Comments by VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive)

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Points for you to ponder:

a. You have no idea why I am doing what I am doing, obviously. You are certainly not The Almighty, who is the only one who does. You do not understand,; as proved by your comment that my concerns are not "legitimate questions. “

b. I am not "dude." Stop condescending: you are neither qualified to condescend, nor very good at it.

c. I assure you that I know a little something about both media and PR, including media contracts negotiations. You are on your tu-tu in most of what you posted about these:

Exampe: Jones' comment in a news conference that he is hiring the "best staff in America" is not a P.R. misstep? Then he brings in a staff from UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI??? Be serious. (Hopefully you were not when you said he had not made a P.R. misstep.)

He has made more than a few. Some things he does well. His mistakes are being papered over, because the press corps is trying to help him sell UT. They are irrelevant if it continues as it is--- Knoxville paper, TV/Radio and websites. Regional reporters are on the bandwagon, too; they do not like being afterthoughts nationally, either.

d. Recruiting looks good because Jones has backing of the lettermen, in a year where 16 prospects are high 3* to 4*. Maybe three to five will wind up being 5*athletes and are legacies or have strong Tennessee ties. Screw up and miss a once in a generation opportunity for Tennessee.

Like it or not, it came about because Fulmer and others ( Wilson and Manning, et al) know if Jones did not succeed, UT Athletics will dead for another 10 years---which could effectively bankrupt the Athletics Department ( trends in ticket sales, attendance, etc

There is SEC pressure. (ABC/ESPN will not continue to show 1/3 empty stadiums the size of UT's and continue paying the SEC the kind of money it is. After Hamilton, the commissioner's office is tired of UT's long run of athletics violations, incompetence, dissension and embarrassing the conference. One way to be glad for Auburn’s diverting attention. Slive was going to turn up the heat a notch if UT did not stop the slide; he needs a vibrant UT to make that deal work properly. Half-full Neyland stadium and bad UT teams destroy potential national broadcasts.

Two to four of the "best staff in America," will need to change. They are proving they cannot recruit at SEC caliber.

Lettermen are Jones' ticket to recruiting---pure and simple. They believe with help Jones may be competent, and have to make him competent. Their alma mater will lose what they built, if he fails.

If Jones makes it, somebody needs to give those lettermen (and Fulmer) credit for going to the edge of saying everything they can say in his behalf. They risk their credibility doing so but have no choice..

Kind of ironic that you point out that we do not know if he can coach at the SEC level. Maybe you don't think that’s a legitimate question.

(Isn't that where you came in?)

Dude
I have an idea why you are doing what you are doing. You are a pompous arrogant self absorbed arse

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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If you feel so blessed Dooley is gone why don't you quit obsessing about him

Written on Vanderbilt coach James Franklin says 'people are offended' that he stands up for his school:

in response to SevenT:

Franklin reminds me of Red Sanders who left Vanderbilt for UCLA

The cream rises to the top. So does the scum. Guess which one you are?

Written on Auriemma ties Summitt with 8th title as UConn crushes Louisville, 93-60:

in response to Biggie:

Yeah maybe, but he's still a dick

so is Mike_in_Storrs

Written on Auriemma ties Summitt with 8th title as UConn crushes Louisville, 93-60:

in response to Biff_Boffo:

Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance. Lady Vol fans still in denial that their beloved program is dying.

Biff_Buffoon congrats to UConn. The Lady Vols made it to the elite 8 and have the top player coming in next year. Far from a dying program

Written on Vols tinker with offensive line:

in response to VolzsFan:

10+ wins????

little zz, you are a piece of scum

Written on Tennessee football team's morning wake-up: Baby crying, siren wailing among sound effects:

in response to VolzsFan:

Sarcasm....seriously. You did not know that. We are looking at about 5 wins again. Enjoy the change.

The z in your user name tells me all I need to know about you

Written on Vols' defense carries the day at Neyland Stadium scrimmage:

in response to Geofffourmyle:

C'mon.

"Shut up and get behind the 'one day soon to be successful' Derek Dooley" was a constant refrain on GVX for waaaaaaay too long.

What is amazing is how some of the Dooley worshippers go merrily along the way as if they hadn't been shown by events the for complete idiots they were.

Walt

UT '81

Ok you were right. Good grief can you, Revolution aka Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner aka 45reVOLver and all your other cronies now give it a rest about Dooley. We realize he couldn't coach. We should now be supporting CBJ and the Vols until such time he turns out to be another Dooley. From the looks of things right now that isn't going to happen.

Written on Vols' defense carries the day at Neyland Stadium scrimmage:

in response to REVOLUTION:

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You may not be Flowers but one of your other user names is obviously Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner and used to be 45ReVOLver

Written on Vols' defense carries the day at Neyland Stadium scrimmage:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Golfman, Reese Hall, Monstermd, Pingkr62, Runman,
and Naval Oranges:

What do all you fellows have in commen? Well, IMO you are dedicated fans for the Big Orange. I like being in your compamy.

Now, how many trolls side with the infamous "VolAlumnus" as if he is the only one to ever achieve that designation. Well, obviously that little band of brothers is fortunately few.
Wilted Flowers and the 'troll Revolution'

There are very worthy Vol alumni..........( Karl Kremser and Glenn Ford ring a bell Jeffery? )
But aside from the worthy alumni, there is the other group, the whiny cry babies.

- Can't wait for the games where the Vols surprise some people........and then the comments certain to follow from the trolls.

Alec Baldwin? Priceless.

The troll Revolution is more than likely 45reVolver. 45reVolver has closed his account. Maybe another of Jeffy's user names

Written on With coaches on sidelines, UT defense will be pushed toward 'accountability' in scrimmage:

in response to SevenT:

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D-Bag I had to google The carousel to find out what it is. Not surprised you would know about it

Written on ESPN levels new set of allegations against already-embattled Auburn:

in response to RollTideJoe:

Gee, Alabama has had no major NCAA infractions in three years you allude to. Want to discuss Bruce Pearl and your baseball coach and if Kiffin had stayed you could add football to the list?

go to a gump site troll

Written on With coaches on sidelines, UT defense will be pushed toward 'accountability' in scrimmage:

in response to SevenT:

Can't wait until Saturday........you must lead a pretty boring life

Just Saying

Your comment is hilarious considering how much you troll this site d-bag
lock that up

Written on Report: Former Auburn players detail payments, academic fraud, drug culture, criminal cover-ups:

in response to 700Nitro:

Being the most successful football program in SEC history tends to make rivals fans feel that way.

so does the fact that their bandwagon jumping fans are jerks, i.e. rtrchatterbox

Written on Report: Former Auburn players detail payments, academic fraud, drug culture, criminal cover-ups:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Yourself, Walt, 45, Dwayne, VolzsFan, Toddy, Hapless, all the people you mentioned are more than likely the same pot stirring person

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols ran out of comebacks:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Oh boy, here we go again. Dooley blah blah blah, orange pants blah blah blah, Bama Hart blah blah blah, Fulmer Hall of Famer blah blah blah, I'm a UT alum blah blah blah, sunshine pumpers blah blah blah

Written on 'Test of maturity' coming on how UT football players used their spring break:

in response to VolzsFan:

I for one am really enjoying the change. Retro back to pre 1990 UT football. So nice. Thanks Hammy!!! You da man.

What does Hammy have to do with CBJ?

Written on David Climer: Butch Jones shows moxie Tennessee Vols need:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Maybe you can someday rise to middle of the pack as a human being

Written on Butch Jones says of event countering Nick Saban: 'I'll do anything in Tennessee':

in response to KnoxVegas88:

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KnoxVegas
Little Jeffy never even lettered in football at UT. He knows nothing about football. He is a Dooley obsessed demented pot stirrer. He has lived in Richmonds shadow all his life. It has affected his psyche.

Written on Former Vol Eric Westmoreland arrested for drugs:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Ha ha an article about Westmoreland and you bring up Dooley. He is really in your head. Wow! and you call 99% of the folks on this site losers. You are obviously the mentally ill loser

Written on Butch Jones says of event countering Nick Saban: 'I'll do anything in Tennessee':

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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ha ha. You don't know me. you don't know if I'm a UT alum or not. You obviously never served in our armed forces. I realize you're just on here posting your babble to get hits for this site but your pompous, self importance is hilarious.

Written on Butch Jones says of event countering Nick Saban: 'I'll do anything in Tennessee':

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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I don't know what is more comical. Your Dooley obsession or the fact that you refer to Pat Summitt as Trish, like you actually know her. Your paranoid schizophrenia is hilarious.

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

are you Bob Gilbert?

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I love the revisionist history that some of the posters engage in whenever we have a coach leave. "We're better off without him." "The new coach (no matter who that person is) is an upgrade." "We don't want him if he doesn't want to be here."

A year ago, when Graham was hired, you guys who are criticizing him were crowing like roosters on a pile of dung:

"Oh Lawdy! Jay Graham is here to save the day! Derek Dooley done hired him a superstar and he's a REAL Vol for life. Ooooh child, we gonna be back!"

Now you're the same ones claiming that he's mediocre and that Gillespie, who has never developed a talent anywhere close to Marcus Latimore, is an upgrade.

Ya'll kill me. Monte Kiffin was better than Chief. Dooley was an upgrade over Kiffin. Sal Sunseri was the GREATEST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE HISTORY OF COORDINATION. And most of you think that Butch Davis is one recruiting class away from winning the British Open and the BCS Championship simultaneously because "he wants to be here."

SummittsCourt, you've raised this to an art form:

"Sunseri, Graham, and Pittman... When Dooley has the time and the opportunity to do a thorough job he can hire the best coaches." -Jan. 13, 2012

"Jay Graham was a good hire because he is a great RB coach and recuiter, not because he is a former Vol player." -June 30, 2012

"Good, my only complaint is that [Graham] waited this long to leave. He wasn't all that as a recruiter anyway." -Feb 25, 2013

(I mean...c'mon. Even you have to admit that that is pretty amazing. It's like watching a mental train switch tracks because the light changed color.)

Why can't everyone just admit that Graham was a good coach? Gillespie is an unknown. We'll see what he can do, maybe he's better, but he is probably a downgrade at that position. No harm saying that. It's just reality. Try it, you might like it.

It's Coach Butch Jones not Davis

Written on Alabama hires Bill Battle as athletic director:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Good grief why don't you give it a rest. Not one person posted anything about supporting Hart. Your Dooley/Hart obsession is ridiculous. Obvious you are a gump on here only to stir the pot

Written on Alabama hires Bill Battle as athletic director:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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The Vols have a fireman to put out that dumpster fire. Coach Butch Jones !!

Written on University of Alabama president to recommend hiring of Bill Battle as new athletics director:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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wow you actually made a post without mentioning Dooley. Have you been getting counseling for your obsession

Written on Tennessee opens spring football with rapid adjustment to Butch Jones' style:

in response to SevenT:

I am sorry I didn't get a chance to read "heyitsme's" post. I am sure it was offensive, childish and simple minded like most of the posts the UT fans throw up on these threads. I have one question, have they dropped public school education in Tennessee?

Just Saying

Just Saying

KNS why do you allow obvious pot stirrers like this child to post on here? Why is his/her IP address not permanently banned

Written on Butch Jones on 1st Tennessee practice: 'Not where you start, but where you finish' (with photo gallery):

in response to CCLC:

Whatever happened to the orange ceramic dog?

It's in Athens replacing Uga as the new GA mascot
just sayin'

Written on Bobby Majors, Paul Naumoff, Jackie Walker on College Football Hall of Fame ballot:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

I have this comment to make about the idiot............Wilted Flowers. You know, this idiot who, as long as he lives, throws in some comment about Dave Hart and/or Derek Dooley. They were not even part of this conversation, but the troll, with all his sick obsession, will always toss in some sick remarks about them.

Anyway, my comment is this. Back in 2006, I was at the game where Tennessee had as its legends of the game, James "little man " Stewart and Richmond Flowers. At the Volunteer Village, Little Man and Richmond sat, greeting people and signing autographs. I have the autographed handout which was given to the fans, still on my refrigerator. This was the 12:30 Kentucky game.
Anyway, had I known in 2006 what we know now, I would have asked Richmond "what in the heck is wrong with your pathetic brother????????" It would have been interesting to hear the answer.

Orangecounty
If he is actually Richmond's little brother I can understand how being 2nd fiddle to Richmond all his life would make him turn out the way he has. I'm not certain he is Jeff Flowers but at any rate he is one Dooley/Hart obsessed individual

Written on Mike Strange: Plenty left to resolve for Vols, others in last week before SEC tournament :

in response to SummittsCourt:

You must really have no life if you spend this much time on an opponents board being stupid like this. I feel sorry for you. I guess your mommy's basement must feel pretty comfortable to you.

to make it even worse little zz(8isaDbag) is also using one of his other names 9isaJerk

Written on Robert Gillespie hired as Tennessee's new running backs coach:

in response to CCLC:

No... sorry I get so many responses here I can only remember the more definitive ones. But I'm sure you have much to say. I certainly am not one to accept mediocrity out of fear of not doing better, but at some point you have to show some patience and tell the fanbase to suck it up, right? They got what they wanted when they got rid of Fulmer. They got a splashy name as a coach in Lane Kiffin. Giving the fans what they wanted screwed the pooch. And, they continue to let the fans run the program?

As a Georgia fan, I am taking notes, and enjoying the demise of an SEC East rival. Please continue to respond, I'm sure your efforts will be rewarded.

How am I doing Aunt Velma? He started it. Probably a low rent fan from Memphis .... huh?

As a Tennessee fan I don't give a rats butt what you think
just sayin

Written on Mark Wiedmer: Players, fans expecting victories now from Vols:

in response to BrassMonkey:

Nice win from the 3rd row at TBA.

Some of your previous posts.STFU January 9, 2013
8:52 a.m.
Written on Trae Golden slumping as Vols enter SEC competition :
First. Leave it to Coach Martin to coach them down. Stokes has gotten worse the more time he spends with him
January 14, 2013
12:34 p.m.
Written on USC fires basketball coach Kevin O'Neill:
TN needs to follow suit.
January 14, 2013
12:44 p.m.

Written on Vols 'can't be passive' against Kentucky :
First. Just wait. They will be. It is going to be a slaughter. This team is trash like I have said from the start. Martin cannot coach. More interested in Team USA then he ever was in the Vols.

Written on Mark Wiedmer: Players, fans expecting victories now from Vols:

We especially expect victories over the Gators. Death, taxes, Vols beat Gators

Written on Vols land a big one, 64-58, against Florida :

in response to 8inarow:

Who?

I can undestand why you wouldn't know who Maymon is, cause the Vols didn't need him against the Gaytas bwahahahahahahah

Written on Vols land a big one, 64-58, against Florida :

9willbeajerk SevenTisaJerk bwahahahahaha

Written on Fourth overtime Golden for Vols, 93-85:

in response to Samuel_L_Salma_GataBait_HowBoutDemCowboys_BlueWaffles88:

Now for the good news that y'all have been wanting to hear...

Florida- 54
ArkySauce- 37

bluePancakes, no one cares

Written on Fourth overtime Golden for Vols, 93-85:

in response to SevenT:

I doubt the NIT committee will take Tennessee

ha ha scum bag, your ridiculous pot stirring trollness is getting comical

Written on Poll: Which postseason tournament will Tennessee men's basketball play in?:

in response to Samuel_L_Salma_GataBait_HowBoutDemCowboys_BlueWaffles88:

Thanks, sweetheart

;)

Not surprised you would call another man sweetheart. If you are a man

Written on With first class, Butch Jones and staff worked overtime to build relationships :

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Okay...let's look at your goof-ball reasoning.

Cutting to the chase...if we who want better coaches and programs than currently are in place really are like those Bama fans...

then you are saying, implicitly, that this bunch of coaches in place now is as good as Sabin and crew, that everybody wil be pleased with their on-field product---that it will be as productive as Saban's...and that nobody needs to say a word.

Horse Manure. Your reasoning stinks. No wonder you could compliment the guy; both of you are devoid of understanding about football, coaches and organizational development in sports organizations.

Congratulations. One of you can take the day off and the other write posts for both of you. No differenct. Both posts are full of stuff...

Damitman never mentioned Saban or Alabama. He is just saying how about giving CBJ a chance before you start bashing him

Written on Poll: Which postseason tournament will Tennessee men's basketball play in?:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

So cheaters do win? Besides, didn't he lose his last three to Florida as he was being ran out of the game for cheating?

he didn't cheat. he lied

Written on Poll: Which postseason tournament will Tennessee men's basketball play in?:

in response to Samuel_L_Salma_GataBait_HowBoutDemCowboys_BlueWaffles88:

Three in a row over Bruce, VolGirl.

doesn't matter. your user name is still stupid

Written on Poll: Which postseason tournament will Tennessee men's basketball play in?:

in response to cobragolfer:

If they make the NCAA, then somebody has paid BIG MONEY to somebody. They don't even deserve the NIT. Just remember... the winner of the NIT tournament is the best loser of the NCAA!!!! :)

You're the best loser in life

Written on Poll: Which postseason tournament will Tennessee men's basketball play in?:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

Bring back Pearl!

He owned Florida bwahaha

Written on Mike Strange: Is routing Kentucky proof the Vols are ready to surge? :

in response to SevenT:

Calipari walks out of TBA with a WIN every year. This year was a fluke losing Noel and a below average Kentucky team. And a Jacked up team playing above their level simply because the Big Blue is in the house.

Lock That Up

Written on No Noel alters dynamic of Tennessee-Kentucky game :
There are no guarantees in life except Death, Taxes and Kentucky beating Tennessee

88-58 BWAAHAHAHA

Written on Mike Strange: Is routing Kentucky proof the Vols are ready to surge? :

in response to SevenT:

Calipari walks out of TBA with a WIN every year. This year was a fluke losing Noel and a below average Kentucky team. And a Jacked up team playing above their level simply because the Big Blue is in the house.

Lock That Up

Ha ha ha 88-58
Lock that up scum bag

Written on Mike Strange: Is routing Kentucky proof the Vols are ready to surge? :

in response to bigdisbig:

The Florida game will show if the Vols are for real. They have beat no one yet. You can say Ky. was a great win but in reality Ky. is not the Ky. we are all used to seeing. Ky is weak and will do good to win another SEC game without Noel. The games at Texas A&M and Missouri will be very tough. I was impressed with the way they played against the Cats but its the only great game they have played all year long in reality. All you delusional fans can hate on me all you want but I guess YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! LMAO

We hate on you cause you're a Vol hating troll. Can you handle that truth?

Written on Vols blow out Kentucky, 88-58:

in response to VolGrad:

CBJ sitting next to Jalen Hurd at game.
https://twitter.com/Vols_Recruiting/s...

Former Vol Tobias Harris leading the Harlem Shake at TBA.
http://t.co/ZJEzg2oY

Todd Kelly Sr. w/recruits Todd Kelly Jr and Blaise Taylor...
https://twitter.com/BlaiseTaylor1/sta...

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It seems we really made an impression on Cortez McDowell today. B Moore and he seemed to have bonded.

Go Vols!!!

Thanks for the great info about the recruits. GlennFordsFoible will be disappointed in the positive info

Written on Never Better: Vols score biggest victory ever against Kentucky, 88-58 :

in response to bigdisbig:

This is the same Vol team that got beat by Memphis, Ga. and stomped in the dirt by Ole Miss at home and everyone is crowing over beating a weak Ky. team. I still say Cuonzo is a lower level coach who gets lucky every now and then. The guys played a great game today....probably the best of the year in spite of a weak coach.

I still say you are a lower level person

Written on No Noel alters dynamic of Tennessee-Kentucky game :

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Ha ha.. brag about beating a Vandy team that just lost Ezeli, Taylor and Jenkins to the NBA draft plus all 5 starters are gone and Martin almost lost on a last second tipin in Knoxville and UT scored 18 points in the second half in Nashville. Enjoy another NIT without Pearl. Vandy won their opener in Baseball yesterday, how did the Vols do? Vandy ranked in the Top 5 again. UT cant spell Top 5 without Fulmer and Pearl.

you idiot, candy also only scored 18 second half points. brett roberts your youtube videos are hilarious, not even the NIT for the Commode dores

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