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in response to SummerfieldVol: It is called can't handle the pressure. When going get tuff the tuff gets going applies to her. She just can't handle it.
in response to SummerfieldVol:
It is called can't handle the pressure. When going get tuff the tuff gets going applies to her. She just can't handle it.
Simmons was a Junior this year. I agree with you about her not able to cope with the pressure. I would hope the coaches will find someone in Sports Psychology to help. She could be the POY next year if she could play as well in the higher pressure games as in others.
in response to vol98champ: As Jack Buck once said, I can't believe what I just saw". No, I'm not talking about the Baylor loss. I'm talking about the officiating.
in response to vol98champ:
As Jack Buck once said, I can't believe what I just saw". No, I'm not talking about the Baylor loss. I'm talking about the officiating.
The most ridiculous and Bad call the whole game was the double technical called with about 6:05 left. The ball was thrown in and was already down the court when, with Schimmel starting to follow down court and just inside the end line, Sims got in her face and stayed there impeding her progress instead of retreating to where the play was. On the charge against Baylor at the 16.7 mark, the replay seemed to verify they got the call right that time. Overall I felt the refs favored Baylor but maybe its because I was pulling for Dayton.
in response to voloffaith: Glad to see dc82 being a lil compassionate. The story was telling how the season has gone for OUR next OPPONENT. So it was relevant to hear and read about their strengths and their weaknesses. Shows their toughness and tenacity to have played through their injuries as OUR Lady Vols have done as well. We knew ewe would get it "SOONER" or later.....
in response to voloffaith:
Glad to see dc82 being a lil compassionate. The story was telling how the season has gone for OUR next OPPONENT. So it was relevant to hear and read about their strengths and their weaknesses. Shows their toughness and tenacity to have played through their injuries as OUR Lady Vols have done as well. We knew ewe would get it "SOONER" or later.....
Yes, they had their problems. However, I would argue nowhere near the problems The Vols have had. Why?---because look at all the players with at least some experience they had ready for a chance to play, whereas Tenn was left with a very short bench. So many freshmen in key rolls.
The Vols need for Harrison in this game will be greater than prior games. Oklahoma has a 6'3 and 6'6 player as well as the hot shooting guard. They also have a home crowd as it is only 25 minutes (or if heavy traffic 35)from their home court to Chesapeake Energy Arena in Oklahoma City. Their 6'6 player is slim but Vols players are not that heavy either.
in response to ps11824: Wow! All I can say is 'thank you KW.' Where have you been for the last 4 years? Never mind, I know. You save your best for last. Really last.46% FG 60% 3PT good enough to win most games.
in response to ps11824:
Wow! All I can say is 'thank you KW.' Where have you been for the last 4 years? Never mind, I know. You save your best for last. Really last.46% FG 60% 3PT good enough to win most games.
So far this year, anytime KW has been on the floor, she has shown very good basketball skill. I've enjoyed her play all year.
Harrison didn't play against Mizzou on the road. After the easy win in Knoxville, Tenn would have struggled some anyway but most likely would have won with her playing. Against Creighton I don't see Tenn having as much of a problem with or without Harrison, although The Lady Vols don't have as many players with near as much experience.
in response to emailnodata: I hate to say this.....ORU is getting jobbed by the refs in this game. I don't like to see that kind of cr@p no matter who is playing.
in response to emailnodata:
I hate to say this.....ORU is getting jobbed by the refs in this game.
I don't like to see that kind of cr@p no matter who is playing.
Early in the game, twice straight I saw a Vol get slapped on the wrists causing the ball to go out of bounds & ruled ORU's ball. I think it was just very poor officiating in this game or maybe the fouls against ORU were just make up calls by a ref other than Jules Gallien.
in response to fake_basketball: Is she afraid of UCONN too?
in response to fake_basketball:
Is she afraid of UCONN too?
If (important) Izzy can get completely healthy, I would be overjoyed to see The Vols play Uconn. Why should any Tenn player be afraid of UConn especially since Tenn Lady Vols BEAT UConn the last Three times they played? Two of those games were in Connecticut and middle one in Tennessee, all since 2005, NOT last century.
in response to maxvolfan#217855: I'm surprised we got a two but that's what a hard schedule does for you. Kinda bittersweet for me. I would have preferred a #3 seed in the same bracket as ND and Duke. I think it would be a tough task but both teams I think we could beat. Beating Baylor will be a miracle.
in response to maxvolfan#217855:
I'm surprised we got a two but that's what a hard schedule does for you. Kinda bittersweet for me. I would have preferred a #3 seed in the same bracket as ND and Duke. I think it would be a tough task but both teams I think we could beat. Beating Baylor will be a miracle.
The first problem is to win 3 games to get to Baylor. If the top seeds win after the 1st two games, then I agree Tenn might have a better chance getting to the final 4 as a 3 seed. However, as it is, they may now be more likely to make it as far as the elite 8 than if they had to go through Duke.
in response to johnlg00: I just bought that book today so I would have it to read while watching the NCAA tourneys. Holly is right where she was destined to be, doing the thing she can't live without. The next great era of Lady Vol basketball is just around the corner! Still a lot to look forward to THIS season as well! GO LVs!!! GO HOLLY!!!
in response to johnlg00:
I just bought that book today so I would have it to read while watching the NCAA tourneys. Holly is right where she was destined to be, doing the thing she can't live without. The next great era of Lady Vol basketball is just around the corner! Still a lot to look forward to THIS season as well! GO LVs!!! GO HOLLY!!!
One thing about being as old as I am, I got to enjoy Pat's entire career as Head Coach plus at least the beginning of this next great era of Lady Vol basketball. I've also sure enjoyed my 2nd favorite team -- Tenn-Chattanooga this year. I worked with Coach Moore's beauty queen wife for a while. Great people!
Instead of Spani getting a lot of credit for a Vol win, Simmons, great at times, couldn't hit and at least twice had the ball flicked away and stolen during a drive towards the basket. Ariel having the ball taken away by a single defender in open court hurt. This team is just not mature and tough nor do they have enough killer instinct to win like they should.
Hope the Lady Vols don't look past their Saturday game against most likely either SC or A&M. Ky may have a tough game Sat. also.
in response to emailnodata: @theo;Know what is a bit ironic?? the LV's COULD end up playing UConn. Know who we could really use in such a game??One....Faith Dupre. Another player I wish we'd kept was Lauren Avant. I think both would have thrived with Holly. Interesting how things turn out.
@theo;Know what is a bit ironic??
the LV's COULD end up playing UConn. Know who we could really use in such a game??One....Faith Dupre. Another player I wish we'd kept was Lauren Avant. I think both would have thrived with Holly.
Interesting how things turn out.
Faith Dupree started out ok at Chattanooga but Ashlen Dewart got lots of minutes. I think Dupree was hurt in the 3rd game. I don't think she played again until about the 15th game of the season. I could be wrong about that but in the last thirteen games she has played from a low of 4 min to a high of 14 minutes in any game. Chattanooga won the Southern Conf and Dewart was Player-of-the Week.
Spani calls this "the most competitive and most preserving" team..... I bet the AP Sports Writer, Steve Megargee, Misquoted her. She probably told him "persevering". A little difference there.
Holly, being a Harley rider, is not a "Mulkey" type nor is she a reserved motherly type. As long as the Vols keep wining, I'll support her coaching style.
in response to SoddyVol: Does a tiebreaker for regular season champion exist? If so and all the 13-2 teams win out, then The Vols would have to win at least one of their last two games to Guarantee the Championship. There are circumstances where Ga could still win it since they beat Ky.
in response to SoddyVol:
Does a tiebreaker for regular season champion exist? If so and all the 13-2 teams win out, then The Vols would have to win at least one of their last two games to Guarantee the Championship. There are circumstances where Ga could still win it since they beat Ky.
Meant 11-2 teams (If they win out they would be 13-2)
Maybe Simmons didn't overlook Ark but the team as a whole no doubt had A&M and Ky on their minds before their terrible first half. Graves ended up with 11 points and 9 rebounds but I really expected a little more than 4 points from the floor. Now, beat A&M to be SEC champs or if Vandy can beat A&M, they could win one of the last two and be Champs.
Ark lost big to Ga. at Ga. I'm sure playing at home they will have much more "want to win" against The Vols. A healthy Harrison would make things much easier for the Vols but as long as they continue to play defense like the last game, they will do fine. I expect Graves to have a much better game Sunday. She and Burdick should produce some good points inside.
Glad to see Ariel have a great game. 10 AST with just 2 TOs. JJ getting hit in the face kept her minutes down. I was expecting her to get a lot more needed experience.
in response to johnlg00: I seriously doubt she will be back this year. Her absence magnifies the defensive problems we have seen for some time now. I'm not sure UT was a Final Four team even with her, but I give them no chance to make it now. That's OK; they have had a good season and gotten good experience for ladies who will be stars for years to come, especially Bashaara and JJ.
I seriously doubt she will be back this year. Her absence magnifies the defensive problems we have seen for some time now. I'm not sure UT was a Final Four team even with her, but I give them no chance to make it now. That's OK; they have had a good season and gotten good experience for ladies who will be stars for years to come, especially Bashaara and JJ.
I agree a final 4 is doubtful. With a good seed, they could make the Elite 8.
The next two weeks are going to be very interesting. I expect the Vols to take care of Auburn in Knoxville but am a little concerned about the trip to Ark. They should be able to handle A&M in Knoxville as long as they play smart, alert defense and use their heads when passing the ball. They have the talent as long as no more injuries happen. I doubt they will have any trouble looking ahead to Ky. Win the games up to March 3 and the game in Lexington, with a sold out crowd, should have a lot of emotion. Win out and a 2 seed in the tourney is very possible. If the unthinkable were to happen and they lose to Ark plus another game or two and who knows where they might end up. I know they have the talent to win the SEC if they keep the right mental attitude.
in response to Volinflan: What are you talking about? I just watchedthe game on ESPN. Chattanooga area, cable.
in response to Volinflan:
What are you talking about? I just watchedthe game on ESPN. Chattanooga area, cable.
They carried terpettes vs. cavalierettes up until tip off of Vols game then switched to Vols game.
Before I get hammered. I do know how to spell "steal". That is just one of many mistakes I'm capable of making.
The first half I thought they had decided to not wait until after this game to take a needed break from competition. Fortunately Simmons, Graves, & Williams play for the Vols. Most all Vols shot the ball well when not letting Ole Miss get the 13 steels.
As expected, the bench got more greatly needed playing time. The play of Jones and Moore both looks promising. You could see the improvement in Moore as the game progressed. After the break, the schedule is very tough so Ladies, get a little rest and be ready for Vandy next week.
in response to Volinflan: Someone that knows more than I do correct me. I can take it. I believe that there is a team of commentators that are sort of resident in locations that hire out to smaller broadcasters such as CSS or ESPN3. Go to Georgia and watch/listen to a ESPN3 broadcast of a game done in Knoxville. It'll sound a lot like a home court advantage. You'll see the same with CSS broadcasts. Shoot the TV people were not nearly as one sided as Mickey Dearstone is. But yea, I suspect they were based in LA.
Someone that knows more than I do correct me. I can take it. I believe that there is a team of commentators that are sort of resident in locations that hire out to smaller broadcasters such as CSS or ESPN3. Go to Georgia and watch/listen to a ESPN3 broadcast of a game done in Knoxville. It'll sound a lot like a home court advantage. You'll see the same with CSS broadcasts. Shoot the TV people were not nearly as one sided as Mickey Dearstone is. But yea, I suspect they were based in LA.
Mickey Dearstone broadcasts FOR the Lady Vols. One would expected him to be for the Vols. The CSS or ESPN people should make an effort to be as neutral as they can be.
Great that they won but I have to gripe some because it was maddening. They get a few points ahead and throw the ball away or have other sloppy turnovers. Ariel had 5 TOs. Then they miss too many free throws.
Now, I must also say I appreciate the effort by all the players. Graves had to work inside against players 3 or so inches taller and somehow got the last shot up between two of them and made it.
As far as coaching goes, Caldwell trying to run out the clock with fouls (If that was what she was doing) backfired on LSU. The clock just didn’t run fast enough for her. .. Anyway I had a hard time enjoying the game because of getting upset with so many stupid turnovers by the Vols.. . I was hoping for a game with enough lead to get Phillips and Moore in for some experience. Maybe next game.
Graves has the mental attitude that's needed but missing from too many basketball players. Along with having great BB aptitude, this makes her extremely valuable to the team.
Watching this game, I continued to be glad they were playing Miss State. They really needed a game where they had a chance to see what they can do, and will have to do, in replacing Harrison.
My young granddaughter said "That number 4 is a cool player", whatever that means? I think Kamikos problems started right to begin with. She may have thought she knew better how to play than the coaches. (Maybe with some urging from her dad, or so it was reported at the time.
Last year Baugh played hurt, now Harrison. Having Jones and soon Burdick back still gives some hope.
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They let Izzy leaving the game bother them too much. Izzy contributed while in the game but she was hurting. A healthy Izzy would have made a huge difference, but with her hurting they may have done better if she hadn't played this game at all.
. .richvol writes: ...Geno or Muffet would have this team undefeated."
Nonsense! Those two have had many years to develop their teams. Geno went 12-15 his first year as Head Coach at UConn (losing record), then went 14-13 his second year. It took him his 6th (Sixth) year to get past the second round. That after he had worked as an assistant coach, the most prominent position being at Univ of Va.
I can see a lot of improvement in the way the team plays but once bad habits are formed, it’s difficult to overcome. The Vols have to play Ky in Lexington. I fully expect them to have more confidence in themselves than they had against ND. With Izzy hurt and Burdick still out or at least not playing for a while, the rest of the team better be on top of their game.
Just like the Stanford game. Once the Lady Vols decided to play serious defense, Stanford had to fight for their lives to maintain their lead. ND had to do the same. Diggins had to rescue them, and yes she does get away with more use of her arms against her defender than most anyone.
Love the team, and love the staff! A top SEC team that will within two years (maybe sooner) be in the Final Four. Coach has them playing more like the Head Coach is in her 2nd or 3rd year instead of just her first. Only a year since Vols went to the Elite 8 and they won’t go more than one year without going that far again. The sooner, the better. I expect either a regular season or a tournament championship in the SEC this year. I have confidence they can do it – just hope the players keep up theirs..
Could a healthy Burdick have been the leader on the floor the team needs? Just a sophomore but I believe she might have made a difference in keeping up the Vols confidence during the game. Missed layups and some shots thrown might have been better shots with more confidence.
Some of the sour looks Izzy was giving in the prior couple of games must have been from knee pain. Izzy tried and they may have lost anyway but she wasn't healthy from the start. They are just missing too many of the better players.
Simmons and Spani should try to imagine strong opponents to be a weaker SEC team. Maybe then they could have a good game.
A players reputation certainly does affect the way fouls are called.
98reax; You are correct that Diggins gets away with a lot of fouls that aren't called and questionable calls go her way. The Vols have a couple of players who could do a good job guarding her except for those facts. As for BG, she is not a sweet girl. She gets a lot of clean blocks but isn't all that innocent either.
in response to Volinflan: So, if we win out including ND do we get a One seed? Of course there's still the SEC tournament and it's gonna be a bugger boo with 14 teams.
So, if we win out including ND do we get a One seed? Of course there's still the SEC tournament and it's gonna be a bugger boo with 14 teams.
Nothing is guaranteed and they would probably need help with a couple of teams losing again, like Duke & Cal, or Stanford. Most likely a 2 seed if they can beat A&M and Ky. plus do well in the SEC tourney.
in response to emailnodata: Holly-ball continues. Did you notice how hard UT tried to work the ball in the posts?? That was a good win last night.
Holly-ball continues.
Did you notice how hard UT tried to work the ball in the posts??
That was a good win last night.
I did notice they got the ball inside but our posts were swarmed upon and had a hard time protecting the ball from all those arms. The one time I saw them pass the ball back outside, it resulted if Vols points. The blocks called with Izzy and Graves trying for a layup got a comment from Mickey about the blocks coming from behind. (Watching while listening to Mickey told what happened before seeing it on TV with all the delay)
in response to maxvolfan#217855: A lot of watercooler talk until Monday. Here's my take. This game against ND will be just another measuring stick on how well we can play come tourney time. I will be happy with a win , but I wouldn't be disappointed if we lose by 8 or less. That would prove we can compete. Not sure how we would stop Griner and co. One game at a time. Key games TXAM and UK . We win out even with a loss to ND I think we can squeeze a #2 seed .
A lot of watercooler talk until Monday. Here's my take. This game against ND will be just another measuring stick on how well we can play come tourney time. I will be happy with a win , but I wouldn't be disappointed if we lose by 8 or less. That would prove we can compete. Not sure how we would stop Griner and co. One game at a time. Key games TXAM and UK . We win out even with a loss to ND I think we can squeeze a #2 seed .
I believe you are correct on all counts. If Vols beat all but ND, they should easily be a two seed. Win all the remaining reg season games including ND and who knows? At the very least they are no lower than a 3 seed in any case.
I don't want to see elbows flying but sure wish Izzy would develop more of a "Glory J" attitude and play. Hope she toughens up and not let opponents get her down. I enjoy watching her play but she has much more potential. Maybe another pound or two would help.
Eight blocks by Vandy. Their inside players are so tall and have such long arms they were able to get clean blocks several times even when coming over the Vols from behind. Just looked curious to me. Then again, the game was played in Nashville.
VU home court always makes it tough on visitors. They haven't lost at home so far this year. The younger Vols are in for a different experience mainly because of the placement of team benches. I assume they are still at each end of the court. The Vols are by far the best team but must come to play 40 minutes.
in response to Volinflan: Yes us Volniacs would love to see such an update article. So is Butts "The coach at Arizona" or one of the coaches?
Yes us Volniacs would love to see such an update article. So is Butts "The coach at Arizona" or one of the coaches?
Niya Butts is Head Coach at Arizona. She was a very smart student and played(off the bench) at Tenn. during National Championship years, '97 & '98.
in response to johnlg00: The old saying that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar goes back much further than that. I've heard it said that a coaching essential is to know which players need a pat on the back and which ones need a kick in the butt. Along the same lines, a coach needs to understand the circumstances when EACH individual needs which kind of treatment.
The old saying that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar goes back much further than that. I've heard it said that a coaching essential is to know which players need a pat on the back and which ones need a kick in the butt. Along the same lines, a coach needs to understand the circumstances when EACH individual needs which kind of treatment.
Exactly! I had one son who tried that much harder to not disappoint when given a pat on the back. I had another who would take advantage of me if he thought the situation didn't bother me too awful much.
in response to SummittsCourt: Win by 27 and still the critics come out to complain. Congrats Lady Vols for a great team win on "We Back Pat" day.
in response to SummittsCourt:
Win by 27 and still the critics come out to complain.
Congrats Lady Vols for a great team win on "We Back Pat" day.
I've given plenty of praise lately. Guess their play in Fla & Aub makes me worry. Especially seeing Vandy, Ky, and ND just ahead.
My wife complains I am a perfectionist. I think I just want them to go undefeated and wouldn’t say anything if I didn’t think it possible. I know the Vols play defense called for by the coaches and are young, but it seems to me when having trouble on defense, they require a little more coaching than some to correct the problem. They are very smart persons, just need to use their head. I appreciate the fact that at least they are talented enough to overcome any flaws when playing most anyone.
One other thing that concerns me, with some tougher games coming up, is the unforced turnovers caused by passing into traffic with no clear opening. This happens most often early in the game. Vols, please come out ready from the tip off
The most important play of the whole game was left out of the video, that being the steal an 3 point play by Simmons. That play, with its emotional effect, made Tenn the winner.
in response to chaos001: I didn't understand the cross-court passes at all. Someone should've come to the ball and cut the distance in half.
in response to chaos001:
I didn't understand the cross-court passes at all. Someone should've come to the ball and cut the distance in half.
I felt the same. Most of those passes should have never been necessary. That was my biggest complaint next to not being able to react quickly enough early in the game to their sticky defense.
The Auburn players inside are big but it sure looked to me they fouled Izzy and Graves a lot instead of getting clean blocks. The no calls affected Izzy so much she threw the ball all the way over the basket twice when it should have been points.
The Vols seem to be in pretty good shape, playing hard late in the game. This win belongs to Simmons more than anyone. Her steal from the quick-as-a-bullet 5'-1 guard and resulting 3 point play turned the game to favor The Vols.
in response to voloffaith: They missed the best one ,IMHO, with Taber's no look pass for a bucket..........
They missed the best one ,IMHO, with Taber's no look pass for a bucket..........
We saw that several years ago with one or two Lady Vols. I can't remember the players. It's something that's very entertaining when they are playing good and winning and can pass without turning it over. (Just don't get Over confident).
It all has to do with the Intelligence and perhaps Bias of the programmer. Like another poster said, Garbage in -- Garbage out. I saw a lot of that before retiring with 53 years as computer tech.
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