Comments by VolinVirginia

Written on John Adams: Dave Hart ahead of schedule with hires:

Wow: looks like "billythekid" and "1percenter" are gone, although it appears he/she is now "1_percenter."

Amazing.....

Written on John Adams: Dave Hart ahead of schedule with hires:

in response to laraccoon:

would that be the prime of ignorance ? its pretty easy to see you came up with a new screen name and replied to yourself , dont you think that is kind of silly ?

Judging by the fact that the user name is in black - not orange - my guess is the staff has had enough and removed the Conspiracy Theorist from the board. Alas, so much for the self-appointed "Truth Squad," huh? Will we

I wonder what the next user name is going to be.......

Written on John Adams: Dave Hart ahead of schedule with hires:

OMG, why are we still discussing Fulmer??

He was three coaches ago.
He got complacent.
He gave us Sanders and Clawsen when Cutcliffe left (twice - for head coaching jobs).
He couldn't get us past the SEC East.
He clearly didn't have what it took to get us to the next level in his latter years.
He soaked the University for MILLIONS in his departure.
He isn't coaching anywhere - despite indications of interest given more than once.

It really is time to move on. Fulmer is gone. Should he have been allowed to finish out his contract? I think so. Would he have still been pushed aside? I think so. At this point it's really speculation, and it doesn't look like he is going to get a coaching job anywhere else.

Actually, I am guessing that he has abandoned his desire to coach and is taking on the task at ETSU to get some experience in a capacity other than a head coach - and I can respect that. Perhaps we will see him again, depending upon how he does with ETSU.

Until then, it's time to turn the page. Was Fulmer discussed in the article above? If not, then he is really an unrelated topic....

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to 1Percenter:

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Wow: do you hear that? It's the sound of everyone on the board still reading along laughing at you....

Interesting choice of words, 1Percenter. It's actually a great slam - and you got me good with that one - but you DO realize that everyone is thinking the same thing: 1Percenter must REALLY be into pantomime if that was what he opted to use as an insult. Stated another way, of all the insults he could hurl, he opted for "perriot." Don't get me wrong: I would never berate anyone for what they enjoy, I just don't think I would reveal it in this particular forum. I guess that it really says more about you than it does about me.......

As for your response to a comment directed at someone else, I find it peculiar that you would reference the fact that he was in the SECCG the year before he was shown the door: that really reinforces my point (made earlier) that Fulmer couldn't get us out of the SEC East. What was the outcome of that game you reference? Did we win? Were we the SEC Champions? You know the answers to those questions, and you reinforced my point. Um... thanks, I guess.

Your comment about me being the reason the team is so horrible is wholly and completely laughable. Go back and check my comment history - I have been using the same screen name for quite a while... I have written more than once that I believe that Fulmer should have been allowed to finish out his contract. That is a matter of record, and it is not debatable. Perhaps next time you will do a little research before looking like a buffoon in such a public forum.

Fulmer is a great guy, and I have written that more than once. But most everyone seems to agree with the notion that the game passed him by. Isn't it interesting that Houston Nutt landed on his feet after being fired? What about Tommy Tuberville? Spurrier went to the pros and was cut loose. He seems to have landed on his feet. Urban Meyer was hired once the word was out that he was back on the market. Charlie Weis got a job that some were claiming that Fulmer was a strong candidate to get. Even Dooley found a job after he was shown the door. I am sure that this fact must sting for all the Fulmer acolytes; nevertheless, it's true.

As for culpability, his complacency is the reason he was ousted. That is precisely why we got Kiffin in the first place. Once Kiffin ran for the door we ended up with the Dooley nightmare. Notice that I used the word culpable - it's not entirely his fault. You DO know the meaning of the word, right?

Despite all this, thanks for making such a spectacle of yourself in this forum. I for one certainly appreciated the laugh. A condescending laugh, but a laugh nonetheless.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to Mama_Also_Calls_Me_Precious:

lets not minimize the ability it takes to be a successful head coach of a once elite football team, which fulmer was for many years. There's a lot of similarities to being a head coach and being the CEO of a successful company. that's one reason I think fulmer would be a good fit as ad. there are more factors obviously, but I don't see anything that would disqualify fulmer from the position. I think if we have yet another ad disaster, I think the call will be deafening for someone with ties to the university to become ad. but your right, you either love fulmer or you hate him. I just don't understand some of the hate.

You didn't read what I wrote, did you?

Was Fulmer a great coach? Prior to his last years, yes. Was Fulmer reluctant to step aside when coaches in the SEC passed him by? Yes. Did he make good hires when Cutcliffe left the team? Nope - bad hires both times. Did he appear to have a course of action when things got bad? Sure didn't seem so. Was he ultimately forced out? Yep. Is he culpable with respect to the current state of the team? He sure is - along with Kiffin and Dooley.

In light of all this, I don't see where this translate to a qualified candidate for AD.

Also, please note that it WAS NOT my assertion that "you either love fulmer or you hate him." Here is my statment again:
"Moreover, a Fulmer acolyte has somehow been so polarized that their love for the University of Tennessee is subordinate to their love for Phil, and anyone who dares to point out the facts is accused of hating him (i.e. no middle ground - you either love him or hate him)."

Billythekid, who is either young or foolish, even validated this observation in his reply to you yesterday @ 12:50 p.m.:
"They hate Fulmer because he indeed won a NC."

Direct challenge: show me where I have stated that I hate Fulmer. The unquestionable reality is that I am just like the rest of the country: I don't care - at this point he is irrelevant. Phil is gone - he was THREE coaches ago. To love or hate him would require an emotional attachment that is more intense that what I have for him. I am amazed that this is apparently the case in your world.

Phil is a good guy, but he's the WRONG guy. Is Hart the answer? Tine will tell. If we make a change, it should be a change.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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Oh, did you reply to me??

Please re-read my post to you from yesterday morning (May 19, 2013 @ 10:34 a.m.):

"If you take the time to respond to me, you need to provide the proof for your assertions."

Simply stated: put up or shut up....

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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Do you have any proof of that? Where can I find evidence of this pledge? Is the pledge in writing, or was it some sort of ceremony? Is there a link where I can read this pledge?

If you take the time to respond to me, you need to provide the proof for your assertions.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to Mama_Also_Calls_Me_Precious:

I hate to burst the bubble of the very few fulmer haters out there, but if the hart experiment doesn't work out, there will be a deafening cry for Phillip fulmer to lead the athletic department. that's a given. there are quite a few powerful people within the administration who quietly would love to see fulmer in this position. Doug dickey was a former coach who ended up having a fantastic run as our ad from 1985 until 2002. those were some of the most successful years and memorable years in Tennessee football. I and many other Tennessee fans would welcome fulmer as ad with open arms!!

So, if I understand you correctly, Fulmer's biggest selling point is that Doug Dickey "had a fantastic run as our ad." So, in other words, his success is measured by the work of others (not unlike those who claim his success as a head coach was largely based on the work of Chavis and Cutcliffe). That is a claim that is as bizarre as the one that Dooley was destined for greatness primarily because of his Father's legacy.

The cry will indeed be deafening - amongst yourselves.

The "very few fulmer haters" statement was par for the course. Sorry, I didn't see this post before I replied to you. I guess you are a Fulmer acolyte......

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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Abject fatuity, nothing more.

BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, that was prior to the hiring of Saban. That is an attempt to use old news to somehow add credence to your desire to have Fulmer return. Again, the last time I checked (in other words, within the last few years), I am not seeing anyone in the Crimson Tide nation calling for his return.

It's time to turn the page.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to Mama_Also_Calls_Me_Precious:

I guess you could call me a "fulmer acolyte" as well. You almost seem to refer to fulmer fans as some kind of low life treasonous trash who can't seem to get over the past. Well for one, fulmer is a huge reason Tennessee was even relevant in college football. I guess you could say majors was a factor too. Secondly, no one on here has even remotely hinted at fulmer being rehired as head coach. I think we all understand that ship has sailed..the blatant disrespect fulmer recieves from "trolls" shows how much disrespect some of the Tennessee fan base has for a man who gave us so many great years of Tennessee football. And I might add he certainly got past the sec east several times AND a national championship that was soley ours. I wouldn't at all mind seeing a statue of fulmer AND majors one day being erected in their honor. They certainly deserve it. oh and far as Philip fulmer not being qualified as athletic director, that's plain phooey. I think we all remember a certain former Tennessee head football coach who had no previous ad experience who later became one of tennessees finest athletic directors. Yes, I'm speaking of Doug dickey. is it a wonder all our troubles started the minute he left? Doug dickey knew what made Tennessee athletics successful and I'm sure fulmer as ad would do the same. just a little food for thought in case little man hart runs into the same kind of trouble he did at fsu and bama. he has already shown his behind with his handling of coach pat summitt, it's only a matter of time before his true colors shine through and somehow I don't think they are in the best interest of Tennessee. with all that said, I'm going to once again throw my support behind our new head coach and hope he is with us for a long time. he seems to want to embrace Tennessee tradition, and for that I give huge respect to the man

There is a difference between liking Fulmer and being a Fulmer acolyte. A Fulmer acolyte is one who, not unlike billythekid, simply cannot accept the fact that Fulmer got complacent, and the league passed him by. A Fulmer acolyte seemingly thinks that Fulmer should be running the UT Athletics Department simply because he loves the school. Moreover, a Fulmer acolyte has somehow been so polarized that their love for the University of Tennessee is subordinate to their love for Phil, and anyone who dares to point out the facts is accused of hating him (i.e. no middle ground - you either love him or hate him).

And NO, Fulmer was NOT getting us past the SEC East. Fulmer had a National Championship in 1998. After that, he never got us past the SEC East. That's a fact: look it up if you like. Sorry if it makes the acolytes mad, but it's a fact nevertheless. Isn't it strange that Fulmer has been out of football since he left UT?

He made it clear he wanted the Arkansas job:
http://www.mrsec.com/2012/05/fulmer-w...

According to this link, he was supposedly a candidate at more schools:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports....

Despite all of this supposed interest, he doesn't have a job. In contrast, Nutt and Tuberville both had jobs after their departures. And don't forget: it sure didn't take Dooley long to find a job (in the NFL with the Cowboys, by the way) despite being an abysmal failure as a head coach.

As for Dickey, the state of the Athletics Department then and now is remarkably different. You are spot on with your claim that Dickey was (and is) responsible for the transformation. Despite this, we need someone who has a track record with programs this size, not a coach who ultimately became an account payable on the balance sheet when he soaked the program for MILLIONS in his departure.

And yes, I agree with your comments about our new head coach. Judging by this well-written response to me, I would say that you are not a full-fledged Fulmer acolyte, as you do not appear to be wishing for Jones to fail. It is worth noting that, if you go to the first link I provided, the much-maligned AD Hart made it clear that he wants to see Fulmer's presence around campus.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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1. Fulmer couldn't get past the SEC East. That is a fact. I am sure that pointing this out makes your blood boil (as it does with most Fulmer acolytes), but nevertheless it's true. It doesn't even require your acknowledgement to secure its validity.
2. Fulmer has NO EXPERIENCE as an Athletic Director. It's really that simple: NO EXPERIENCE as an Athletic Director.

Now, judging by the comment you made above, you're either very young or very foolish. Hart is an Athletic Director, not a coach. Again - to quench your apparent thirst for perpetuity - he is an Athletic Director, not a coach. Because he is an Athletic Director, Hart does not have "losing experience." Perhaps that is why you want Fulmer as the AD: you seemingly cannot grasp that those two positions are mutually exclusive.

The last time I checked: I haven't seen any Alabama fans wishing for Gene Stallings to return as head coach. It's time to turn the page and let it go.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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I KNEW IT: you're a Fulmer acolyte.

Phil was a great coach, up until the other coaches in the league passed him by. Phil couldn't get us out of the SEC East, and you think he is the man to lead the entire Athletic Department??

Fulmer has NO EXPERIENCE as an Athletic Director. Let me re-write that for you, since you seemingly love things in perpetuity: NO EXPERIENCE. I love my Porsche, but that love doesn't transform me into an expert mechanic.
He's a great guy, but he's the wrong guy - either as head coach or as the AD.

It really is time for you to turn the page.

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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Really? By posting on this board (which is not actually affiliated with the University) are you suggesting that you are holding them accountable? Seriously?

You make that statement as if anyone other than yourself actually takes you seriously. Well, since you wield so much power, going forward:

1. Refrain from utilizing invented nicknames. It really does give your comments an aura of fatuity.
2. Offer something that is actually insightful, rather than disparaging rhetoric.
3. You have identified what you perceive as the problem at UT. Rather than simply repeating this in perpetuity, offer something that could be considered a solution.

After all, since you have such a crucial role in the future of the University, you should approach such an awesome responsibility with maturity, or at least more than what you have exhibited thus far......

Written on Dave Hart already a big Butch Jones fan :

in response to billythekid:

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We get it, billythekid: you are not a Dave Hart fan. You have made this abundantly clear, as you seemingly post this (or something very similar) ad nauseum.

Have you come up with anything new to add to the discussion, or can we expect more of the same? You are starting to remind me of those old television commercials where someone in the background continually asks "What about Sony?"

If not Dave Hart, who is the person who will restore UT to greatness?

Written on Father of Trae Golden says reports of academic problems are 'totally inaccurate':

in response to billythekid:

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Unless you have some proof to back up the accusations you make about the former FOOTBALL coach (once again, this was a discussion about BASKETBALL), you really should stay in the kiddie pool.

Written on Father of Trae Golden says reports of academic problems are 'totally inaccurate':

in response to billythekid:

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Okay, Billythekid: take a deep breath.
Breathe in
Breathe out

This is a story about BASKETBALL. You made a comment about FOOTBALL. I hope you know the difference between the two. Perhaps next time you can make a comment that actually pertains to the discussion at hand. If you cannot tell the difference between FOOTBALL and BASKETBALL, you should probably stay in the kiddie pool.

The FOOTBALL coach to which you are referring is gone. It's time to turn the page.......

Written on Mark Wiedmer: UT's Butch Jones clear winner in visit to center:

in response to utvolfan1955:

I wonder how jeff_aint_no_richmond aka 1percent brain usage will put a negative spin on this

Ha!
You already know the answer......

Written on Haslam Field turf replaced to stay green:

in response to SevenT:

Dooley thought since LSU and Alabama re-do their turf so should Tennessee. Now that is pretty hilarious. The Doolaid Drinkers bought everything "Coach" said hook line and sinker.

You got your wish: Dooley is gone. Turn the page....

Written on Source: Trae Golden's departure 'based on academics' and 'repeated plagiarism':

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

Then why did Martin offer him a scholarship. Either Martin is really, really stupid or this comment is really stupid. Can't be be both.

Wow: guess you had to recycle an older screen name since the other comments you made with a newer one were removed, huh?

Notice that was a question: I would NEVER outright accuse someone of jamming the board with multiple screen names.....

Written on Source: Trae Golden's departure 'based on academics' and 'repeated plagiarism':

in response to maciste54:

I think it's George Bush's fault !

Sign you are a complete tool # 17:
When you interject politics into a SPORTS FORUM.

There are plenty of boards for like-minded acolytes such as yourself. Please do us a favor and stop polluting the board with this nonsense.

Written on David Climer: Time to give Derek Dooley some credit:

It sure would be nice if we could stop seeing articles and comments about Dooley.
Or Kiffin.
Or Fulmer.
Or Majors.

We need to move forward.

Written on New UT coach Butch Jones in Knoxville:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Wow: if you TRULY believe that there is some sort of "Tuscaloosa Conspiracy," then you really do need to seek professional help. Not kidding around here, you need to see someone about this - sooner rather than later…..

Written on New UT coach Butch Jones in Knoxville:

in response to 61NCVol:

VA Vol: I'm not saying Jones is the right guy. I'm not saying he is the wrong guy. But the fact is he is now OUR guy, like it or not. The least we can do is support him. Go Vols!

On that point we agree.

Written on New UT coach Butch Jones in Knoxville:

in response to VOLSnTITANS:

good post...sad but the hard truth.

……except for the part about Fulmer.

Written on New UT coach Butch Jones in Knoxville:

in response to 61NCVol:

I would expect that type of comment from you. Do you ever have anything good to say? I can only guess that either you are permanently constipated or in need of serious mental therapy.

As much as I really HATE to do this, I have to agree with the pessimist on this one.

1. He's a job jumper. We are still stinging from the last job jumper we hired. He has done 2 years in each of the last schools, right?
2. What top prospect - in their right mind - would make the decision to come and play for a job jumper? "Right: I come to UT and you leave in 2 years, leaving me high n dry and facing the prospect of a new Head Coach with a completely different scheme that may or may not include me?? No, but thanks anyway."
3. Didn't this guy lose to Dooley? Hmmmm……

Perhaps it was a pipe dream on my part, but I think we should have gone after Tony Dungy - with a vengeance. We could have gone public in the media: "We want you, Tony." We could have had mass rallies in Knoxville filled with signs that read: "We want you, Tony." Imagine the news stories on ESPN, CBS, NBC: "In Knoxville, the Volunteer Nation had a massive rally on the site of the former World's Fair. They are making it clear that the fans are eager to have Tony take the reins at the University's football program. They want his leadership, they want his character, they want him to build this program into a powerhouse."

Oh, well………..

Written on Holly Warlick remembers Stokely Athletics Center :

in response to RockyTFrustrated:

Remember when the student section would open their 'Daily Beacon' and in unison we would chant 'who cares?' or 'so what' or 'big deal' each time a member of the opposing team was introduced before the game? My favorite was Joe B. Hall though. We gave that poor man phooey the ENTIRE game. "Sit, Joe, sit!"

And I really don't care for popcorn. But man did I enjoy Stokely's! Holly was right.

Kinda wish we played there now.

That sure would be a tight fit - getting all of us in there now. But you are absolutely right - love your comments.

Written on John Adams: Vols might have found a 'yes' man :

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Yes, we know - you feel compelled to tell us that over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over……...

Written on John Adams: Vols might have found a 'yes' man :

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Hart could not sell opium in an opium den.

He has screwed up the entire coaching recruitment, if Jones is the selection.

In addition to being substandard for a position as demandin gas Head Coach of UT,---which was a greatly respected position until Hamilton and Hart got through mishandling everything about it-- ButchJones does not exactly inspire anybody who knows anything about football. He is Derrick Dooley with a little bit less rich kid ambiance, and a little more of the work ethic of Fulmer, without actually working as hard as did Fulmer, and also without the recruiting ability or the coaching ability of either Fulmer or Cutcliffe.

Jones will be eaten alive by Florida, Bama, Arkansas, South Carolina, Vandy and maybe Kentucky, and Georgia and also A&M and LSU. And sooner or later, he will face them all...

If you thought Battle was bad...get ready for Dooley Light.

Hart does not care. He just proved it.
And Cheek is his partner in slime.

UT is now the offical laughing stock of the SEC...

In short, Hart needs to be fired. If Hart makes Spring practice as a UT employee, the Board of Trustees needs to be replaced---all of them. And because Hart needs to be thrown off the side of Neyland Stadium's pressbox,
Cheek should be pulled down the river by one of the Vol Navy boats to use as catfish bait.

This shows that both of them have utter contempt for UT, our traditions and absolutely ZERO loyalty or respect of The University of Tennessee.

One more thing: Fulmer beat the phooey out of Hart's program, and Alabama, and was beginning to hold his own against Florida, when Craphead Hamilton fired him.

Fulmer is better than Jones, better than Strong, better than Pellini, better than almost every coach that Hart has been reported ot have interviewed---based on Fulmer's track record. And he is as good as every one of the rest, including Gruden.

What Hamilton, Peterson, Hart and Cheek have done to UT is almost criminal---and all should be sued to regain the monies paid them.

Just that simple.

Jones has no business being UT's head coach. Just like Cheek has no business being chancellor.

Seriously???
Do you REALLY believe that Fulmer was "beginning to hold his own against Florida??" Exactly what does that mean? Urban Meyer never lost to Fulmer during his tenure at Florida.
He beat Fulmer in 2005.
He beat Fulmer in 2006.
He beat Fulmer in 2007. (that game was UGLY)
He beat Fulmer in 2008. (we didn't score until the 4th quarter, remember?)

On what planet in what universe would that be considered "holding his own?"

You need to change your screen name to Fulmerthrunthru#658770. But don't worry: it is looking more and more like you just might get your wish. If you think UT is the "official laughing stock of the SEC" now, wait until he returns…..

Written on Polls: Are you confident in Dave Hart? Should UT re-hire Phillip Fulmer?:

in response to golfman1975:

How long have you been on your job? Both coaches gave the majority of their lives to their job so sure they EARNED everything they got. Joe Pa made a mistake and Penn St paid the cost. What power play did coach Fulmer make? Work at your job for say 20 years if you get fired would you be surprised? I think you dont understand much about loyalty or job performance. You need to change teams...you cant be a true fan of the Orange.

Wow: it almost sounds like you know him….

Don't worry - you have a very good chance of seeing your beloved Fulmer on the sidelines next year. And all of those people won't be laughing with us, they'll be laughing at us. Enjoy!

Written on Polls: Are you confident in Dave Hart? Should UT re-hire Phillip Fulmer?:

in response to TheDrummerDude:

2 losing seasons out of how many under Fulmer? PLus, go check ESPN's recruiting rankings from 2007, Fulmer's last recruiting class. His LAST class was ranked number 5 in the COUNTRY. Tennessee was on the way back up but you foolish and impatient "win championships every year or die" fans need to seriously chill your tits. YOU FANS have gotten this program where it is today. YOU FANS are to blame for how this program has fallen. Everyone knows that football is cyclical. You're good some years, you're bad other. We at Tennessee were blessed to have been a national powerhouse for DECADES under the likes of Neyland, Battle, Majors, and our great Coach Fulmer.You fans fired Fulmer 1 YEAR removed from an SEC Championship game. Don't give your BS about "he got lazy." Oh? Then why was our recruiting class ranked number 5? Remember Eric Berry? Bryce Brown? BOTH were from that LAST CLASS under PHILLIP FULMER. Brown left because Fulmer was fired. Where is he now? A star running back in the NFL. So thank you impatient knucklehead fans. You're showing once again why this program as systematically rolled down "the Hill."

You have to be kidding. There is no way you actually believe these statements.

Tennessee was "on the way back up?" Perhaps you are referring to another team - is that it? I guess you forgot about that last season - you know: the one in 2008.

I sincerely hope all of the Fulmer acolytes get their wish. We can get Fulmer back. It won't be that hard, as nobody else wants him. I know, I know: he has been holding out for a better job (better than Louisville, or Minnesota, or Kansas, or Arkansas, or Kentucky) - just like Randy Quaid's character in "National Lampoon's Vacation." I am sure that all of you honestly believe that he will have us in the BCS Bowl - despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary - but don't worry: you'll see. Then we really will be the laughingstock of college football.

Maybe he can bring back Randy Sanders, which of course is my preference. Or perhaps we will see the Clawfense 2.0. It will be painful to watch, but it will settle this NONSENSE once and for all. Fulmer is a great guy, but he's the wrong guy. The game passed him by. A coach with all of his supposed greatness would have been hired immediately. As I recall, Houston Nutt was let go at Arkansas and was working not too long after that announcement.

So don't worry: with every "Sorry, not interested" we receive, it is looking more and more like it will happen.

Written on Bret Bielema leaves Wisconsin for Arkansas:

Wow: gutsy move. He is taking over a mess in Arkansas.
Bielema has my respect for that move, though I would imagine that he may have had about (reportedly) 19.2 million reasons to make this choice.

Written on Passion for UT, longevity part of Phillip Fulmer's claim to Fame :

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

VaVol...One word for you: Doofus.

Anybody who wants truth, rather than prejudiced anti-Fulmer manure would go on to say, after your obfuscating one-word comment, that:

a. Quarterback controversy, with one set of parents spreading false rumors on the competitor to their son, had stymied Stephens’ growth a year earlier.

b. Loss of Cutcliffe who was bringing Stephens along, and thought Crompton sutstandard.

c. Hiring of gimmick offense Offense Coordinator, a mid-major guy not good enough to coach in the SEC to replace Cutcliffe. Fulmer had to hire quickly to provide continuity in recruiting/Spring practice in a year in which not many good OC's were available---after Cutcliffe left for Duke on short notice. The Clawson offense stank. It is small-time, designed for marginally effective teams with few good players, rotating better players side to side on the line, etc.

d. Receiver injuries

e. MOST IMPORTANTLY, Hamilton had been trying for five years to get Fulmer fired. Fulmer thought another AD candidate far more qualified than Hamilton after Dickey retired---the guy who built BC up before leaving of his own accord. The interim President at UT during the Wyoming game had so many troubles due to his mismanagement, that he was afraid of Fulmer's political power to get another president appointed. So he okayed Hamilton's knifing Fulmer in the back.
Hamilton made the announcement of Fulmer's firing on Monday of Homecoming week (Wyoming.) You obviously never played college football or worked in a major college athletics department. It may be lost on you what making that announcement on MONDAY would do---but not lost on Hamilton. He played the cards perfectly to screw Fulmer---with OC Dave Clawson's system already having put the offense in a state of chaos. After the previous week's game struggle---along comes Hamilton---who had been leaking anti-Fulmer information for years, allowing Fulmer’s critics to be able to use websites and news columns to trip him up. J ohn Adams and the website brigade were all pimps putting out Hamilton's disinformation. Where Dooley had an AD covering his players' legal troubles so only a few reports hit the news---the #'s of troubles were about the same as Fulmer’s--Hamilton made the most of them, leaking every possible detail to willing reporters who would have been unable to find out otherwise.

So you, VaVol, are full of manure. You do not have a clue. But then ignorant people usually respond to complex questions with trite, sophomoric answers, like, “Wyoming.”

Just so you will understand, since you obviously cannot relate facts or assimilate related information, your one-word answer is a portrait of ignorance. "Wyoming" was not the problem. You, VaVol are emblematic of what was and is still wrong with UT Athletics: Stupidity reigns over long periods (as your continuing long-term expression of it proves.)
GoVols. Congratulations, Phillip. You are a winner.

Wow: doofus? Dang, you really got me with that one…..

a. So it was the parents' fault????
b. Oh, so it was Cutcliffe's fault????
c. Oops, sorry: it was Clawsen's fault????
d. My bad: it was the receivers' fault?
e. Nah, it was Hamilton's fault????

You are all over the proverbial page. You sound a lot like my kids - blaming anyone and everyone. So, it was a CONSPIRACY that involved all of the aforementioned people. Wow…...

Oh, and by the way, my "continuing long-term expression" involves one word. I am so sick and tired of those who seemingly let their allegiance to one man supersede that of the University of Tennessee, and polarize their memory of what transpired. After all, it was more than just 2008.

Written on Passion for UT, longevity part of Phillip Fulmer's claim to Fame :

in response to volhome#407234:

He. Was. Already. Fired. And. The. Players. Knew. It. Whether you accept it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you look back at the injuries that decimated that team or not, and whether you cae to remember less than twelve months prior we were playing in Atlanta for an SEC Title that for one bad throw would have been ours, CPF was jobbed out by a bunch of hooligans and boobs that are not Tennessee fans. It may have been disappointing the losses under CPF's time, but nothing like the debacle that we have suffered through since his unceremonious departure. Get it straight, we brought the collective blade to our own throats, and then slashed by firing Coach Fulmer. Shame on us, and shame on your poor memory.

Sorry, but you too are suffering from selective memory.
With this post, I guess you are theorizing that the team quit, which I find interesting.

Fulmer was a great coach, and the game passed him by. As I have written before (more than once), I felt that he should have been allowed to finish out his contract. But we would have had more of what we saw in 2008.

The blade to the throat was cutting him before his contract expired (remember: he received MILLIONS for "his unceremonious departure"). We could have just found another coach and moved on without having to pay him MILLIONS.

But all of the Fulmer acolytes just might get their wish, and we will become an even bigger laughingstock if we bring back CPF. I know Richt, Saban, Spurrier and Miles hope we do….

Written on Passion for UT, longevity part of Phillip Fulmer's claim to Fame :

in response to orangeman1:

Best coach at UT in my lifetime. I would "settle" for winning 9-10 games a year and competing for the East every 3 years now.

I wouldn't disagree with you on either point.

Hope all is well with you and yours, orangeman1. As usual, a great post.

Written on Passion for UT, longevity part of Phillip Fulmer's claim to Fame :

in response to twicevolalum:

Hey VolinVirginia,
How little you remember. It was also the first game after the dismantling of the program. I'm so sorry the 2008 loss to Wyoming after the firing of Coach Fulmer ruined your life. #Getoverit

Nah, I remember it well. I also remember that the "program" you mention had more than one loss going into that game. I also remember that the win against that "program" was the 3rd for Wyoming against an SEC team, the other two coming against Mississippi. Moreover, I remember that the "dismantling of the program" involved more than just one game. #selectivememory

Written on Passion for UT, longevity part of Phillip Fulmer's claim to Fame :

in response to Govols1995:

We should have never got rid of him. The recruiting was still good we just didn't get the results. Now look where we are getting 3 star recruits left and right. Wrong move VOL nation.

OMg, here we go again.
One word, Govols1995: "Wyoming."

Written on Tennessee's coach search turns to Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy :

in response to 1voiceofreason:

As long as he wins games, which is what he has done wherever he goes, why do you care if he fools around on his wife? He's a football coach, not a minister. Lock him in with a huge buyout so any team has a huge disincentive to grab him.

The type of recruits we need care about winning and going pro. If the coach can help them do that, the'll sign up.

Don't know if I agree with you, but this is an excellent post. The era of morality in a coach (or college football, for that matter), is over. It's all about that future paycheck, and winning at all costs.
To quote Bob Dylan:
"While money doesn't talk, it swears."

[Note: lyrics copyright © 1965 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1993 by Special Rider Music]

Written on Tennessee's coach search turns to Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy :

in response to volnbig11land:

Fulmer probably wouldn't stay out of the football coaches, business.

Spurrier would probably laugh at the suggestion, and...

Monty couldn't stop a spread offense with a flame thrower!

That last sentence was HILARIOUS!

+1

Written on New York City could be nexus of Tennessee's coaching search for next few days :

in response to BankerVol:

Heritage couldn't carry Maryville's jock strap!

<laughing>

Uh oh, it's on!!!

Written on Agent says Gruden never had interest in Vols' job, calls reports "fantasy":

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I hate it, but I agree with everything you just wrote.

Dave Hart is a joke and I have to believe that Cheek is actively trying to destroy our athletics program.

Oh, so it's a CONSPIRACY??

Written on Agent says Gruden never had interest in Vols' job, calls reports "fantasy":

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

"LaMonte said Hart’s call today was apparently a formality.

“He said, ‘I just wanted to do due diligence,’” LaMonte said. “I said, ‘Thank you but Jon has made it clear he’s committed to ESPN.' He thanked me and said goodbye.'"

WTF has Dave Hart been doing for the last damn week???

Can we not hire competent administrators at this University? How does your entire fan base, the people that fund your JOB, blow up over the idea that Gruden is going to come to UT and then you just call as a FORMALITY?!?

This is amazing. Dave Hart and Jimmy Cheek have turned our athletic department into the University of Virginia.

This just in:
"DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho" doesn't approve of Dave Hart and Jimmy Cheek…..

I guess that since Dooley is gone, you have to find another individual about which to complain, huh?

Written on Tennessee's coach search turns to Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy :

in response to Tennfan4075:

Since no one has offered any significant insight into the coaching decision why not we fire Hart, hire Fulmer as AD and talk Spurrier into coming to Knoxville as HC and since Monte Kiffin and Lane seem to be on the outs why not offer Monte the DC position. I know this seems somewhat extreme but sometime extreme measures are required. Additional information will be forthcoming.

You seriously want Fulmer as an Athletic Director? You seriously think Spurrier would come to UT and work for the coach he OWNED?

Since you want Fulmer to fill a role for which he is unqualified, why not make him a tenured Professor of Physics while we're at it?

Written on Tennessee's coach search turns to Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy :

in response to VOLSnTITANS:

I'm a man...I'm 40.

I just spit coffee all over my computer……
Thanks for reminding me of that!!

Seriously though, why would Gundy leave his alma mater?

Written on No. 4 Florida, No. 22 Louisville in Sugar Bowl:

Amazing: Georgia wins the East, and gets relegated to the Capital One Bowl because they have a loss in the SEC Championship Game. Not saying that Florida doesn't deserve the trip to New Orleans, just saying that Georgia deserves it more.

I guess the Bulldogs would have been better off had they skipped the trip to Atlanta. Seems to me that this makes the case for a playoff, huh?

Written on Coaching Carousel: After wild day of Jon Gruden rumors, Tennessee's pursuit uncertain :

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

"Golden to UT."

If this is true, then I'm done giving money to UT athletics. Al Golden is a more experienced version of Derek Dooley. You can pretty much disregard anything that he has done at Miami and just look at his time with Temple. He made Temple mediocre instead of horrible...whoopty poop. We might as well have kept Dooley if all we're going to get is Dooley 2.0.

I mean, Bobby Petrino will come in and he will win. That's all he's done at other programs. He's a better Xs and Os coach than any other SEC head coach. He will win with our guys. Maybe he's gone in 3 or 4 years, but that will be a good 3 or 4 years. Al Golden will spend the next 8 years turning UT into a rich man's Miss State. I thought we wanted more for this program.

Waking up to find Golden is our coach would be the equivalent of getting a new Blackberry for Christmas.

Wow: with Dooley gone, it appears you are actively searching for someone else about whom to whine and complain....

Written on Kentucky hires FSU assistant Mark Stoops as coach:

in response to Clarkrm0706:

The Rumor was that KY was interested in him, not the other way around.

Wasn't that what some have said about Arkansas?
And Kansas?
And Minnesota?
And Louisville?

Written on UT coaching roundup: Kentucky's hiring of Mark Stoops could be relevant :

in response to stumpy:

Jimbo has only lost to Florida once in three years. I think most Tennessee Fans would take that kind of production when playing UF!

Um….. that's a good point, stumpy.

Written on Coaching Carousel: Day 1 of the search for Tennessee's new football coach :

in response to volbob:

Great article about nothing. Tony Dungy had on a orange and white tie yesterday during NBC Football Night - does that mean he wants the job? Chaney has never been the head coach of anything, but the offense has been the only thing worth watching all year - expect for the Vandy game. Saturday is meaningless, but I'll watch it anyway. UT will hire someone, and we'll all be posting and watching the same as usual. Life will go on.

As a Tampa native and lifelong Bucs fan, I would LOVE to see Dungy on the field. Imagine the possibilities: he would be a great recruiter and an asset to the community. Dungy went to my church, and he is the real deal. He "walks the talk," and would be a great leader.

But - realistically - what are our chances of luring Dungy to Knoxville?

Written on UT's Cheek: No plan yet for funding coaching buyout :

in response to onetruevol706:

Just bring back Phil...should have keep him in the first place. i said that back then and we are still paying him anyway.

Hey: now there's a GREAT idea: let's go back to what wasn't working in 2008.

Written on Tennessee fires Derek Dooley:

in response to gobigorange5090:

Fulmer should be the AD instead of Hart!

Seriously?
Fulmer as an AD? Do you think any legitimate coach is going to take us seriously if that happens?

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