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Perhaps all the bloviating about Memphis and U of L being the real rivalry from Pastner has finally met reality. After all that is what Pastner said was his reason to stop the instate games with UT.
Louisville doesn't give a hoot about Memphis. They care more about beating UK and winning their conference.
It smelled like feces then and the smell hasn't dissipated. It is about losing recruits to Knoxville. That is what Pastner is worried about. UT has made some inroads into west Tennessee and that rivalry threatens Memphis' dominance over there in the flat lands near the Big Muddy.
in response to VolYork45: After having watched a majority of these games and reading up on some schools, it's OK to have some confidence in this Vols team. Sure, we didn't have the best spring game ever, but it was a stepping stone in the return of the defense and the team fought through some adversity in working without some key players. If this team can develop fundamentals in summer workouts and come back in the fall ready to install the final bits of the O, this team has a good amount of talent to compete. Jones can coach. I watched him at UC and at CMU while I was in Dayton, OH. He works VERY well with the hand he's dealt. If things go the Vols' way this year, they could definitely be headed to a bowl game, which would be an accomplishment thanks to a thin team and tough schedule. AT WORST this team is 5-7(2-6), but could easily be 7-5(4-4) or with some luck 8-4(4-4)(5-3). If the Vols steal a game at Ore or UF, the team could ride a momentum wave and have a solid year. Very excited to see this 2013 team. Go Vols
in response to VolYork45:
After having watched a majority of these games and reading up on some schools, it's OK to have some confidence in this Vols team. Sure, we didn't have the best spring game ever, but it was a stepping stone in the return of the defense and the team fought through some adversity in working without some key players. If this team can develop fundamentals in summer workouts and come back in the fall ready to install the final bits of the O, this team has a good amount of talent to compete. Jones can coach. I watched him at UC and at CMU while I was in Dayton, OH. He works VERY well with the hand he's dealt. If things go the Vols' way this year, they could definitely be headed to a bowl game, which would be an accomplishment thanks to a thin team and tough schedule. AT WORST this team is 5-7(2-6), but could easily be 7-5(4-4) or with some luck 8-4(4-4)(5-3). If the Vols steal a game at Ore or UF, the team could ride a momentum wave and have a solid year. Very excited to see this 2013 team. Go Vols
I'm not holding my breath. UT football has been too painful going all the way back to Fulmer's last two out of three years.
I'll watch and support the team but I've been optimistic far too many years with far too little results.
in response to cltvol: and the great John Constantine Unitas was technically drafted in the 9th round, cut befor playing a down (coach thought him too dumb), but then caught on with Colts the next year. Hang in and gut it out TB. You can make it!
in response to cltvol:
and the great John Constantine Unitas was technically drafted in the 9th round, cut befor playing a down (coach thought him too dumb), but then caught on with Colts the next year. Hang in and gut it out TB. You can make it!
The difference was when he got drafted to Pittsburg he never got to play a down in the training camp warming the bench behind three other QB coming out of Louisville who was a doormat to everyone including UT.
Yep, Johnny U. played against UT. The legend is that he was so exhausted at the end of the game that they had to cut his uniform off him because he couldn't raise his arms from exhaustion. He had 86% of U of L tackles, returned 6 kick offs, punted, rushed, passed and scored the only score for Louisville on a 28 yard QB keeper. It was said that even Neyland applauded him when he left the game in the 4th quarter after an injury.
I certainly hope the Unitas movie that is in production does him justice. From the time he was a boy until his death it was an incredible story.
Bray couldn't carry Unitas' jockstrap.
This makes our front court one of the most talented, proven and experienced ones pre-season in the league, if not the country.
Add one proven outside shooter, although streaky, and an incoming shooters and this might be a very special year for the Vol faithful.
in response to jt45: Gators Gymnastics huh,,,now thats funny !Congrats to the gators Gymnastics team.LOL !Ha HaHe He LOL! Swamp lizards doing backflips, who would have thunk it ? Thanks for the laugh.
in response to jt45:
Gators Gymnastics huh,,,now thats funny !Congrats to the gators Gymnastics team.LOL !Ha HaHe He LOL! Swamp lizards doing backflips, who would have thunk it ? Thanks for the laugh.
That would be the "Leaping Lizards" gymnastics team?
Good luck Yemi. I actually liked him. He hustled as hard as anyone on defense and knew his role. He'll be a good pick up for a D2 school somewhere.
in response to johnlg00: Hard to say if you meant to "damn with faint praise", but do remember that, as unpromising as Boerwinkle was coming in--and believe me, I saw that first-hand--he was a MONSTER going out, the hub of an SEC champion team who went on to play 10 or so very productive years in the NBA. If that is what you meant by that example, just take my comment as reinforcement of yours.
in response to johnlg00:
Hard to say if you meant to "damn with faint praise", but do remember that, as unpromising as Boerwinkle was coming in--and believe me, I saw that first-hand--he was a MONSTER going out, the hub of an SEC champion team who went on to play 10 or so very productive years in the NBA. If that is what you meant by that example, just take my comment as reinforcement of yours.
All I am saying is that stats lie and talent can be developed.
Every player Martin recruits will be picked apart by the Pearl lovers on this board but there might be something to this kid that Martin sees and we haven't yet. Just like Boerwinkle.
in response to OwensboroVol: "He can score around the rim"! Then why didn't he? 2.5 points a game and 3.5 rebounds a game. I know there were some kids in Tennessee who could match or exceed that production. This is a wasted scholarship and you can take that to the bank. This kid will never see any playing time. We need to start looking for a new coach now!
in response to OwensboroVol:
"He can score around the rim"! Then why didn't he? 2.5 points a game and 3.5 rebounds a game. I know there were some kids in Tennessee who could match or exceed that production. This is a wasted scholarship and you can take that to the bank. This kid will never see any playing time. We need to start looking for a new coach now!
One word...Boerwinkle.
in response to mocsandvolsfan: I had tomato soup for lunch... no sandwiches nor crackers nor any extra carbs. It was still good.A bowl of this every day might just cure some hamsrting probs...or an apple a day. Stay healthy vols...(I was real close to typing mocs by accident...the problem of going to small schools)
in response to mocsandvolsfan:
I had tomato soup for lunch... no sandwiches nor crackers nor any extra carbs. It was still good.A bowl of this every day might just cure some hamsrting probs...or an apple a day. Stay healthy vols...(I was real close to typing mocs by accident...the problem of going to small schools)
One of the treats I remember as a kid was freshly made tomato soup from out of the garden on our little corner of the Cumberland Plateau.
Spring was announced with fresh sweet peas and dumplings and fall was when dad broadcasted turnip and mustard green seeds over the remants of a long summer's toil. In the moments in between there was mush and honeydew melons with bacon for breakfast, stuffed patty pans for lunch, wilted leaf salads made with lettuce and green onions still warm from the summer sun with supper. There was also the dreaded long sleeve shirt we donned for cutting stinging okra that we endured for the pickles that were proudly shared in the cold winters. When we had too many tomatoes, we juiced them, made all purpose sauces, and of course great fresh tomato soup.
If you wanted to know what time of year it was, all you had to do was see what mom and dad were feeding us.
Tomato soup and a grilled cheese. It just brings up a lot of long lost moments that were special to me.
in response to laraccoon: that sounds good but extremely high in sodium .
in response to laraccoon:
that sounds good but extremely high in sodium .
All things in moderation my friend. All things in moderation.
in response to TommyJack: anyone that loves tomato soup has no credibility with me.
in response to TommyJack:
anyone that loves tomato soup has no credibility with me.
You need texas toast grilled cheeses to dunk in it.
in response to SevenT: Nothing smelled quite as awful as the Ernie and Bernie Show. I laugh out loud every time I hear the story about the Kentucky Fan that flicked a lit ciggarett on Bernard.
in response to SevenT:
Nothing smelled quite as awful as the Ernie and Bernie Show. I laugh out loud every time I hear the story about the Kentucky Fan that flicked a lit ciggarett on Bernard.
The UK fans who aren't the stereotypical jerks that you epitomize who are worse winners than they are losers actually respect the Ernie and Bernie era.
I talk to them on a daily basis and believe me when I say they are as disgusted of fans like yourself as we are sick of hearing from them.
LONG overdue.
in response to jimr07: Point was let it play out before we send Aubur to the gas chamber..
in response to jimr07:
Point was let it play out before we send Aubur to the gas chamber..
Then what would the talking heads fill the 24 hour news cycle with?
in response to jimr07: Remember the Duke laCrosse team...let the story play out..
Remember the Duke laCrosse team...let the story play out..
I don't think it is the same thing.
The difference is that the police in the Duke Lacrosse and the DA both knew that the only "witness" was the "victim" and that she had a checkered past and was completely unreliable.
The DA decided to arrest the players anyway to make a name for himself during an election cycle.
Right now this is less about the alleged armed robbery and assault and more about the actions of the Auburn administration. There isn't a "crime" at all and there is no publically elected official trying to make points with the voters.
Also I don't think all the alleged sources are drug addicts with a history of arrest for solicitation.
in response to Pompey: ....several lessons here: For those who believe than only an alum should coach their college team...get over it! I hate every body in the SEC except one....UT. If you are an "SEC fan" get over it! If Auburn is not guilty no harm. If they are don't kill the messenger when you don't like the message. Finally, the fans share much responsibility for the mess college sports is in.
in response to Pompey:
....several lessons here:
For those who believe than only an alum should coach their college team...get over it!
I hate every body in the SEC except one....UT. If you are an "SEC fan" get over it!
If Auburn is not guilty no harm. If they are don't kill the messenger when you don't like the message.
Finally, the fans share much responsibility for the mess college sports is in.
You missed the most important one. If it had been heeded, the kid the article is about wouldn't be going to trial. He wouldn't have been in the car when they got pulled over.
Nothing good happens after Midnight!
"...things you tell me, I've heard that. But I don't have any facts behind any of that."
Facts don't matter! Accusations do!
Yep there was a lot of smoke sightings at Auburn concerning that year but no one found a fire. However when an Alumni is reporting this, it should trigger a NCAA investigation.
The Ducks may end up with a BCS Championship with an asterisk thrown in.
in response to cheetah-vol: I agree that the game was pretty physical. But, if you noticed in the article, the Lady Cards had 24 fouls called to the Lady Bears' 14. At one point early in the second half, the officials had called 8 fouls on the Lady Cards and 0 on the Lady Bears. Also, the Lady Cards had 3 players foul out, which helped the Lady Bears with their comeback. So, while Walz told his team to be physical, his team came close to having it backfire on them. I think the real bruhaha here is about the calls that were made late in the game and when Walz got a T and Mulkey did not. Those situations exposed how badly the game was officiated in its entirety.
in response to cheetah-vol:
I agree that the game was pretty physical. But, if you noticed in the article, the Lady Cards had 24 fouls called to the Lady Bears' 14. At one point early in the second half, the officials had called 8 fouls on the Lady Cards and 0 on the Lady Bears. Also, the Lady Cards had 3 players foul out, which helped the Lady Bears with their comeback. So, while Walz told his team to be physical, his team came close to having it backfire on them.
I think the real bruhaha here is about the calls that were made late in the game and when Walz got a T and Mulkey did not. Those situations exposed how badly the game was officiated in its entirety.
I don't think the difference in the number of fouls called between U of L and Baylor is a true reflection of who was getting calls their way.
By the very nature of the game, U of L would get less fouls on them because of the number of three pointers they put up. Baylor plays a post game and that will get more fouls called
They're was more ratchet jawing, flying elbows, hands in the face, etc. in this game that any I have seen in a long time at that level. That benefited U of L not Baylor and that was why Mulkey was POed at the end.
Mulkey was 8 foot out on the court at one time, she deserved a T at the end. Given all the physical play that went on all game, I almost agree with her about the charge call. By itself, is was a good call. In the context of the rest of the game, it should have been a no call.
And Griner did foul at the end inspite of what a few people, including Griner, are saying. You can't come over someone's back with contact against both the body and arms to block a shot and not expect a foul called. But it was a good foul ironically. It extended the game to the foul line with a 1 & 1.
It was a badly called game. The refs should have gotten it under control early in the contest and put a stop to it. U of L decided their only hope was to turn it into a fight club style of game and the refs let them do it. Their coach even indicated that was what they wanted to do.
I've seen pick up games on city park courts that were less physical. I was wondering if they shouldn't have issued MMA grappling gloves for the game.
in response to SeaBassHauling: I agree and you are correct...The timing is bad...BUT the billboard is something they should be ashamed of....! I don't care how many fans they have in the area...This is Tennessee not Alabama....Do you think that they would ever allow a UT Coach and the crystall ball on a billboard in there Lousy state??? NEVER
in response to SeaBassHauling:
I agree and you are correct...The timing is bad...BUT the billboard is something they should be ashamed of....! I don't care how many fans they have in the area...This is Tennessee not Alabama....Do you think that they would ever allow a UT Coach and the crystall ball on a billboard in there Lousy state??? NEVER
I think they did have Fulmer on a wanted poster at one time!
in response to Snapshot: So you think turning in another coach for cheating is being a "snitch"? That means the Ohio St. coach is dirt bag and a snitch, right? By the way he is! Did you feel the same way about Phil Fulmer when he "snitched" on Bama? Same thing. Everyone deserves a second chance, whether you think so or not.
in response to Snapshot:
So you think turning in another coach for cheating is being a "snitch"? That means the Ohio St. coach is dirt bag and a snitch, right? By the way he is!
Did you feel the same way about Phil Fulmer when he "snitched" on Bama? Same thing.
Everyone deserves a second chance, whether you think so or not.
UT was Pearl's 2nd chance. He was darn lucky to land the job.
Maybe you need to read up on what he did at Iowa.
I am not suprised to see some of the posters here talking about bring back Pearl.
There's never a peep from any of them when the program is winning under Martin then they show up like carrion beetles picking over a dead corpse after a disappointing end of the season.
Overall it hasn't been a bad couple of years considering the circumstances. You guys sound like whiny UK fans when they aren't in the final 4 every year.
in response to WetumpkaThumpa: What's your theory on how and why he got Hubbs to sign? I'm interested to know?
in response to WetumpkaThumpa:
What's your theory on how and why he got Hubbs to sign? I'm interested to know?
What theory?
They posted the story here on this very site when Hubbs signed!
Martin iced the deal by sending a handwritten cards to Hubbs' mom and his dad's mom wishing them a happy Mother's Day!
Pretty darn shrewd for a guy who can't recruit according to the "faithful".
Reported here September 18 2012. Look it up!
in response to TheEffect: Louisville wins hands down because they have alcohol sales at the Yum Center....the bourbon flows there like water over Niagra Falls.
in response to TheEffect:
Louisville wins hands down because they have alcohol sales at the Yum Center....the bourbon flows there like water over Niagra Falls.
Yep...and it's not overpriced like those $8 beers they had at the RCA dome when I was there!
in response to VolGrad: I would have said, "NO"... and then I saw some of those who did make it in.... Tennessee has more top 50 RPI wins than MTSU and St. Mary's... combined. The selection committee is either on acid or just practicing some bad voodoo to come up with some of these "at large" picks. Jay Bilas: "La Salle, MTSU and St. Mary's have four Top 50 wins, combined. UVa has six, by itself. Tennessee has three. Maryland has three. UK has four......I'm okay with the Committee taking every little guy. That's fine. Just admit it and stop saying "who did you beat?" Because you don't care." FootballTime.com: "Of the teams on the bubble, not one from a power conference was given an at-large bid. We’ve reached the point where the selection committee is discriminating against power conferences in favor of the “little guy” as Bilas put it. With the field the committee selected they sent a message to schedule terrible teams and beat them. MTSU played just four games against the RPI top 100…and lost three of them. The Vols, conversely, played 19 and won nine. Which team is more tested? Which team is more proven?"
in response to VolGrad:
I would have said, "NO"... and then I saw some of those who did make it in....
Tennessee has more top 50 RPI wins than MTSU and St. Mary's... combined.
The selection committee is either on acid or just practicing some bad voodoo to come up with some of these "at large" picks.
Jay Bilas: "La Salle, MTSU and St. Mary's have four Top 50 wins, combined. UVa has six, by itself. Tennessee has three. Maryland has three. UK has four......I'm okay with the Committee taking every little guy. That's fine. Just admit it and stop saying "who did you beat?" Because you don't care."
FootballTime.com: "Of the teams on the bubble, not one from a power conference was given an at-large bid. We’ve reached the point where the selection committee is discriminating against power conferences in favor of the “little guy” as Bilas put it. With the field the committee selected they sent a message to schedule terrible teams and beat them. MTSU played just four games against the RPI top 100…and lost three of them. The Vols, conversely, played 19 and won nine. Which team is more tested? Which team is more proven?"
I suspect that since there is a mid-major AD on the selection committee this year, that had a lot to do with more mid-majors making the dance. How else can you explain so many mid-major conferences sending multiple teams? Isn't there one sending like 5 teams? That's indefenseable.
I also think it makes the pathways for the power teams a lot easier to advance past the sweet 16.
Until the 2nd half of the SEC quarter final, yes.
After the 2nd half of the SEC quarter final, no.
You can't play a game on national TV, not ESPN, and toss up bricks like you were a bunch of apprentice masons trying to erect a mailbox at the end of a driveway.
The last 15 minutes of that game had more shots that should have went within 5 feet of the hoop that clanged around aimlessly to win that game 3 times over. Those 15 minutes going the other way would have made all the difference.
We can talk about all the close games early in the season but what UT showed at the end was they still had some offensive issues that were never resolved.
John,
Watching the replay, there was some really sloppy things going on, I admit. But I have to think a lot of it was the fact they had such an easy time getting a big lead and sitting on it.
And I have to say one thing. Late in the game when MS acted like it was going to make a game of it, UT put the brakes on them and stopped any last minute heroics.
Not every team can stop momentum like that late in a game. The Lucky Lizards for example couldn't do that against Arizona or UK this year!
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LOL
They were 13-1 going into league play with a win against Memphis. They have wins against 4 teams who were in the top 25 over the season. They have a RPI rank of 24 and a BPI rank of 30.
Their problem is how they finished. 5-11 over the 2nd half of the season looks bad but it isn't enough to wipe out the rest of their resume.
I realize that the rankings are obviously slanted towards the Big 10 and especially the Big East but objectively MN has evey right to make the dance as UT does. Subjectively it pisses me off that they could take a spot that UT might slip into.
But I still cheer for Tubby. If for no reason that his unceremonious exit from UK that he really didn't deserve.
in response to johnlg00: Well, I gotta say I can't remember a less-impressive 16 point win in my life! I'm not nearly as concerned about the margin of the win as I am by the almost-total lack of apparent interest or energy by nearly the whole team, nearly the whole time. If they go into tomorrow's game walking around in a daze and leaving the ball laying all over the court, they are going to get DRILLED! These guys just aren't good enough to think they can just turn it on and off as they choose. From everything I have heard from and about CCM, he is all about forming good HABITS and playing the way you are supposed to, regardless of the opponent or the score. I just hope the Vols understand how lackadaisical and sloppy they looked and vow NEVER to come out that way again!
Well, I gotta say I can't remember a less-impressive 16 point win in my life! I'm not nearly as concerned about the margin of the win as I am by the almost-total lack of apparent interest or energy by nearly the whole team, nearly the whole time. If they go into tomorrow's game walking around in a daze and leaving the ball laying all over the court, they are going to get DRILLED! These guys just aren't good enough to think they can just turn it on and off as they choose. From everything I have heard from and about CCM, he is all about forming good HABITS and playing the way you are supposed to, regardless of the opponent or the score. I just hope the Vols understand how lackadaisical and sloppy they looked and vow NEVER to come out that way again!
I am going to watch it after the fact but given that they owned them all the way through says something.
I think we need to look at the bright spots.
Golden didn't have a great game but UT still won.
Stokes has 3 steals and 2 assists? COME ON! That's a big guy in the paint.
We had 21 points off the bench. Sure it was MS but still if you can get 1/2 that on average you will do well.
Now it's time to watch it on replay but if I agree with you John, I'll come back and say it. I would rather have a sloppy win against MS to put a few heads on straight for Alabama than have a perfect game against MS and look like UT is having it's "special day" playing against them.
It's been quite a streak. Teams are up and then they're down. Better to be down for one game you can win than be down on one you have to play up for to prevent a loss.
Minnesota is a strong team that has a some very impressive wins. a decent overall record and have a good coach with a NC in his back pocket.
I like 'em and I like Tubby Smith. Too bad many of the boosters and faithful at UK had the bus warmed up for him when he got there. I'll always cheer for Tubby. Unless of course he is playing against UT.
in response to 1vavolfan: Stokes nor McRae are projected in the 1st or 2nd rounds, hopefully they are not seeking advice from Scotty Hopson's advisors. I believe it would be a situation where a current player transfers, but don't really see that happening, or a recruit being let out of his letter of intent. It is no secret that Martin is no longer sold on Landry and has been looking around, my guess is that Landry may be persuaded to go somewhere else.
in response to 1vavolfan:
Stokes nor McRae are projected in the 1st or 2nd rounds, hopefully they are not seeking advice from Scotty Hopson's advisors. I believe it would be a situation where a current player transfers, but don't really see that happening, or a recruit being let out of his letter of intent. It is no secret that Martin is no longer sold on Landry and has been looking around, my guess is that Landry may be persuaded to go somewhere else.
It could be easy for a slick talking agent to get a kid to commit to the draft if they are gullible or desperate to support their family.
We've seen it before on both ends. But I've always said that I have a gut feeling that Stokes wants a diploma as much as a NBA career. He was a 4.0 graduate out of H.S. when he graduated early and that speaks volumes. McRae has only a 1/2 a season of NBA head turning performances, I think he knows that isn't enough.
Still, a walking double-double in the paint and a potential #2 guard scoring threat from anywhere on the court with 7' wings are both hot commodities and the agents know it.
If UCONN wasn't banned from post season play, the committee would be hard at work to figure out how to justify only 3 SEC teams making the dance and 9 Big East teams to go.
The fun part would be seeing how they justify UK beating out yet another team who deserves it more. It has nothing to do with legacy either. They just know that UK fans will buy every ticket they can just like they did at the YUM center whether or not they even know if UK is playing.
Few seem to understand that if ETSU lands Fulmer that in itself is a jumpstart to the program.
If has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in his last years here but more to do with what he can bring as a division I coach to small school just putting their program together.
He has a lot of contacts, a name that is well known, a decent reputation regardless of the trolls and Alabama supporters and he can bring in press coverage just by being there.
Every win or loss for example would be broadcast over this site and the rest of the state/region. The good God above knows that if ETSU was fairing better than UT that Adams, Climer and the rest of the pot stirrers would make a mint on articles if they are paid by the letter.
in response to 1vavolfan: How will he sign with UT, they are out of scholarships for next season. Landry needs to go somewhere else, he is not SEC material.
How will he sign with UT, they are out of scholarships for next season. Landry needs to go somewhere else, he is not SEC material.
That all depends upon what Stokes and McRae do. It's too early to say we're out of scholarships. Anything can happen and a deep run into March might leave us a spot or two open.
But I have to also say it will be interesting to see what happens in UK. If the NBA doesn't pick up all these diaper dandies and Noel decides to re-hab in college, Calipari might find himself cutting strings on 5* players.
That could leave a green persimmon taste in the mouths of up and comers!
in response to Witch_Doctors: Witch Doctor say if you only knew how to troll you would be more effective...looks needy.Bones never lie.
in response to Witch_Doctors:
Witch Doctor say if you only knew how to troll you would be more effective...looks needy.Bones never lie.
Most trolls don't understand the concept of bait and hook.
Masterbaitery is what has made Climer's career for example.
in response to johnlg00: To me, the Vols' repeated failure to even show up for the SEC tournament is the biggest blemish on their historical resume. I would love for this team to finally slay that particular dragon. Even if there were no NCAA implications involved, and I think there probably are, it would be good for the team's psyche to prove, if only to themselves, that they could really rise to an important occasion and play their best when they really MUST.
To me, the Vols' repeated failure to even show up for the SEC tournament is the biggest blemish on their historical resume. I would love for this team to finally slay that particular dragon. Even if there were no NCAA implications involved, and I think there probably are, it would be good for the team's psyche to prove, if only to themselves, that they could really rise to an important occasion and play their best when they really MUST.
It's darn hard to put that big a string of wins in a row or people would do it all the time. That's why it's been so long since there was a 30-0 season and with today's parity in college ball it might not happen for another 37 years.
To go 9-1 after a 11-10 start then with less than a week's rest to follow up with a 4-0 run in 4 days then another 3-0 run the following week to make the sweet 16 with a play in game would be nothing short of miraculous.
And yes, I think this team is capable of being a sweet 16 squad regardless of what the local trolls think. It's just going to be a rough road to get there.
in response to chipmurphy461: Martin inherited players and brought in players. When he took over for Bruce Pearl, Tennessee wasn't a "rebuilding" job or roster "overhaul". I give Martin a lot of credit for taking the UT job with pending NCAA sanctions, but he shouldve continued to succeed where Pearl left off...at the very least making it to the NCCA tournament last year (losing in the first round or not). Do players really need to tell a coach that something as obvious as applying pressure should be implemented in order to be successful? Isn't it the coaches job to notice these types of aspects and make changes accordingly? I like Martin, he's a good recruiter, but he's not that great of a coach and it shows. As a previous poster noted fans wanting "Fulmer" and fans wanting "Pearl". UT's football program was on the decline under Fulmer, under Pearl UT's program was doing well. There's really no comparison there. Pearl is a better coach than Martin and that's obvious. If you can have a better coach and know exactly what you're getting with that coach then why not hire that coach? We must all assume that no matter where Bruce coaches next, that he will follow NCAA guidelines. So why not bring him back to UT?
in response to chipmurphy461:
Martin inherited players and brought in players. When he took over for Bruce Pearl, Tennessee wasn't a "rebuilding" job or roster "overhaul". I give Martin a lot of credit for taking the UT job with pending NCAA sanctions, but he shouldve continued to succeed where Pearl left off...at the very least making it to the NCCA tournament last year (losing in the first round or not). Do players really need to tell a coach that something as obvious as applying pressure should be implemented in order to be successful? Isn't it the coaches job to notice these types of aspects and make changes accordingly? I like Martin, he's a good recruiter, but he's not that great of a coach and it shows. As a previous poster noted fans wanting "Fulmer" and fans wanting "Pearl". UT's football program was on the decline under Fulmer, under Pearl UT's program was doing well. There's really no comparison there. Pearl is a better coach than Martin and that's obvious. If you can have a better coach and know exactly what you're getting with that coach then why not hire that coach? We must all assume that no matter where Bruce coaches next, that he will follow NCAA guidelines. So why not bring him back to UT?
Martin also LOST recruits when Pearl was fired. Two of the play right down the road from me in Louisville.
But we don't count that much do we?
It doesn't matter that most of this team, including Maymon, did absolutely squat under Pearl to the trolls on this board.
But what chaffs me the most is why lie about a barbeque? Why then go to recruits parents and try to get them to lie too? It was at worst a minor infraction. Pearl, all on his own, turned it into a 3 year just cause penalty.
in response to Giverny: Dear John: Well...in all seriousness, lets begin with something that's not antidotal, a metric, something that can be measured as it apples to the 'box of rocks' comment.... Be objective and truthful....what do you think his IQ is....would you like for me to list the critical elements of what comprises the assessment of the IQ or are you familiar with them... Obviously this is just a guess, a projection if you will but what do you think it is?
in response to Giverny:
Dear John:
Well...in all seriousness, lets begin with something that's not antidotal, a metric, something that can be measured as it apples to the 'box of rocks' comment....
Be objective and truthful....what do you think his IQ is....would you like for me to list the critical elements of what comprises the assessment of the IQ or are you familiar with them...
Obviously this is just a guess, a projection if you will but what do you think it is?
Above room temperature...unlike yours.
in response to John_10065: Dumber than a box of rocks? Why? Was it when he went to the SEC and complained about Stokes getting ticky tack fouls and that boosted Stokes confidence and got him playing up to his size? Because he had the foresight to switch from a 3 G 2 F set to a 4 G set and finish off this season with a 9-1 run? Or when he called time out to tell the guys that FL wasn't switching fast enough on the picks and look for the open 3? Oh wait let's talk about how on the last inbound of the game against Mizzou he put Golden on the floor instead of inbounding sensing he wanted the ball and got 2 of 2 at the line. Is that the box of rocks you are talking about?
in response to John_10065:
Dumber than a box of rocks?
Why?
Was it when he went to the SEC and complained about Stokes getting ticky tack fouls and that boosted Stokes confidence and got him playing up to his size? Because he had the foresight to switch from a 3 G 2 F set to a 4 G set and finish off this season with a 9-1 run?
Or when he called time out to tell the guys that FL wasn't switching fast enough on the picks and look for the open 3?
Oh wait let's talk about how on the last inbound of the game against Mizzou he put Golden on the floor instead of inbounding sensing he wanted the ball and got 2 of 2 at the line.
Is that the box of rocks you are talking about?
Oh I get it now!
It was that stupid move to send Hubb's mom a personally written note on Mother's Day to push the commitment over the top that makes him a box of rocks!
in response to Giverny: I'm happy for the win but the 'bandwagon effect' amuses me to no end....is it the same one most of you used with Kiffin and Dooley...maybe some new paint? Some good things about the season include the fans support has been remarkable especially considering how uninspired we have played at times...secondly the players are playing better as a team, despite having a coach who is lacking in so aspects of coaching...beginning with communication, leadership, recruiting, ...and I'm sorry but he's dumber than a box of rocks....
I'm happy for the win but the 'bandwagon effect' amuses me to no end....is it the same one most of you used with Kiffin and Dooley...maybe some new paint?
Some good things about the season include the fans support has been remarkable especially considering how uninspired we have played at times...secondly the players are playing better as a team, despite having a coach who is lacking in so aspects of coaching...beginning with communication, leadership, recruiting, ...and I'm sorry but he's dumber than a box of rocks....
I don't think too many active coaches could do what Martin has done. He took a team over under the clouds of NCAA sanctions, picked to be next to the bottom in the league and took them to within one game of a NCAA at large bid.
Then this year he loses a SEC pre-season 1st team power forward and team leader and has to rebuild around what he has to end up in a position to go back to the NCAA after a 9-1 run.
There will always be Pearl wanters just like there will always be Fulmer wanters in football. But I personally think Martin has earned his spot as the coach of the Vols twice over.
I think we're going to see an era of BB in Knoxville that will be held in high reverence in the future.
in response to iowavol: Unlike Pearl who proved it in the first year? Not sure I get your comparison, but I too liked Pearl and like Martin. I would like to see the team better prepared to start the season next year.
in response to iowavol:
Unlike Pearl who proved it in the first year? Not sure I get your comparison, but I too liked Pearl and like Martin. I would like to see the team better prepared to start the season next year.
I didn't recall Pearl coming in under the clouds of NCAA sanctions over his head.
I don't think that there is any fair way to compare the two during their first year.
in response to HtownVol: OK, so much talk of "is Tennessee in"When it comes to "buble teams" there are a few major factors and tennessee passes all of them.S.O.S - Tennessee has as good or better than most of the bubble teamsIs the team hot - 8 of 9 (nuff said)VS RPI top 50 - I believe UT is 3-3 (check)Quality wins - Witchita St, UF, UK and Mizz Jimmy Dykes DOES know more than 99% of sports commentators and he said UT was in before yesterday so I say UT is a lock, but say they are still close a win in the SEC-t will seal the deal and the game vs USC or MSU "should" be a lock, but giving UTs SEC-T history they could flop.Either way in my mind and most experts UT s in right now, the only thing that can keep them out is upsets in mid major tourneys AND a loss to a bad MSU or USC team. And stop with the McRae and Stokes are not NBA players. McRae is possibly SEC POY and is argably the hottest scorer in the country, yeah a NBA team would pass that up.. Look at the players that get taken in the bottom of the 1st round and second in last years draft. no where near the scoring talent of Mcrae plus Mcrae has the length for the NBAAnd anyone that tinks Stokes wont make it is flat out lying. He is almost the exact same player as Jared Sullinger. Sullinger never takes over a game with scoring but he is a walking double double. I always thought Stokes was just like Zach Randolph, just cant shoot like Randolph. That is why it is best for both players to come back.Stokes needs work on his mid range jumper, he will not be a center in the NBA so will need to be able to make a mid range shot.And McRae needs to work on ball handling and needs to add some bulk.As is both players are late first early second rounders and 2-3 year projects but will make a roster.One more season with a complete team around them to relieve the double teams should get both in conversation for a lottery pick.Just my opinion.GO VOLS
in response to HtownVol:
OK, so much talk of "is Tennessee in"When it comes to "buble teams" there are a few major factors and tennessee passes all of them.S.O.S - Tennessee has as good or better than most of the bubble teamsIs the team hot - 8 of 9 (nuff said)VS RPI top 50 - I believe UT is 3-3 (check)Quality wins - Witchita St, UF, UK and Mizz
Jimmy Dykes DOES know more than 99% of sports commentators and he said UT was in before yesterday so I say UT is a lock, but say they are still close a win in the SEC-t will seal the deal and the game vs USC or MSU "should" be a lock, but giving UTs SEC-T history they could flop.Either way in my mind and most experts UT s in right now, the only thing that can keep them out is upsets in mid major tourneys AND a loss to a bad MSU or USC team.
And stop with the McRae and Stokes are not NBA players. McRae is possibly SEC POY and is argably the hottest scorer in the country, yeah a NBA team would pass that up.. Look at the players that get taken in the bottom of the 1st round and second in last years draft. no where near the scoring talent of Mcrae plus Mcrae has the length for the NBAAnd anyone that tinks Stokes wont make it is flat out lying. He is almost the exact same player as Jared Sullinger. Sullinger never takes over a game with scoring but he is a walking double double. I always thought Stokes was just like Zach Randolph, just cant shoot like Randolph. That is why it is best for both players to come back.Stokes needs work on his mid range jumper, he will not be a center in the NBA so will need to be able to make a mid range shot.And McRae needs to work on ball handling and needs to add some bulk.As is both players are late first early second rounders and 2-3 year projects but will make a roster.One more season with a complete team around them to relieve the double teams should get both in conversation for a lottery pick.Just my opinion.GO VOLS
I'd like to see McRae and Stokes come back myself.
Call me crazy but I think Stokes wants to graduate. McRae has only a half a season of great ball and he would be man-handled without more meat on his bones in the NBA.
They both could use another year. But agents have more than once wooed away college players with promises unfullfilled to pad their own bank accounts.
This team seems to get stronger as the game progresses.
It was a very good win and rattled the brackets. I think that outside a miserable breakdown in Nashville next week, UT is in.
Got to give the big guy some credit.
There's only one way to fix a problem and that is put in the work. To get off a bus at 2:30 am and go practice foul shots sounds like something a determined and motivated player would do. Most of that is on Stokes but Martin I am sure motivated him by benching him.
And kudos to Yemi! Supporting a team member at that time of night after a long bus trip says volumes to the kind of team player he is.
FYI ESPN 3 is now carrying the game.
in response to utvolfan1955: then how do you get it?
in response to utvolfan1955:
then how do you get it?
Tin foil hat and face into the wind with your mouth open?
I'd rather have 5 guys that could score 30+ on any night but they don't have to because the team play says they can share the scoring.
That's the problem, McRae has carried the team too many times. They have a lot of the skills and attributes of a great BB team except scoring.
Losing to GA twice was horrible. But UT has never done well against a zone style defense for years. Pearl lost more than one game against a zone. Yet we want to hang Martin for the same problem. Oh Well!
A loss to Auburn would be inexcusable. They have to be beaten so badly that their ancestors roll over in their graves. That is the only way to come back home to face Missouri which is a game that we need to win badly before the tourneyment.
That last game is against a team thqat is barely out of the top 25 and will likely get a bid all on their own. That's the game we have to win and before we get there we need to plow under Auburn like they were Athletes in Action from a couple decades ago.
in response to Pipe_Down_Otis: Funny, everyone on here was disgusted with Martin a month ago. We were lucky against Fla....Stokes should have had at least 10 more points. But we'll see how it turns out if they get in, the tourney is wide open this year.
in response to Pipe_Down_Otis:
Funny, everyone on here was disgusted with Martin a month ago. We were lucky against Fla....Stokes should have had at least 10 more points. But we'll see how it turns out if they get in, the tourney is wide open this year.
Not me, I've been a supporter of Martin's since he came here and I realized his pedigree and what his peers said about him.
I got disheartened with Stokes for not playing up to his size and thought at one time that we needed to change the mascot to a bricklayer.
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