles may as well be etched in stone, as well as expected losses to all SEC opponents with the possible exception of Kentucky. When you add into the mix an overhyped head coach, Jones, with zero experience, outside winning a few games in minor leagues with Brian Kelly's players, and it's pretty clear that a balanced and well coached Vandy, under James Franklin, have a decade of dominance to look forward to over the Voles.
in response to GeauxTeamScribe:
This comment may be inappropriate. Reveal this comment.
Tennessee's offensive line is merely an aberration mired in an swamp of ineptitude. It's not wasted in this article that while UT's offensive line "might" grade out better than Alabama's or Oregon's, there is only a marginal difference. Combine that with the unquestioned fact that UT has so little talent at any other positions, and the Bama and Oregon blowouts of the Voles may as well be etched in stone, as well as expected losses to all SEC opponents with the possible exception of Kentucky. When you add into the mix an overhyped head coach, Jones, with zero experience, outside winning a few games in minor leagues with Brian Kelly's players, and it's pretty clear that a balanced and well coached Vandy, under James Franklin, have a decade of dominance to look forward to over the Voles.
Why do you even waste your time entering this junk? It's just hateful trash and usually utter nonsense with no facts backing anything up. What a waste.
in response to GeauxTeamScribe: For those who actually know something and are unencumbered by the fantasies one must cling to in order to live in the Vole unreality bubble, it's not wasted on us that neither Doolander or Jones ever served as a coordinator at a major college level. Essentially, all they brought were highly questionable resumes from marginal and minor programs at best. When you compare this to both James Franklin and Mark Stoops, who came equipped with the necessary prerequisites, it spells nothing but trouble for UT. Of course, Franklin obliterated Doolander, and there's no question that Jones and his staff don't even approach Franklin's league. Now, Stoops is sitting pretty with Rivals #3 recruiting class at UK and with his superior credentials will almost certainly eclipse Jones and UT in short order. Facts are facts, and just because an incompetent search left UT paying 18 million for a Kmart Blue Light Special, your 7th choice, doesn't mean you have a coach, quite the contrary. Vandy has already blown by the Voles in the East, and with Stoops the Cats most likely will too. A permanent 6th or 7th in the East, just like the last two years, is about all a realistic perspective will allow. Expecting anything else will only produce Voles-in-tears. Sorry, but the truth is the truth. You should have learned that with all the ridiculous Doolander talk.
For those who actually know something and are unencumbered by the fantasies one must cling to in order to live in the Vole unreality bubble, it's not wasted on us that neither Doolander or Jones ever served as a coordinator at a major college level. Essentially, all they brought were highly questionable resumes from marginal and minor programs at best. When you compare this to both James Franklin and Mark Stoops, who came equipped with the necessary prerequisites, it spells nothing but trouble for UT. Of course, Franklin obliterated Doolander, and there's no question that Jones and his staff don't even approach Franklin's league. Now, Stoops is sitting pretty with Rivals #3 recruiting class at UK and with his superior credentials will almost certainly eclipse Jones and UT in short order.
Facts are facts, and just because an incompetent search left UT paying 18 million for a Kmart Blue Light Special, your 7th choice, doesn't mean you have a coach, quite the contrary. Vandy has already blown by the Voles in the East, and with Stoops the Cats most likely will too. A permanent 6th or 7th in the East, just like the last two years, is about all a realistic perspective will allow.
Expecting anything else will only produce Voles-in-tears. Sorry, but the truth is the truth. You should have learned that with all the ridiculous Doolander talk.
Rather than looking at DC/OC experience, you might want to consider HC records when hired:
Franklin - 0-0Stoops - 0-0Jones - 57-27
For those who know nothing about college football and are enjoying the fantasies living in the Vol's current unreality bubble, your gloating days are about over. You're bragging because UT gave VU and UK victories during our down years. And may do the same this year. Go ahead and brag and trash the Vols while you can.
Franklin? If he doesn't win anything again this year, or wins a lot, he'll be gone. Mark Stoops? No one knows what he can do as HC, he's never been one. He could be the next Derek Dooley!
in response to shiftb: You keep saying no one wanted this job. That is simply false. Kevin Sumlin wanted this job. Jones wanted this job. You can't ever move a program forward unless you tell the truth. Our former coach was not a good man. He was a complete fraud. He lied every step of the way and blamed everyone but himself for his failures. Your side told us LSU was dying to have him for an assistant. You told us La. Tech absolutely was heartbroken when they lost him. He got fired and neither one of those schools wanted anything to do with him. We are here to bring this program back to championship glory. Wishing on a star and rubbing a rabbit's foot is not going to cut it.
in response to shiftb:
You keep saying no one wanted this job. That is simply false. Kevin Sumlin wanted this job. Jones wanted this job. You can't ever move a program forward unless you tell the truth.
Our former coach was not a good man. He was a complete fraud. He lied every step of the way and blamed everyone but himself for his failures. Your side told us LSU was dying to have him for an assistant. You told us La. Tech absolutely was heartbroken when they lost him. He got fired and neither one of those schools wanted anything to do with him. We are here to bring this program back to championship glory. Wishing on a star and rubbing a rabbit's foot is not going to cut it.
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in response to VolYork45: Dooley defeated Franklin in 2010 AND 2011, making that two(2) wins. In regards to 2011, beating a rival is beating a rival. And I think most of that exuberance was the fact that Tennessee finally had a break go their way. Before you start wishing I'm some Dooley-lover, know that i'm not. I did support the guy for most of his tenure because he was the HC. Real fans respect their team, and pull for whoever the guy is, even if they don't agree with him. I'm beyond glad Dooley is gone, but I have to respect that he took a job that no one else was willing to risk taking. I know what he said about Coordinators, but there are more relevant coaches than just the two aforementioned coordinators. I don't know about you, but I prefer cotton and polyester to wool, I don't much enjoy spinning, and I don't get drunk, because I'm not some uneducated, lifeless troll like yourself. Just a guy who loves his school, but also has to be real because of his profession. Go Vols
in response to VolYork45:
Dooley defeated Franklin in 2010 AND 2011, making that two(2) wins. In regards to 2011, beating a rival is beating a rival. And I think most of that exuberance was the fact that Tennessee finally had a break go their way. Before you start wishing I'm some Dooley-lover, know that i'm not. I did support the guy for most of his tenure because he was the HC. Real fans respect their team, and pull for whoever the guy is, even if they don't agree with him. I'm beyond glad Dooley is gone, but I have to respect that he took a job that no one else was willing to risk taking. I know what he said about Coordinators, but there are more relevant coaches than just the two aforementioned coordinators. I don't know about you, but I prefer cotton and polyester to wool, I don't much enjoy spinning, and I don't get drunk, because I'm not some uneducated, lifeless troll like yourself. Just a guy who loves his school, but also has to be real because of his profession. Go Vols
"Real fans respect their team, and pull for whoever the guy is (as head coach), even if they don't agree with him."
Well said.
Everybody grab a stone and throw it at our Vols. They're down now but they're getting back up. Take your shot now! In a couple of years it will be too late... They'll be back standing tall.
It's great... to be... a Tennesse Vol!
Did you guys even read the column? What's the matter, too many words more than 5 letters long?
Adams stated the problem, described what is being done to solve it, and then tossed in a few words blaming some of the guys who caused the problem. I thought it was a pretty good article! What's the problem?
It's not surprising that 4 head coaches in 6 years has caused pretty extreme instabilities in the program. But, the past is the past and it can't be changed. So, let's look ahead and stop dwelling on the past.
Coach Jones is now here and he seems to be doing the right things. So let's move forward. He has his own guy in at Thornton and the initial results look pretty good. 80 days until kickoff and then we'll see how Coach Jones does inside of Neyland. I think he can get things turned around. Let's all support him and see what happens.
Never forget ... keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Nick, welcome to Tennessee!
in response to shiftb: I think that put the capper on the tenure of the coach who doesn't deserve to be mentioned in one of my glorious posts. NO COACHING, NO RECRUITING, NO ACADEMIC SUCCESS, NO NOTHING! So much for Cheeks and Hart turning over a new leaf at UT. Unmitigated frauds, both of them. I see Hart has hired a "fall" guy to blame when the academic standards aren't up to snuff. Typical tyrant behavior. Hopefully the upcoming lawsuits will enable us to get rid of both of them.
I think that put the capper on the tenure of the coach who doesn't deserve to be mentioned in one of my glorious posts. NO COACHING, NO RECRUITING, NO ACADEMIC SUCCESS, NO NOTHING!
So much for Cheeks and Hart turning over a new leaf at UT. Unmitigated frauds, both of them. I see Hart has hired a "fall" guy to blame when the academic standards aren't up to snuff. Typical tyrant behavior. Hopefully the upcoming lawsuits will enable us to get rid of both of them.
Just keep on hating and trashing. Calling someone a "fraud" is scandalous if not libelous. When you grow up you might suffer the liabilities of making such accusations.
BTW, don't use "us" in discussing matters of the Vols. You are not a Vol fan.
in response to shiftb: No statement could be as false as " the coach who deserves to remain nameless will be here for at least 2 more years and probably a long time after that". - signed your down with opp
No statement could be as false as " the coach who deserves to remain nameless will be here for at least 2 more years and probably a long time after that". - signed your down with opp
Kid, pay attention. We were talking about your claim that this will be the LEAST talented UT team to take the field in lifetime. Unless you are only two or three years old, that is just nonsense.
Really kid, come back when you grow up ... and stick to the topic of discussion.
in response to dragon18: You're kind of a weird guy actually? How do you get fame off of a freaking message board? And touting your elite athlete status when no one can verify that really doesn't count. My guess is you're a legend in your own mind.
in response to dragon18:
You're kind of a weird guy actually? How do you get fame off of a freaking message board? And touting your elite athlete status when no one can verify that really doesn't count. My guess is you're a legend in your own mind.
His "fame" is based on the fact that he holds the record for the number of times of being kicked off of a message board. And he keeps on making up new screen names and he keeps on coming back.
in response to shiftb: This will be the LEAST talented UT team to take the field in my lifetime thanks to you know who. We will have to be extremely fundamentally sound this year to compete since we have NO GAME CHANGERS on either side of the ball. I hope coach Jones knows what he is doing. Even then, i am not expecting too much.
This will be the LEAST talented UT team to take the field in my lifetime thanks to you know who. We will have to be extremely fundamentally sound this year to compete since we have NO GAME CHANGERS on either side of the ball. I hope coach Jones knows what he is doing. Even then, i am not expecting too much.
Why do you keep on making this stuff up? Your claim is absolutely false and everyone knows that.
Really kid, come back when you grow up.
in response to shiftb: If we reduce the posters to just those who don't get the best of you, there will only be one person that visits this site.
If we reduce the posters to just those who don't get the best of you, there will only be one person that visits this site.
You continue to prove your own ignorance, incompetence, and irrelavance.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Hamilton was a great fund raiser and businessman. But, he was a horrid AD, not only did he not know diddly about hiring fb coaches, he allowed Jimmy Cheek to milk athletic budget funds for other departments. He was too nice to Kiffin also. Hamilton should have offered Orgeron the HC the minute he heard Kiffin was USC bound, that would have at least split LK's coaching staff and salvaged a decent recruiting class as well as pacify recruits already playing for UT.
Hamilton was a great fund raiser and businessman. But, he was a horrid AD, not only did he not know diddly about hiring fb coaches, he allowed Jimmy Cheek to milk athletic budget funds for other departments. He was too nice to Kiffin also. Hamilton should have offered Orgeron the HC the minute he heard Kiffin was USC bound, that would have at least split LK's coaching staff and salvaged a decent recruiting class as well as pacify recruits already playing for UT.
Hmmmm? Offer Orgeron? Do you think he would have accepted? Interesting! That might have eased the problem of the 8 kids who came to play for Kiffin.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: I wouldn't want Cutcliffe or Brown long term, but when both were snubbed for Dooley that opened the flood gates for transfers/attrition. Putting the fb program even further behind the 8 ball than the Kiffin departure did. For the record, I wanted Brian Kelly before the Kiffin hire, and right now that looks like a solid choice.
I wouldn't want Cutcliffe or Brown long term, but when both were snubbed for Dooley that opened the flood gates for transfers/attrition. Putting the fb program even further behind the 8 ball than the Kiffin departure did. For the record, I wanted Brian Kelly before the Kiffin hire, and right now that looks like a solid choice.
Kelly probably would have been a good choice. I think the real problem was Hamilton. A good business man, but weak in talking to potential head coaches.
in response to shiftb: Hire Kippy Brown as interim coach while you go for your dream candidate, ala Ohio State. How many times do i have to repeat myself?
Hire Kippy Brown as interim coach while you go for your dream candidate, ala Ohio State. How many times do i have to repeat myself?
Don't repeat yourself. Make sense and respond to the actual conditions.
Don't repeat your silly nonsense.
in response to shiftb: Coach Fulmer, thank you for your loyal service to UT. You spurned Bryant to come and play for UT then dealt Bama another mortal wound as you got the best of them for the majority of your tenure. They had to watch in envy as you brought our beloved UT it's first NC since 1950. I remember thinking " I never thought we would win one in my lifetime", as i was jumping up and down with sheer glee. It was a disgrace how you were treated here and are still treated on this site. I humbly want to apologize to you and hope one day you will be our AD like you deserve. Best wishes, SIR! Since the majority of "rubes" on here didn't have the class to do it, i took it upon myself to apologize for you. It carries a lot more weight coming from me anyhow.
Coach Fulmer, thank you for your loyal service to UT. You spurned Bryant to come and play for UT then dealt Bama another mortal wound as you got the best of them for the majority of your tenure. They had to watch in envy as you brought our beloved UT it's first NC since 1950. I remember thinking " I never thought we would win one in my lifetime", as i was jumping up and down with sheer glee. It was a disgrace how you were treated here and are still treated on this site. I humbly want to apologize to you and hope one day you will be our AD like you deserve. Best wishes, SIR!
Since the majority of "rubes" on here didn't have the class to do it, i took it upon myself to apologize for you. It carries a lot more weight coming from me anyhow.
Really kid, you don't have to "apologize for" Fulmer. He probably would not appreciate you apologizing for him.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: I remember Johnny Majors saying the same thing. I also realize that Dooley would never be given the amount of time JM was afforded. Therefore it's logical to see that Dooley may have realized he bit off more than he could chew in taking the HC'ing position at UT. I don't blame him for wanting to coach in the SEC, but he was doomed from the start in many respects. I for one was hoping Cutcliffe or Kippy Brown to get the job at least for some stability until a younger coach with a modern approach would take over. I think that's what we have now, it just took a while to find the right guy.
I remember Johnny Majors saying the same thing. I also realize that Dooley would never be given the amount of time JM was afforded. Therefore it's logical to see that Dooley may have realized he bit off more than he could chew in taking the HC'ing position at UT. I don't blame him for wanting to coach in the SEC, but he was doomed from the start in many respects. I for one was hoping Cutcliffe or Kippy Brown to get the job at least for some stability until a younger coach with a modern approach would take over. I think that's what we have now, it just took a while to find the right guy.
That makes sense.
I'm not sure I agree with Cutcliffe or Brown. Except for a Saban or Meyer, not sure who would have been a good choice. I really believe that the condition of the UT football program was in much more trouble than many realized. Having to play 20-some freshmen is not a good thing. I really wonder what would have happened if we had beat UF in 2012.
And I do agree that after the Dooley years, Jones looks like a good choice.
in response to shiftb: If only UT had realized that "the coach who doesn't deserve to be mentioned in one of my glorious posts", was much worse than anyone thought, perhaps the most colossal mistake UT football ever made wouldn't have happened.
If only UT had realized that "the coach who doesn't deserve to be mentioned in one of my glorious posts", was much worse than anyone thought, perhaps the most colossal mistake UT football ever made wouldn't have happened.
A legend was gone, the opposite of Fulmer was hired and deserted us with a moments notice, and we had 8 kids sitting in Knoxville who thought they were coming to play for Kiffin. Maybe the condition of the UT football program was much worse than anyone thought?
So, what was your solution? Here's the scenario. "Dooley was here, UT realized that the situation was worse than anyone thought, and Dooley was in over his head." What was your solution? Hire a fourth coach in four years? Amd who would that have been? Don't offer the Bill Cowher foolishness.
in response to shiftb: "No one wanted this job". I'm sure Butch Jones and Kevin Sumlin appreciate you calling them nobodies.
"No one wanted this job". I'm sure Butch Jones and Kevin Sumlin appreciate you calling them nobodies.
Stop being a jerk. That's not what I said. Obviously your 6th grade education hampers your understanding of common English. Your showing your ignorance.
in response to murrayvol: With all respect johnlg, I don't think Dooley gave his all.....or maybe he just didn't know how.
in response to murrayvol:
With all respect johnlg, I don't think Dooley gave his all.....or maybe he just didn't know how.
I seem to recall Dooley said after he got here that things were actually worse than what he thought. Fulmer and Kiffin left a mess with no easy solution. Dooley was in over his head and I don't think he had much support from anybody.
in response to johnlg00: It is so funny to me that guys like the one you replied seem to have NO CONCEPTION of what it is like to simply be a fan of the people who represent your school and your state on the national stage. None of them are or ever have been or ever will be perfect in every way. But they are OUR guys who are giving it their all. We suffer and rejoice with them. We are ALL IN. There is no way we will be embarrassed over that. Trolls are just beating the air. It's great to be a Tennessee Vol. For that matter, it's great to be a Bammer, a Gator, or--God forbid--a 'Dore, if that's what you are. Just BE somebody, don't merely exist IN ORDER to TRY to make other people miserable. Sheesh!
in response to johnlg00:
It is so funny to me that guys like the one you replied seem to have NO CONCEPTION of what it is like to simply be a fan of the people who represent your school and your state on the national stage. None of them are or ever have been or ever will be perfect in every way. But they are OUR guys who are giving it their all. We suffer and rejoice with them. We are ALL IN. There is no way we will be embarrassed over that. Trolls are just beating the air. It's great to be a Tennessee Vol. For that matter, it's great to be a Bammer, a Gator, or--God forbid--a 'Dore, if that's what you are. Just BE somebody, don't merely exist IN ORDER to TRY to make other people miserable. Sheesh!
Yup john, these trolls have no concept of being a fan. We rejoice in the victories and hurt with the losses, but we still support our Vols.
If you asked this 7T guy where he went to school, he'd probably offer the name of his elementary school.
in response to SevenT: The Bottom line is you are a complete liar. I was curious so I took a peak at your 7000+ posts (the number of posts is an indication of a pathetic troll with no life) and found that you repeated over and over and over hate filled Anti-Fulmer posts. Perhaps you did support Kiffin and Dooley but certainly not Fulmer. Pal, that is not what "fans" do.
in response to SevenT:
The Bottom line is you are a complete liar. I was curious so I took a peak at your 7000+ posts (the number of posts is an indication of a pathetic troll with no life) and found that you repeated over and over and over hate filled Anti-Fulmer posts. Perhaps you did support Kiffin and Dooley but certainly not Fulmer.
Pal, that is not what "fans" do.
Bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaa! I'm a troll? I'm impressed you read all 7k posts!
FWIW, I supported Fulmer right up until '05. Then he started messin' up. Kind of claiming that he was bigger than Neyland and my university. Once he started blaming the fans for a loss, I knew Fulmer was done.
Me a troll? Hardly! UT grad, 1965! Never posted anything on other team boards. Only support my Vols.
Didn't particularly like Kiffin, but he was the coach. Dooley? He didn't win many games, but he did a job no one else would do. He tried to clean up the mess left by Fulmer and Kiffin. Now? I support Coach Jones.
And you? Do you support anyone or do you just try to trash other fans?
in response to SevenT: Dingo Nat. Signing Day is in February having a No. 1 Class at this point is meaningless I will bet you are one of the same UT homer crowd that was all jacked up the season before Kiffin's first year....you were probably very proud of the UT mouthpiece then too Also I'll bet you were a delusional Doolaidist who was all jacked up about Coach's character. My advice is to learn about the game of College Football and accept reality....UT is in pitiful shape and will be extremely lucky to win 1 or 2 SEC games next year. Just like last year. Just Saying
Dingo
Nat. Signing Day is in February having a No. 1 Class at this point is meaningless
I will bet you are one of the same UT homer crowd that was all jacked up the season before Kiffin's first year....you were probably very proud of the UT mouthpiece then too
Also I'll bet you were a delusional Doolaidist who was all jacked up about Coach's character.
My advice is to learn about the game of College Football and accept reality....UT is in pitiful shape and will be extremely lucky to win 1 or 2 SEC games next year. Just like last year.
Just Saying
Yup, I backed Kiffin and Dooley and I'm backing Butch Jones. Why? Because that's what fans do!
Nothing wrong with John Adams. He just says things that some of the folks on hear do not want to hear.
Enforce the user agreement.
The KNS reporters don't have to be UT homers, but some seem to be anxious to "report the dirt" about UT.
Wes Rucker? May be a good writer (He says he is!), but his attitude needs to improve.
in response to overthetop: Gee! You really think she said she was ok and wanted to finish the game? Well, to heck with a national championship! She said she was ok! Cmon Gerry, this ain't a movie pal. She was beat down and they paid the price. That's why they make the big bucks. To make smart, rational decisions that are best for the program and the ENTIRE team.
in response to overthetop:
Gee! You really think she said she was ok and wanted to finish the game? Well, to heck with a national championship! She said she was ok! Cmon Gerry, this ain't a movie pal. She was beat down and they paid the price. That's why they make the big bucks. To make smart, rational decisions that are best for the program and the ENTIRE team.
I've seen that happen several times. I believe that it is possible.
At any rate, that theory is better than seeing a bunch of posters trashing the Weekly's. As you said, they make the big bucks. And whatever their thinking was, they knew what they were doing and it wasn't an ignorant mistake.
Believe whatever you want, and I will too. Two games to go.
I get a real kick out of how some of you mental midgets criticize the Weekly's for leaving Ellen in there too long last night. Did any one guess that just maybe they asked how she was doing ... and she said she was OK and wanted to finish? That happens a lot when coaches are dealing with their stars. Really!
Hey, the good news is that the Lady Vols, and everyone else, learned that the Vols can go nose-to-nose with OU ... and win. That could be helpful knowledge tonight.
in response to Ghost_Of_Neyland: Ellen threw well over 150 pitches. Who needs hindsight to realize she needed a break after Shipman came through? What about her posture on the bench? Maybe you missed the game? She was spent more than your money at the Carousel!! She was gassed!! An outcome is not needed to decipher that Ivy should've been the one closing that game. Should we interject whatshisname at this point (only to forcefully hammer this home)? Didn't think so...stay on topic about the game, or GTHO!!
Ellen threw well over 150 pitches. Who needs hindsight to realize she needed a break after Shipman came through? What about her posture on the bench? Maybe you missed the game? She was spent more than your money at the Carousel!! She was gassed!! An outcome is not needed to decipher that Ivy should've been the one closing that game. Should we interject whatshisname at this point (only to forcefully hammer this home)? Didn't think so...stay on topic about the game, or GTHO!!
Somebody wanna' explain to me what this jibberish is all about? The kids on here tend to be really whacko! We got Toddy who appears to be 11-12 years old and in the 6th grade. Then we have this ghost-guy-jerk who appears to be 15-16 years old ... and in the 6th grade. All they do is babble typical 6th grade playground trash.
in response to lomas98: I have not watched a single softball game. Since UT was on and in the championship game, I found myself switching over last night to see what was going on. I watched the last 3 innings in their entirety. I don't know any of the players names or who the coaches are, but thought it was a good game with great effort on both sides. It seems that Oklahoma team is a machine and it was pretty impressive to hold them scoreless for that long. One thing I am sure of is the fans on this board and how they are experts at everything. I bet there haven't been this many comments on softball articles for the whole season combined. But, you can sure bet when UT loses a game on a national stage everybody comes on here and spouts off how they could have done things differently, or the coaches blew it, or a player shouldn't be out there. Which is why TN fans are labeled as some of the dumbest in America and why trolls of other teams come on here to stir it up with you all. I knew we had a bunch of qualified football coaches and basketball coaches who don't even have a coaching job on here, but I never knew there were this many softball coaches here.
in response to lomas98:
I have not watched a single softball game. Since UT was on and in the championship game, I found myself switching over last night to see what was going on. I watched the last 3 innings in their entirety. I don't know any of the players names or who the coaches are, but thought it was a good game with great effort on both sides. It seems that Oklahoma team is a machine and it was pretty impressive to hold them scoreless for that long.
One thing I am sure of is the fans on this board and how they are experts at everything. I bet there haven't been this many comments on softball articles for the whole season combined. But, you can sure bet when UT loses a game on a national stage everybody comes on here and spouts off how they could have done things differently, or the coaches blew it, or a player shouldn't be out there. Which is why TN fans are labeled as some of the dumbest in America and why trolls of other teams come on here to stir it up with you all. I knew we had a bunch of qualified football coaches and basketball coaches who don't even have a coaching job on here, but I never knew there were this many softball coaches here.
Amen brother, my point exactly. A lot of these people fit into the category of pointing out what was done wrong. But, if asked before hand what should be done, they wouldn't have an answer! With 20/20 hindsight, many are experts!
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in response to vts1965:
So, what was OU's problem ... 0 runs through 10 innings?
It always amazes me how much some dudes criticize stuff done wrong by one of our teams during a loss. But, analysis of what "should have been done" is pretty simple with 20/20 hindsight.
It also saddens me the criticism thrown at our players and coaches for mistakes made. Hey, no one on this blog could have done a better job than our UT athletes and coaches. However, they are simply human and will occassionally screw up. So be it, they are only humans.
No one expected the excellence our Lady Vols showed last night. Many even suggested that they simply forfeit the games and head on back to K'town! That's how one-sided these games were expected to be. OU was supposed to be that powerful.
So, c'mon guys! Stop the negativism and criticism and starting cheering these ladies on! They deserve every cheer and support we can offer! I look forward to watching them win tonight and tomorrow night!
Hey UT is still playing! How many teams have already gone home and how many teams never even got to Okie City? Think about that!
Good job Lady Vols! You went from unknown, unrated, and preordained losers to some of the best reps of The University of Tennessee in a long time. I listened to ESPN go from discounting you to ESPN actually saying you gave OU a challenge no on expected.
Now that you have all of the intros and "unknowns" out of the way, go forth and do well! Bring the national championship back to K'town!
Dooley left a lot more for Jones than Fulmer/Kiffin left for Dooley. We know you hated him and are personally ecstatic by his firing but you can't let your personal feelings cloud your judgment.
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