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I remember a few weeks ago several Vol fans bashing Alabama about taking commitments over twenty-five. Funny how it is different when it's the shoe on the other foot. What those whiners didn't want to accept then, but do now is the bottomline has to meet 25 when signing day comes around unless you have the opportunity this article describes due to changes with previous classes, etc. Nick Saban can do no more or less than Butch Jones or any other coach/program when everything is measured against the grand total.
in response to Vol43: Blue, I was thinking the exact same thing. Incredible isn't it? Joe's got it bad.
in response to Vol43:
Blue, I was thinking the exact same thing. Incredible isn't it? Joe's got it bad.
Live in TN. Read Sentinel. Didn't know time of day one reads a paper mattered! Apparently it bothers you. Repeat, you must be jealous. Article was about A&M, not Alabama, so here's my question: What does Alabama have to do with the article and why does it bother you!!!
in response to WetumpkaThumpa: Even the defending National Champ Gumps had trouble filling Bryant-Denny with Updikes every game last season, but everything is bigger in Texas. Maybe A&M will have better results in the age of HD television and more wins over Saban in their future?
in response to WetumpkaThumpa:
Even the defending National Champ Gumps had trouble filling Bryant-Denny with Updikes every game last season, but everything is bigger in Texas. Maybe A&M will have better results in the age of HD television and more wins over Saban in their future?
Your jealousy precedes you!
in response to nocleats: Unless his academic situation was in bad shape, I can't imagine what Sentimore was thinking or who he was getting advice from.
in response to nocleats:
Unless his academic situation was in bad shape, I can't imagine what Sentimore was thinking or who he was getting advice from.
While at Alabama, his grades were an issue and he took off too many plays.
in response to usafvol: Are you stupid or what? McCarron isn't half the qb Bray is; he was just lucky to be surrounded by a real team. McCarron wouldn't have started for about half the D1 schools in the country. I will him credit for having a hot gf though..
in response to usafvol:
Are you stupid or what? McCarron isn't half the qb Bray is; he was just lucky to be surrounded by a real team. McCarron wouldn't have started for about half the D1 schools in the country. I will him credit for having a hot gf though..
McCarron can make all the throws that Bray can, is able to run which Bray couldn't (looked like a humped back stick), knew how to protect the ball rather than panic when rushed and throw interceptions, and has far more maturity. Bray is talking big right now to try and salvage his career. He'll never do anything in the pros, because he's afraid of taking a hit and they'll intimidate the hell out of him. And, he'll resort to his childish pranks and be dumped.
Aren't some of you the very ones yacking about Saban having more recruits than the limit? Guess what, when it's all over both coaches will have only what they're allowed. The point is, however, the same things go on in all programs but it sure is viewed differently when it's your team versus another.
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Glad you feel that way, because he is one of the brightest defensive minds in the game and he'll probably take over when Saban retires and then you'll be among those whining that he's at Alabama. I've said it before; I'll say it again, your jealousy surrounds you.
in response to heyitsme: I "allege" that worse and more widespread issues have occurred at the University of Alabama, Ohio State University, and Notre Dame University just in the last 3 years. My "allegations" have the same credibility, if not more, than ESPN or anything Selena Roberts proclaims. Time for the NCAA to investigate my "allegations".
in response to heyitsme:
I "allege" that worse and more widespread issues have occurred at the University of Alabama, Ohio State University, and Notre Dame University just in the last 3 years.
My "allegations" have the same credibility, if not more, than ESPN or anything Selena Roberts proclaims.
Time for the NCAA to investigate my "allegations".
Gee, Alabama has had no major NCAA infractions in three years you allude to. Want to discuss Bruce Pearl and your baseball coach and if Kiffin had stayed you could add football to the list?
in response to jt45: Ok the billboard is more insulting than Saban speaking before a bunch suits. I wonder why this was put together in UTs backyard. Why not Nashvilleor Memphis ? Seems a bit fishy, Athens Tn,,Really?So Preston says its just about Leadership, not Football and they put up a Billboard of Saban holding the trophy. LOL! Im beginning to think that coach Jones just might be getting Sabans attention for him to prance around in Athens. I wonder what the Chamber is taking in for all this good will ? Can you imagine Jones going down to Alabubba for a leadership speech with such a billboard ? I cant. But then again Im just a fan not a politician.
in response to jt45:
Ok the billboard is more insulting than Saban speaking before a bunch suits. I wonder why this was put together in UTs backyard. Why not Nashvilleor Memphis ? Seems a bit fishy, Athens Tn,,Really?So Preston says its just about Leadership, not Football and they put up a Billboard of Saban holding the trophy. LOL!
Im beginning to think that coach Jones just might be getting Sabans attention for him to prance around in Athens. I wonder what the Chamber is taking in for all this good will ?
Can you imagine Jones going down to Alabubba for a leadership speech with such a billboard ? I cant. But then again Im just a fan not a politician.
You're the bubba for saying something so stupid. Get a grip people. It's a speaking engagement. I hardly think it will amount to an iota regarding recruiting or anything more than a talk. With your attitudes, I'd cancel the engagement if I were him. Then you can go find a real bubba.
in response to jack4444: You really think Battle would take that job? More work, tons of politics, dealing with those toothless fans, Battle's too smart.
in response to jack4444:
You really think Battle would take that job? More work, tons of politics, dealing with those toothless fans, Battle's too smart.
You obviously haven't been to a Bama game. There are no toothless fans, idiot. You only show your ignorance making such a comment.
in response to SouthPaVol: Quit giving Mike the big head; he already knows he's the best writer in Knoxville. Back on topic... Moore is right in that no one wants to be embarrassed. Better to find a weakness in March, than be exposed in September. Of the three phases of coaching: recruiting, coaching and motivating in practice, and game-time coaching, these guys are proven recruiters. Reeling in two pass-rushing DEs--one of which they took from Alabama--and two stud QBs was proof enough for me that these guys can recruit. Singularly, we did not lock in the stud RB we needed in 2013...CJG is gone. Now we have CRG and two RB verbals for 2014, one a 5-star RB. Second, motivation seems high in practice. Glad he took those green jerseys off. With five stud QBs, these guys need the chance to prove themselves in a live situation. Third, my bet goes down that CBJ can also coach at game-time. Go Vols!
in response to SouthPaVol:
Quit giving Mike the big head; he already knows he's the best writer in Knoxville. Back on topic...
Moore is right in that no one wants to be embarrassed. Better to find a weakness in March, than be exposed in September.
Of the three phases of coaching: recruiting, coaching and motivating in practice, and game-time coaching, these guys are proven recruiters. Reeling in two pass-rushing DEs--one of which they took from Alabama--and two stud QBs was proof enough for me that these guys can recruit. Singularly, we did not lock in the stud RB we needed in 2013...CJG is gone. Now we have CRG and two RB verbals for 2014, one a 5-star RB.
Second, motivation seems high in practice. Glad he took those green jerseys off. With five stud QBs, these guys need the chance to prove themselves in a live situation. Third, my bet goes down that CBJ can also coach at game-time. Go Vols!
Bama offers several top prospects at positions, so you can be sure they got a very good one, perhaps the one they wanted the most. The results speak for themselves. However, no doubt Jones will improve TN recruiting as it had gotten pretty bad. I'm sure he will bring the program along.
in response to CroKev: This is SO GREAT! I kept reading where Bama and Ohio State were at the front of the pack. It's been a long time since we've had this many "VERY HIGH QUALITY COMMITMENTS" at such an EARLY stage (man, it's mid-March!). Go BUTch! Who will be next? Kelly and Hurd will be tweeting them all...
in response to CroKev:
This is SO GREAT! I kept reading where Bama and Ohio State were at the front of the pack. It's been a long time since we've had this many "VERY HIGH QUALITY COMMITMENTS" at such an EARLY stage (man, it's mid-March!). Go BUTch!
Who will be next? Kelly and Hurd will be tweeting them all...
Bama is loaded at RB for 2013 and has a 5* commitment for 2014. TJ Yeldon, Jalston Fowler, and Kenyan Drake return plus Altee Tenpenny (Arkansas #1 RB), Tyren Jones (GA #1 RB) and Derrick Henry (#1 RB in nation) are committed.
in response to sameolvolalum: Am I the only person who kept yelling "where's the whistle" every time Stokes had the ball. Two separate games were called today. One was a call-all-ticky-tack on the Vols (except for one foul that UT got away with), and the other was "no blood...no foul" for UGA. This poor job of officiating was a disservice to the SEC, so I'd say this wasn't Slive talking.....it was money. The refs took UT out of the game half-way into the first half.
in response to sameolvolalum:
Am I the only person who kept yelling "where's the whistle" every time Stokes had the ball. Two separate games were called today. One was a call-all-ticky-tack on the Vols (except for one foul that UT got away with), and the other was "no blood...no foul" for UGA. This poor job of officiating was a disservice to the SEC, so I'd say this wasn't Slive talking.....it was money. The refs took UT out of the game half-way into the first half.
Your comment applies to every game, every team. Home teams get all the breaks; visitors barely are allowed to play ball. Wonder why few teams can win on the road? It's a pathetic commentary on all basketball, college and pros (although I really could care less to watch the NBA). Frankly, the Vols get all the calls at home, just as they get few traveling..same for everyone. It's not right and it is pitiful that officials cop out so much. A charge when a team is on the road is a block on the opponent when you're at home. I don't know if it is to keep home fans happy or the officials can't handle the pressure of home fans. But, it really ruins the game.
Nice win for the Vols.
in response to PUL4VOLS: Young men making terrible choices. That is indeed sad. But sadder still is the attitude it's no big deal if their lives go down the tubes because FB pope Nick can just call up more 4 star players. But that shows poor choice on a fan's part; the kids' lives do not matter, only that they get to play for almighty Alabama... That may be saddest of all.
in response to PUL4VOLS:
Young men making terrible choices. That is indeed sad. But sadder still is the attitude it's no big deal if their lives go down the tubes because FB pope Nick can just call up more 4 star players. But that shows poor choice on a fan's part; the kids' lives do not matter, only that they get to play for almighty Alabama... That may be saddest of all.
Come on, man. What a stupid comment. The university, like all of them, conduct programs constantly for athletes so they understand what is acceptable behavior and not, bring in special speakers for programs, work with them every way they can. Unfortunately, some make bad choices...and I must say very few at Alabama. You don't read things like this often. Contrary to snide remarks about Saban, he does everything he can to help players, but he is unashamedly willing to dole out punishment as well. You can trust they will deal first with the law, then with the school and will be punished. If the situation warrants it, they will be dimissed, not to make room for other players but to keep troublemakers out of the program. If this is a first offense, they'll be punished, suspended from games, and put at the end of the bench and it will be a long time before they see playing time. You can bet on that! If I was a Vol fan, I'd be careful casting stones.
in response to PUL4VOLS: I see we have the experts on here about defense and still many of "they'll never do it" Eeyore types. Eeyore is the blue/gray, negative donkey in the Winnie the Pooh story. Granted the Vols did not come near to having the personell to run the 3-4 last year. They tried, failed, and are GONE! Some of us are moving on. We begin a new era and time will tell who they are able to beat or compete with etc. By the way, whomever pointed out how the 3-4 is better suited to stop the spread, I suppose was not watching Texas A&M against Bama last year. I know, I know the JohnnyFootball factor but early in that game the 3-4 just was NOT stopping the spread of the Aggies. I suppose that all depends on the personnel of the spread team you are trying to stop.
I see we have the experts on here about defense and still many of "they'll never do it" Eeyore types. Eeyore is the blue/gray, negative donkey in the Winnie the Pooh story. Granted the Vols did not come near to having the personell to run the 3-4 last year. They tried, failed, and are GONE! Some of us are moving on. We begin a new era and time will tell who they are able to beat or compete with etc. By the way, whomever pointed out how the 3-4 is better suited to stop the spread, I suppose was not watching Texas A&M against Bama last year. I know, I know the JohnnyFootball factor but early in that game the 3-4 just was NOT stopping the spread of the Aggies. I suppose that all depends on the personnel of the spread team you are trying to stop.
Sure, it depends a lot on the personnel and coaching-up the players. Manziel is unique, but if you remember Bama basically shut them down the second half after they got surprised and could have won that game. Tide will be ready for them next year, second game in College Station. They're a good team, not mistaking that. Bama is going to play 3-4 because they can which gives more linebacker play and secondary, which is Bama's bread and butter.
in response to WetumpkaThumpa: I guess he feels fine with calling Saban that, Vandy doesn't have to play the Gumps this year. But he will have to live with the risk of a Gump fan, a la Harvey Updike or Brain Downing coming after him or his family. They do some scary stuff in the name of the Bear and Alabubba football.
I guess he feels fine with calling Saban that, Vandy doesn't have to play the Gumps this year. But he will have to live with the risk of a Gump fan, a la Harvey Updike or Brain Downing coming after him or his family. They do some scary stuff in the name of the Bear and Alabubba football.
With all the problems with players, Cumberland Drive parties and clubs, stolen laptops, street fights, women driving to S. Carolina to high school recruits games, beating up off-duty cops, throwing beer bottles onto parked cars.......need I go on.......I wouldn't be badmouthing anyone else's program Thumpa! All the Saban sarcasms are nothing but jealousy.
in response to emailnodata: Holly, pretty damn good job. UT isn't ready to beat any top team yet, but there were some good sparks. Graves continues to play well and hard. Holly is on the right track. Diggins.....sick of her. Period. Gets away with murder.
in response to emailnodata:
Holly, pretty damn good job.
UT isn't ready to beat any top team yet, but there were some good sparks.
Graves continues to play well and hard.
Holly is on the right track.
Diggins.....sick of her. Period. Gets away with murder.
Come on. Skylar is fantastic. The girl can play basketball. She was the best player on the floor by far. IMO the best in the girl's game, excluding Grinder who has height as her best weapon. But Diggins is a great all 'round player.
in response to CoverOrange: Wherever, just not Bama.
in response to CoverOrange:
Wherever, just not Bama.
Bama might not have space for him.
in response to TrackVol1975: First, while I liked Bruce Pearl, UT had no option but to fire him. Believe me, had we kept him, the NCAA would have gotten its revenge a thousand times, and our basketball program would have been decimated. Furthermore, every other UT athletic program would have undergone the kind of scrutiny that no program could handle. Second, while Ole Miss currently is winning, it is obvious that the program tolerates some very bad characters, and that will come back to haunt them in the future. A coach that encourages his players to mouth off is not a coach who is going to keep any kind of order. Does anyone think that Nick Saban would permit that kind of open braggadocio from one of his players? Believe me, Ole Miss will pay for this in the future, as Henderson apparently believes that he can run his mouth and that there will not be payback.
in response to TrackVol1975:
First, while I liked Bruce Pearl, UT had no option but to fire him. Believe me, had we kept him, the NCAA would have gotten its revenge a thousand times, and our basketball program would have been decimated. Furthermore, every other UT athletic program would have undergone the kind of scrutiny that no program could handle.
Second, while Ole Miss currently is winning, it is obvious that the program tolerates some very bad characters, and that will come back to haunt them in the future. A coach that encourages his players to mouth off is not a coach who is going to keep any kind of order.
Does anyone think that Nick Saban would permit that kind of open braggadocio from one of his players? Believe me, Ole Miss will pay for this in the future, as Henderson apparently believes that he can run his mouth and that there will not be payback.
Excellent post, common sense. I was reading everyone before you say "bring back Pearl". Your comments are exactly correct!
in response to Rumblefish: Well...we can all admit Dooley was entertaining (in the beginning of his stint here) in his press conferences. Then, as the losses piled up, he became frustrating.
in response to Rumblefish:
Well...we can all admit Dooley was entertaining (in the beginning of his stint here) in his press conferences.
Then, as the losses piled up, he became frustrating.
Yes and the biggest mouth and joke is Dick Vitale. I turn the sound off when he has a game and ESPN loves him so much he gets all the good games. He is as bad or worse than Howard Cosell.
in response to Ayres_Hall: I hope Derek gets Gary Danielson's job with the CBS College Football crew. He would be entertaining.
in response to Ayres_Hall:
I hope Derek gets Gary Danielson's job with the CBS College Football crew. He would be entertaining.
Ever noticed how most of them, Danielson in particular, are genuises once something has happened and they get a quick replay from the producer truck or when they look across the field before the camera does to see a coach about to take a timeout. Vern Lunquist probably is a very nice gentleman, but sometimes he appears to not have a clue about the sport and all he does is kiss Danielson's tailend whatever he says. It's easy to be an "expert" when you're a Monday morning quarterback.
Vonn Bell will commit to Alabama. You can count on it. It's between Georgia and Alabama and he will go to Alabama.
in response to Rumblefish: Were you talking smack when UT dominated BAMA from 1995-2006? I believe the record during that period was 10-2 in favor of UT. Just wondering....b/c you know...once you win, you just keep winning forever, right? Go try your psuedo knowledge on someone else, douche.
Were you talking smack when UT dominated BAMA from 1995-2006? I believe the record during that period was 10-2 in favor of UT. Just wondering....b/c you know...once you win, you just keep winning forever, right?
Go try your psuedo knowledge on someone else, douche.
It wasn't long ago many Vol fans were saying "Bama is living in the past". "Saban will bolt in two years". Uh!
in response to exlineman: What is it that some of you fans can't grasp, Vanderbilt has the Peabody arrangement set up in 1974. The majority of their players in all sports slip into the school through Peabody and their degree reads degree from Peabody Univ. at Vanderbilt. That shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand, Franklin is pushing Peabody to these athletes who can't get into some other college. I personally know of several kids there now attending Peabody and not Vanderbilt simply because they can't get into Vanderbilt. Some of these athletes are happy to take a road of less resistance. So when referring to Vanderbilt, it should be Peabody.
in response to exlineman:
What is it that some of you fans can't grasp, Vanderbilt has the Peabody arrangement set up in 1974. The majority of their players in all sports slip into the school through Peabody and their degree reads degree from Peabody Univ. at Vanderbilt. That shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand, Franklin is pushing Peabody to these athletes who can't get into some other college. I personally know of several kids there now attending Peabody and not Vanderbilt simply because they can't get into Vanderbilt. Some of these athletes are happy to take a road of less resistance. So when referring to Vanderbilt, it should be Peabody.
Peabody is not a slouch college where just any fool can get in. It is the second rated teacher's college to Columbia in NY in the nation. And, it certainly doesn't take backseat to some curriculum Vol players can take at UT, so quit bashing Peabody. Many Vol players such as Leonard Little years ago went to class with my cousin and never showed-up once for the class...but passed. So get over yourself.
in response to voloffaith: That would be alabama AFTER the bowl game...........
in response to voloffaith:
That would be alabama AFTER the bowl game...........
Interesting. Alabama's grades for athletes are higher, again. So, your sarcasm merely hits home.
Tide has lost two, inside bigs by injury for the season, so it's a struggle. Probably be a weak game.
in response to rollonbeagles: Since Ala. did a kneel down the entire 2nd half this really shows how goofy the computer is. The score could have been 56 to nothing if Saban had chosen too. I know a lot of Vol fans don't like Saban but I do. And ND had no business playing in a championship game. I don't know who should have been in there against Ala. Maybe Green Bay..
in response to rollonbeagles:
Since Ala. did a kneel down the entire 2nd half this really shows how goofy the computer is. The score could have been 56 to nothing if Saban had chosen too. I know a lot of Vol fans don't like Saban but I do. And ND had no business playing in a championship game. I don't know who should have been in there against Ala. Maybe Green Bay..
Beagles, you are right. He's intense and especially when dealing with the media (which doesn't bother me because generally they're a pain in the duff). But, he is a master at what he does, works endlessly, and here is the real key to the man........the kids respect him, he really develops the person not just the player, he 'requires' class attendance and passing grades, and he puts up with no bunk and the kids know it. So, he doesn't have many problems and when he does, they get corrected and punished and many times aren't around anymore. He interviews them with their parents (guardians) to see what kind of environment they've been in. He wants to know if they attend church. He truly works hard to determine the character of the player and oftentimes doesn't puruse a kid that he sees will be nothing but a problem even if he's a good ballplayer. Is he perfect? No, but he's one heck of a coach. You are right, Sir.
in response to Sunshine27: Folks, Sentimore has no where to go. He's not eligible academically. He's a low character person who cashed in his worthless chips. No way he gets drafted. He'll sign a free agent contract and get cut quickly. He was a non factor on a pitiful defense...he didn't do squat. Just being honest here. He received moronic advice....I suggest summer school and pray for a miracle.
in response to Sunshine27:
Folks, Sentimore has no where to go. He's not eligible academically. He's a low character person who cashed in his worthless chips. No way he gets drafted. He'll sign a free agent contract and get cut quickly. He was a non factor on a pitiful defense...he didn't do squat. Just being honest here. He received moronic advice....I suggest summer school and pray for a miracle.
He was recruited to Bama, but failed academically. Plus, Saban didn't want him after JUCO because he "takes off too much". He'll play one play, sit down on the next. And he wasn't committed to class and grades. Frankly, if he puts out half the time in the pros, he won't last long.
First, Johnny Football is extremely unique even among scrambling QBs. Second, Bama was coming off the LSU game and had to play him but once they adjusted A&M didn't score much more and could have lost that game on a last second, goal line play. But, no mistaking that he is special in that he not only runs like a rabbit but he is terribly effective passing, too. That is what distinquishes him because most running Qbs are poor passers. Just my opinion, but if any QB runs a lot he's apt to get hurt. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and countless other pocket QBs have proven quality years, healthy years at the position. Alabama's McCarron can run when needed, but generally stays in the pocket. That's where his protection is and once you leave that pocket you're vulnerable. It takes a very talented Manziel to be able to throw well on the run. Running was essentially what ended McNair's football career (not talking about his death). It almost ended Vick's and others. All in all, I'll take a QB that runs when absolutely necessary, but fundamentally stays in his pocket.
in response to pcorange: As a UT fan, I have been programmed my whole life to hate Alabama. (Honestly, I hate Florida worse.) That said, there is no denying that Bama is a great team with the best head coach in modern memory. Like it or not, that is the way it is. Congrats to Bama on extending the SEC national championship streak to 7. That is awesome. SEC, SEC, SEC!!!!
in response to pcorange:
As a UT fan, I have been programmed my whole life to hate Alabama. (Honestly, I hate Florida worse.) That said, there is no denying that Bama is a great team with the best head coach in modern memory. Like it or not, that is the way it is. Congrats to Bama on extending the SEC national championship streak to 7. That is awesome. SEC, SEC, SEC!!!!
Thank you, man. Appreciate those kind words! I hope things settle down for your Vols soon, too. It goes in cycles so it won't be this way long and Saturdays in East TN will be full of excitement again.
in response to AllforTenn: SEC
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SEC
Thanks, AllforTenn
in response to tnbigg: Congratulations Vandy...
in response to tnbigg:
Congratulations Vandy...
Class post! I, too, congratulate Vandy for their good season. Franklin has done a masterful job there and is energizing the fans.
in response to utjunkie: Hey Tater digger shouldn't you be praying osama ben satan I mean nick saban doesn't leave for the NFL.
in response to utjunkie:
Hey Tater digger shouldn't you be praying osama ben satan I mean nick saban doesn't leave for the NFL.
Not worried at all. Not leaving Alabama. Nothing but media junk. He's said over and over he will retire at Alabama. Everyone hopes he leaves that play against him, but not happening, Tater boy.
in response to mountainbrook: For the past 2 years Vanderbilt still has not beaten even one team with a record above .500. I guess this game is their big chance.
in response to mountainbrook:
For the past 2 years Vanderbilt still has not beaten even one team with a record above .500. I guess this game is their big chance.
Not sure I'd be talking.
in response to Noogaorange: A winning season would be great it's been hard the past few years with the way things have gone but there is hope with a new coach and a new attitude on the hill. Remember all programs go thru hard times. Below is a bit of info that will make all the bama haters (me included)feel better and also hopeful that we're on the way back too! Between Alabama's 1992 national title under Gene Stallings and its 2009 BCS crown under Nick Saban, the Crimson Tide were more recognized for coaching changes and NCAA sanctions than gridiron success. Alabama won one SEC title in those 16 seasons, and it suffered losing records in 1997, 2000, '03 and '06. Tennessee defeated Alabama seven consecutive times from 1995 to 2001, and Auburn won six straight Iron Bowls from 2002 to '07. Now don't you feel better? I do!!! Merry Christmas everyone. GBO VFL17.....
in response to Noogaorange:
A winning season would be great it's been hard the past few years with the way things have gone but there is hope with a new coach and a new attitude on the hill.
Remember all programs go thru hard times.
Below is a bit of info that will make all the bama haters (me included)feel better and also hopeful that we're on the way back too!
Between Alabama's 1992 national title under Gene Stallings and its 2009 BCS crown under Nick Saban, the Crimson Tide were more recognized for coaching changes and NCAA sanctions than gridiron success.
Alabama won one SEC title in those 16 seasons, and it suffered losing records in 1997, 2000, '03 and '06.
Tennessee defeated Alabama seven consecutive times from 1995 to 2001, and Auburn won six straight Iron Bowls from 2002 to '07.
Now don't you feel better? I do!!!
Merry Christmas everyone.
GBO VFL17.....
Always comparing to Alabama. Before the streak you reference and after it Alabama was on long streaks. Working on seven now.
in response to DaleCarter18: Bray is 6-foot-6 with a big arm and a quick release, and has a slew of 300-yard passing games behind him Did you watch any games this year John??? Quick release?!? That "quick release," requires a HUGE wind-up, that cost us many a fumble. Clowney and the SC game comes to mind. Bray's got a cannon, and unlimited potential, which I truly hope he reaches, but no one could watch that kid sling a ball and conclude that his release even resembles "quick." MORON
in response to DaleCarter18:
Bray is 6-foot-6 with a big arm and a quick release, and has a slew of 300-yard passing games behind him
Did you watch any games this year John???
Quick release?!? That "quick release," requires a HUGE wind-up, that cost us many a fumble. Clowney and the SC game comes to mind. Bray's got a cannon, and unlimited potential, which I truly hope he reaches, but no one could watch that kid sling a ball and conclude that his release even resembles "quick."
MORON
Sorry, but Bray never did squat against quality compeititon. He has no scramble versatility, panics when there's a rush and bails out. He only looked good against weak opponents. And, as you know, he was a spoiled baby that couldn't keep his act straight or be a leader on his team. He will never make it in the NFL.
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in response to titletownz:
Not sure where you get your facts, certainly not in football titles, friend. Alabama last year alone won national championships in: football, softball, women's gymnastics, and women's tennis. Alabama has fourteen football national championships, the most SEC football championships and is working on a fifteen in football. So, you must be counting swimming or something.
in response to bbmon13#478091: One thing about the Saban bolting for the NFL, etc. Don't know about that - however.... Saban is 61 years old - doesn't look it, but he is. Next month if Bama wins, he'll have 3 national championships - Spurrier will be 68 by the time next season starts. Richt has been at Georgia for 12 seasons now. Miles is always one play away from being on the hot seat. I guess my point is - there could be some changes in the league at any time, you never know who will decide it's time to retire, move on to something else, etc. Tennessee is in a pretty good position with Jones in that he's young and out to prove himself - the other coaches listed above, they have already proven themselves and may look towards another challenge or retire - these things run in cycles.
in response to bbmon13#478091:
One thing about the Saban bolting for the NFL, etc. Don't know about that - however....
Saban is 61 years old - doesn't look it, but he is. Next month if Bama wins, he'll have 3 national championships -
Spurrier will be 68 by the time next season starts.
Richt has been at Georgia for 12 seasons now.
Miles is always one play away from being on the hot seat.
I guess my point is - there could be some changes in the league at any time, you never know who will decide it's time to retire, move on to something else, etc.
Tennessee is in a pretty good position with Jones in that he's young and out to prove himself - the other coaches listed above, they have already proven themselves and may look towards another challenge or retire - these things run in cycles.
Saban isn't going to the pros. He and Terry have said it over and over. This is nothing more than the media hyping a story. And, he is under contract through 2019 and plans on retiring at Alabama, so he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He loves the job he has and still has the fire to teach. He would go nuts sitting around.
in response to Central_IL_Vol: Hopefully, in the middle of the Tennessee River!
in response to Central_IL_Vol:
Hopefully, in the middle of the Tennessee River!
You'll be in Tuscaloosa this year....so I guess to be as nice as you claim you are, you can sit in the middle of the Tuscaloosa River! Enjoy.
in response to SavTnVol: Who Cares? This is a Tennessee site, not an Alabuma Crimson Turd site
in response to SavTnVol:
Who Cares? This is a Tennessee site, not an Alabuma Crimson Turd site
Nice way to show your class, fellow.
in response to jack4444: Johnny Heisman was a 3star.
Johnny Heisman was a 3star.
So was Mark Ingram. Look back at the "experts" picks for who would do what this year. Of course, they had So Cal #1. Now look where they are. They had Arkansas #5, look where they finished. Look where they had Texas A&M, where they finished. Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Auburn, the list goes on and on. They don't know squat, frankly. Too many factors, unexpected heroes, injuries, etc. The recruiting stars are merely one indicator. I know most teams look at factors such as character, ability to learn, background, desire, ability to workout in the weight room, ability to pass grades, etc. None of which the experts predictions consider.
in response to HooRay_Vol: Then Kirby Smart would have been the only guy interviewed. Gruden and Shaw would never seriously consider this job. We don't need another tier 2 coach to be pulled up from the ranks. And if Hart thought Smart would be a good hire, he would have already brought on another Bama boy. But then again, he may be all that is left since the Barn did not want him.
in response to HooRay_Vol:
Then Kirby Smart would have been the only guy interviewed. Gruden and Shaw would never seriously consider this job. We don't need another tier 2 coach to be pulled up from the ranks. And if Hart thought Smart would be a good hire, he would have already brought on another Bama boy. But then again, he may be all that is left since the Barn did not want him.
First, most posters didn't want Kirby because he was "another Alabama" connection. Now that things aren't going well, you want him. Honestly, I don't think he wants the job. He is making very good assistant money right now, connected to a winning program, and he will be very selective when he jumps. I frankly think he should coach a couple of years at a smaller school to get head coaching experience and then he will be one of the top candidates for the best jobs open at that time. Also, don't blame Dave Hart for all this. All he heard from Vol fans was "go get a top name coach", so when he did and they turned the program down, he was then behind the eight ball. Not everybody wants to face SEC caliber opponents every week, so they stay where they can win with less pressure. The Vol program is going through a tough stretch and many people just don't want the responsibility of resurrecting that. Tennessee probably will have to find someone like James Franklin that comes in and has the skill to turn that around, then decide whether he is the man for the long term or then go out and be in a postion to lure that top name coach.
in response to CMKSIDESHOW: AMEN to that, I'm all for the PROFESSOR. If we land him HART is the MAN! We land him I bet Saban leaves Alabama not long after and Muschamp starts feeling the heat. NO MORE LOSING TO FLORIDA and ALABAMA the Professor very good at beating his major rivals. GOVOLS!!! I welcome Jim Tressel with nothing but a giant smile on my face.
in response to CMKSIDESHOW:
AMEN to that, I'm all for the PROFESSOR. If we land him HART is the MAN! We land him I bet Saban leaves Alabama not long after and Muschamp starts feeling the heat. NO MORE LOSING TO FLORIDA and ALABAMA the Professor very good at beating his major rivals. GOVOLS!!! I welcome Jim Tressel with nothing but a giant smile on my face.
Funny! With only one exception during the Tressel years, he always lost to the SEC. Good luck with that getting him and never losing to Alabama or Florida again.
in response to pcshowtime: Pay the assistants as much as need be that is how you recruit to UT good assistants recruiting. Dave hart do not fudge this up. I am a vol fan trapped in bama and I can tell you this feels so much like when they hired saban. be our coach? NO be our coach? no be our coach? Yes. I can also tell you bama fans fear this hire like one booster said on the radio what 18 yr old does not want to play for gruden. I want this hire to happen where I can call Finebaum and tell him he does know a darn thing and he was wrong.
in response to pcshowtime:
Pay the assistants as much as need be that is how you recruit to UT good assistants recruiting. Dave hart do not fudge this up.
I am a vol fan trapped in bama and I can tell you this feels so much like when they hired saban. be our coach? NO be our coach? no be our coach? Yes. I can also tell you bama fans fear this hire like one booster said on the radio what 18 yr old does not want to play for gruden. I want this hire to happen where
I can call Finebaum and tell him he does know a darn thing and he was wrong.
I can assure you that Bama fans aren't worried about the hire.
in response to SavTnVol: word on tv news this am was that Arkanses is going after Les Miles. Why no reporting on that? Any thruth to it KNS?
word on tv news this am was that Arkanses is going after Les Miles. Why no reporting on that? Any thruth to it KNS?
Although there is decent talent to recruit in Arkansas, it does not compare with Louisiana. Les Miles turned down his alma mater, Michigan, two years ago, so why would he move to Arkansas? He's not. These rumors run wild. Bob Stoops nor Jimbo Fisher are coming to Knoxville either. Petrino is a super offensive coach, but he has never fielded decent defensive teams...and he leaves every job in trouble with the university and/or the NCAA. Good realistic hires, Fedora, Patterson (but he won't leave TCU at this time), Davis at Cincinnati, and the guy at Western Ky. He has fielded a very competitive team and with the talent Tennessee can get versus W.KY, he could be a good find. Tedford from Cal has no experience recruiting in the South. Petersen isn't leaving Boise St either. A real catch was Texas A&M getting Houston's coach.
in response to HopeisNotaCourseofAction: Let's go AD, you have competition for the best available. But this is TENNESSEE, we deserve the best. Get it right and let's have a big announcement just before the SEC CG to steal some limelight from that event and get us off to jump start on our recruiting!
in response to HopeisNotaCourseofAction:
Let's go AD, you have competition for the best available. But this is TENNESSEE, we deserve the best.
Get it right and let's have a big announcement just before the SEC CG to steal some limelight from that event and get us off to jump start on our recruiting!
Doubt anyone is nationally or intra-SEC gives a hoot about your coaching story that would steal any limelight on the SEC Championship. Good luck with that! You need to be more concerned competing with Arkansas and Auburn who have fertile recruiting grounds for recruits than stealing anyone's limelight.
in response to VolFanInTheBoro: Saban is there for the money
in response to VolFanInTheBoro:
Saban is there for the money
Nick Saban isn't moving. It's not ALL about the money. It involves freedom to run his own program, a fan base that supports him, a college town where his wife loves to live, tradition, plenty of in-state recruits, and more. You could throw 8 million a year at him and he wouldn't come. He has made it clear that he will retire from Alabama...and you can count on it.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Absolutely, Saban runs the pro-set and Gruden knows what to do to shut it down NFL style. Also, once Gruden gets his name out there 4 star athletes will flock to him guaranteeing UT will have quality athletes to compete with..
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:
Absolutely, Saban runs the pro-set and Gruden knows what to do to shut it down NFL style. Also, once Gruden gets his name out there 4 star athletes will flock to him guaranteeing UT will have quality athletes to compete with..
Bring him on. No one is afraid of Gruden getting the job.
in response to jplemons80: There is one name that I'm surprised I haven't heard. Nick Saban. Before you call me crazy, think about this. Nick Saban has recently said in an interview that he would rather build a program, than maintain one. That is what he is doing now at Alabama. He and Hart are on good terms with each other. And lastly, his wife hates living in Alabama. I know it's a long shot, but it's still a shot.
in response to jplemons80:
There is one name that I'm surprised I haven't heard. Nick Saban. Before you call me crazy, think about this. Nick Saban has recently said in an interview that he would rather build a program, than maintain one. That is what he is doing now at Alabama. He and Hart are on good terms with each other. And lastly, his wife hates living in Alabama. I know it's a long shot, but it's still a shot.
You are completely misinformed. Terry Saban loves Tuscaloosa. Loves it. Nick is under contract through 2019 and has no intentions of coaching anywhere but BAMA and might extend beyond that. Wherever you got your info, it is wrong. Go ahead and offer. You'll find out very quickly.
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