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in response to volnbig11land: p.s. I wonder how ole Stoops thinks the Big 12 (that doesn't even have 12 teams) thinks his conference stacks up to the SEC? That conference has only had one BCS championship that I can remember (could be wrong), and it that was Texas (who wouldn't even be a state if it weren't for a bunch of Volunteers!) Stoops rep is that he consistently looses games he shouldn't. He earned that rep, the media didn't give it to him!
in response to volnbig11land:
p.s. I wonder how ole Stoops thinks the Big 12 (that doesn't even have 12 teams) thinks his conference stacks up to the SEC?
That conference has only had one BCS championship that I can remember (could be wrong), and it that was Texas (who wouldn't even be a state if it weren't for a bunch of Volunteers!)
Stoops rep is that he consistently looses games he shouldn't. He earned that rep, the media didn't give it to him!
Stoops won a national championship at Oklahoma in 2000.
Prayers and wishes for a speedy recovery to Ashely Lowery.
Why would 7T be in Neyland for the UK game two seasons ago? That game was played at Commonwealth.
Best of luck to you Yemi. Thank you for your efforts here at UT-- I especially enjoyed watching your energy on defense.
Well, I hate to see him throw away his future like this. It would be nice if he could be dedicated to being the best player that he can be, and show that he cares about his team.If the rumors are correct about the reason for the discipline, then it IS a "family medical issue"-- his family needs to be involved in helping him get back on track, whether that is as a Vol player or not.
in response to VolGrad: It appears that Rivals has us at 5th, not 4th, despite Farrell's tweet.
in response to VolGrad:
It appears that Rivals has us at 5th, not 4th, despite Farrell's tweet.
Still-- really good start to this recruiting class.That Georgia troll hasn't been crowing about any recruiting advantage lately, I've noticed.I thought Coach Jones was a good hire when they announced it-- I'm even more optimistic now than I was then.
in response to John_10065: It was a badly called game. The refs should have gotten it under control early in the contest and put a stop to it. U of L decided their only hope was to turn it into a fight club style of game and the refs let them do it. Their coach even indicated that was what they wanted to do. I've seen pick up games on city park courts that were less physical. I was wondering if they shouldn't have issued MMA grappling gloves for the game.
in response to John_10065:
It was a badly called game. The refs should have gotten it under control early in the contest and put a stop to it. U of L decided their only hope was to turn it into a fight club style of game and the refs let them do it. Their coach even indicated that was what they wanted to do.
I've seen pick up games on city park courts that were less physical. I was wondering if they shouldn't have issued MMA grappling gloves for the game.
I've seen the Baylor team play like that on several occasions in the past few years. They always got away with it. They weren't ready to play against a team that decided to play their style of "physical" game.
RIP Mr. Moore. As a Vol fan, I'm not happy about the successful turnaround you helped engineer for UA athletics overall, but I respect your accomplishments.
in response to TheEffect: "Enjoy Kentucky's misery while you can, because it won't last long. The 2013-2014 Revenge Tour starts in November....and it's going to be a bloodbath". The most accurate quote I heard all day.
in response to TheEffect:
"Enjoy Kentucky's misery while you can, because it won't last long. The 2013-2014 Revenge Tour starts in November....and it's going to be a bloodbath".
The most accurate quote I heard all day.
Y'all better schedule a home/home with Robert Morris, then.
Nelson Munce: "Ha ha"
in response to budd#207344: You publish these lies under a number of names. But no matter what name you use the result is the same. BS. Once again I will ask you to name one player in the last 20 years that was refused admittance to UT and signed with another SEC team. Now I can name you a player that was denied by Florida and signed by UT, Omari Phillips. So name one or STFU
in response to budd#207344:
You publish these lies under a number of names. But no matter what name you use the result is the same. BS. Once again I will ask you to name one player in the last 20 years that was refused admittance to UT and signed with another SEC team. Now I can name you a player that was denied by Florida and signed by UT, Omari Phillips. So name one or STFU
Facts are inconvenient in the context of rants.
in response to kman29: conference record of last 5 teams Tennessee has played....31-39. Not exactly flexing their muscles against the greatest quality of teams in a horrible conference this year.
in response to kman29:
conference record of last 5 teams Tennessee has played....31-39. Not exactly flexing their muscles against the greatest quality of teams in a horrible conference this year.
If those teams had beaten the Vols, the conference record of the last 5 teams would have been 36-34. However, Tennessee beat them all.Now the conference record of the last 6 teams Tennessee has played is 53-43.No, wait, make that 53-44-- the Gators suffered ANOTHER loss to the Vols.Nelson Munce: "Ha ha."
Props to Ole Miss for examining all of those.
Nelson: HA HA
in response to hikerdude: Good to win another on the road. Two things bothered me about the game. First, we do not handle the press well. That seems to me to be a coaching problem. Second, we let the shot clock expire twice on our end of the court. One was near the end of the game when we were milking the clck but the other was caused by failure to pay attention.
in response to hikerdude:
Good to win another on the road. Two things bothered me about the game. First, we do not handle the press well. That seems to me to be a coaching problem. Second, we let the shot clock expire twice on our end of the court. One was near the end of the game when we were milking the clck but the other was caused by failure to pay attention.
I agree that shot clock violations are awful, but in the Commode Odors' house, the shot clocks are not located in the usual locations like they would be in an arena with a normal layout. The TV commentators mentioned that a couple of times yesterday.
in response to Rumblefish: One of the worst fluff pieces I've ever read.
in response to Rumblefish:
One of the worst fluff pieces I've ever read.
The Cliff's Notes version of the column:
Players who milk the attention using the "baseball caps game" are obnoxious. Especially if they don't choose Tennessee in the end.
in response to brokendownoldvol: Come on Von Bell! You know you are a vol!
in response to brokendownoldvol:
Come on Von Bell! You know you are a vol!
Can't spell "Vonn Bell" without V-O-L
in response to StateofEastTN: I miss Coach Pearl. This coach is so boring. He probably puts the players to sleep. Just a couple years ago there was so much excitement during basketball season, then Pearl was fired, this coach came in and basketball is back to what it was when Green and Houston were coaching. Sad.
in response to StateofEastTN:
I miss Coach Pearl. This coach is so boring. He probably puts the players to sleep. Just a couple years ago there was so much excitement during basketball season, then Pearl was fired, this coach came in and basketball is back to what it was when Green and Houston were coaching. Sad.
Jerry Green won a lot of games (20+ every year), and took the Vols to the NCAA tourney each year he was here.He recruited Ron Slay, Marcus Haislip, and Vincent Yarbrough.He took Tennessee to their first Sweet 16.He wasn't a fan-friendly coach, but he did well in his job.
Best of luck to all of them in the next level.I'm a bit surprised by Sentimore's decision-- he has shown potential as a college player but I haven't yet thought "He will be a big-time pro."
"Playing the Vols has long lost its luster for Memphis."
Tell that to the fans who pack FedEx Forum when Memphis plays the Vols.Enjoy your series against Oral Roberts.
in response to ssukonic#254241: Your article says the game is "today." News flash.....the game is tomorrow night (Friday).
in response to ssukonic#254241:
Your article says the game is "today." News flash.....the game is tomorrow night (Friday).
To the readers who count (i.e.-- the paying subscribers) the reference to the game "today" in this article will be correct.
If they cancel the series, Tennessee can still play basketball games in Memphis. Just schedule a game against Arkansas, Ole Miss, or Miss St there.I'm sure the FedEx Forum management would be happy to work something out with the Vols.
Are the women's teams at Presbyterian College called the Lady Blue Hose?
in response to VolFanInTheBoro: This is the same coaching staff that beat little Jimmy Franklin's Vanderbilt Commodores in the Liberty Bowl. Franklin was and is still playing with Bobby Johnson's recruits. Go back and watch that Cinn game vs a SEC team. Laughable
in response to VolFanInTheBoro:
This is the same coaching staff that beat little Jimmy Franklin's Vanderbilt Commodores in the Liberty Bowl. Franklin was and is still playing with Bobby Johnson's recruits. Go back and watch that Cinn game vs a SEC team. Laughable
VolFanInTheBoro-- well done. Trash talk from a Vandy Commode-Odor fan is pretty funny.
in response to SevenT: You will certainly find out soon enough big talker. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Petrino's team upset Tennessee early next season. You Betcha
in response to SevenT:
You will certainly find out soon enough big talker. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Petrino's team upset Tennessee early next season.
You Betcha
It does take a serious effort this far into December to get a nomination for "Most Idiotic Post this Year". Kudos, sevent. You got it.
in response to rockypop: I can tell you that having played at Cincinnati during the 60's, when the Missouri Valley Conference was the best basketball conference in the country, beating Wichita State is a big deal. In spite of the fact that the MVC has lost some of its past glory, it's still one of the best BB conferences in college basketball. This win was as quality a win as UT will have all year. CCM kind of downplayed WS as not being the high quality opponent that he would have liked to schedule, but he knows how good these guys are, and what their history is. It's all good - for UT and WS.
in response to rockypop:
I can tell you that having played at Cincinnati during the 60's, when the Missouri Valley Conference was the best basketball conference in the country, beating Wichita State is a big deal.
In spite of the fact that the MVC has lost some of its past glory, it's still one of the best BB conferences in college basketball. This win was as quality a win as UT will have all year.
CCM kind of downplayed WS as not being the high quality opponent that he would have liked to schedule, but he knows how good these guys are, and what their history is. It's all good - for UT and WS.
Did you play on the early '60's teams with Larry Shingleton? He was my BB coach in middle school. Great coach, and still was an amazing shooter.
in response to titletownz: (This comment was removed by the site staff.)
in response to titletownz:
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GFY
Adams' columns usually irritate me, but this one is a dose of reality for the morons that think Gruden would have come here if Hart had tried harder.Gruden makes $5M/yr for putting in part time hours over the course of a 17-week season. He's not going to leave that gravy train to coach CFB. He turned down ND a few years ago. He turned down Arkansas this year. Both Arkansas and ND have been relevant a LOT more than Tennessee has recently.Butch Jones is a good coach. I'm glad he's here.GO VOLS!!!
in response to born2ride: I hope Sal Sunseri enjoyed his year in Knoxville.
in response to born2ride:
I hope Sal Sunseri enjoyed his year in Knoxville.
Very hospitable of you.
in response to John_10065: I think we ought to go interim coach for as long as it takes to prove to the rest of the nation that we're actually serious about rebuilding this program. We fired two NC winning coaches in the past 20 years. I can think of only one other program that fired a winning coach that had a NC in his pocket. That was Tubby Smith at UK. That's who we are people, the SEC football version of UK. Win championships or be fired. Who the heck would want to come here and be on the chopping block the moment they didn't compete for the SEC East crown or the SEC crown? We're a bunch of spoiled brats who think we are entitled to 10 wins seasons every year. We deserve to reside in the cellar for a decade. Maybe after then when we finally get a decent up and coming coach, we might appreciate him.
I think we ought to go interim coach for as long as it takes to prove to the rest of the nation that we're actually serious about rebuilding this program. We fired two NC winning coaches in the past 20 years.
I can think of only one other program that fired a winning coach that had a NC in his pocket. That was Tubby Smith at UK. That's who we are people, the SEC football version of UK. Win championships or be fired. Who the heck would want to come here and be on the chopping block the moment they didn't compete for the SEC East crown or the SEC crown?
We're a bunch of spoiled brats who think we are entitled to 10 wins seasons every year. We deserve to reside in the cellar for a decade. Maybe after then when we finally get a decent up and coming coach, we might appreciate him.
Auburn fired Chizik.
Tennessee still won't have a hard time getting a better coach than Dooley was.
in response to lemme_axya_this: Billy Gillispie is back in Lexington.
in response to lemme_axya_this:
Billy Gillispie is back in Lexington.
Unfortunately, Billy Gillispie had a winning record against Tennessee.
JA kickin' us while we're down. Again. SSDD.
in response to Vol1983: Jimbo. Word will leak out tomorrow and the announcement will be Monday.
in response to Vol1983:
Jimbo. Word will leak out tomorrow and the announcement will be Monday.
I heard Gruden.However, I can't claim to have spoken to anyone with any clout.
I've been saying he is the weak link on that staff ever since Dexter McCluster ran for about 5000 yards against Tennessee.A competent DC would have said to Eric Berry, "Hey, stick to that McCluster guy like glue. Let's put a stop to this nonsense."
in response to laraccoon: yea , we should keep a bunch of these assistant coaches on staff .
in response to laraccoon:
yea , we should keep a bunch of these assistant coaches on staff .
I think Jay Graham and Sam Pittman would both be excellent choices for keeping, and I wouldn't be upset at all if Chaney was retained as well.I put the blame for the Chattanooga area recruiting blunders on the HC and the recruiting coordinator (Darin Hinshaw).I would be very surprised if Hinshaw was retained by the next HC.
in response to notfunanymore: I am 100% sure the stupid UT admin will hire another loser with a popular last name.
in response to notfunanymore:
I am 100% sure the stupid UT admin will hire another loser with a popular last name.
Dave Shula?
in response to northfan: I think it should be every fan who could and did go to every game during this painful season.
in response to northfan:
I think it should be every fan who could and did go to every game during this painful season.
We were gluttons for punishment.It sure was nice to see the Vols win yesterday, though.
How many instances are there where a program hired an established coach and started winning big quickly afterward?I can think of bama/saban, bama/Bryant, TX/Brown and Arkansas/Petrino. um was a gamble for uf even though he was successful in the mid-majors. I'm sure there are other examples, but how many are in situations like Tennessee's, in which the in-state recruiting isn't great?
I'm hoping there won't be a rash of incidents like this before Tennessee gets a new coach who can make a statement about discipline off the field.
in response to MarbleCitySon: Even if USC wins, I don't think it will save Lame's job. Besides that......I would rather USC win and have the other conferences on the outside looking in as two sec teams decide who the NC will be. If my Vols can't be on top,then at least our conference can.
in response to MarbleCitySon:
Even if USC wins, I don't think it will save Lame's job. Besides that......I would rather USC win and have the other conferences on the outside looking in as two sec teams decide who the NC will be. If my Vols can't be on top,then at least our conference can.
I think a win over ND would save kiffin's job. The trogans may have faltered from their ridiculously lofty preseason ranking this year, but they are in the midst of brutal scholarship reductions (10/yr) over the next three years. The AD understands that. kiffin ought to fire his dad, though-- the guy doesn't understand how to stop a spread offense, even with all 5* defenders.
in response to gobigorange5090: It's "couldn't care less."
in response to gobigorange5090:
It's "couldn't care less."
Sorry-- the internet has changed our language forever. Spelling is no longer important, nor is there any requirement that cliched phrases be written in a way that makes sense.The only time to point out poor message board grammar/spelling is when one poster is insulting another poster's intelligence.My favorite example, of course, is "your an idiot". Best internet insult ever...
I'm taking my daughter to the game, but if she says she wants to leave after 1 quarter, it won't break my heart.
in response to Snapshot: Worley was the Gatorade Nat. player of the year, so apparently someone thought he was pretty good. But I guess a veteran coach like you knows better, right? What makes you think you are any kind of a judge of football talent? I don't know if he can be a starting qb or not, I'm certainly not going to put any stock in an opinion from a tool like you.
in response to Snapshot:
Worley was the Gatorade Nat. player of the year, so apparently someone thought he was pretty good. But I guess a veteran coach like you knows better, right? What makes you think you are any kind of a judge of football talent?
I don't know if he can be a starting qb or not, I'm certainly not going to put any stock in an opinion from a tool like you.
Good point. Worley also had offers from uf, LSU, FSU, Stanford, and ND, among others. Tennessee wasn't the only school that saw his potential.
in response to carbonatedmilk: (This comment was removed by the site staff.)
in response to carbonatedmilk:
I would personally guess that CP is the least likely to stay, regardless of who the next coach is.
in response to FWBVol: OK, John, technically you could say that Bray has been through one coaching change as he was a Kiffin recruit who enrolled early and was on campus for a few days. But Bray never had one spring practice in the Kiffin system so it's a stretch to say that he has really been through a coaching change like the older guys. Hunter wasn't even a Kiffin recruit. He was targeted by Dooley and didn't arrive on campus until the summer of 2010 so this will/would be his first coaching change at Tennessee.
in response to FWBVol:
OK, John, technically you could say that Bray has been through one coaching change as he was a Kiffin recruit who enrolled early and was on campus for a few days. But Bray never had one spring practice in the Kiffin system so it's a stretch to say that he has really been through a coaching change like the older guys.
Hunter wasn't even a Kiffin recruit. He was targeted by Dooley and didn't arrive on campus until the summer of 2010 so this will/would be his first coaching change at Tennessee.
I was wondering about that, also. I'm guessing JA was talking about the assistant coaches leaving after last season, but the OC stayed, and the QB coach became the receivers coach.
in response to 1vavolfan: If you look on Mel Kiper's Big Board the cover photo is Patterson who is ranked as the #12 overall player. It would be nuts for him not to go. Hunter was projected to go in the 1st round at the beginning of the season but is no longer there, personally I hope he doesn't get drafted by my team (Carolina). Bray is nowhere to be found, if you have watched any NFL you realize he has neither the body, attitude, or intelligence at this point to be an NFL QB. If Bray doesn't come back he's getting some Scotty Hopson like advice.
in response to 1vavolfan:
If you look on Mel Kiper's Big Board the cover photo is Patterson who is ranked as the #12 overall player. It would be nuts for him not to go. Hunter was projected to go in the 1st round at the beginning of the season but is no longer there, personally I hope he doesn't get drafted by my team (Carolina). Bray is nowhere to be found, if you have watched any NFL you realize he has neither the body, attitude, or intelligence at this point to be an NFL QB. If Bray doesn't come back he's getting some Scotty Hopson like advice.
Scotty Hopson is making really good money, he can still develop his game where he is, and his NBA prospects would have been slim even with an extra year of college ball.I don't see the correlation with Bray at all.I agree about Cordarrelle looking like a 1st rounder, although some folks on these boards are saying that he's a 2nd rounder-- I don't see that, myself. A scout who sees him play will want him as a 1st rounder, I think.Some folks on these boards are saying Hunter still is a 1st rounder, but I can't see how that would be. However, I wouldn't have thought that Jamal Lewis was going to be a 1st rounder after his senior season, and he was the fifth pick in the 1st round. It might sound like blasphemy, but I've wondered if he made a deal with Baltimore prior to his senior season.
in response to NeylandWest: It's my honor to serve, but I wish they'd deploy me to Fiji, Hawaii or some other tropical place! :) In times past, I lucked out and got to be home for the big holidays. This time around I wasn't so lucky, but it's all good. My unit should be home by summer 2013. Eat a turkey leg for me!
in response to NeylandWest:
It's my honor to serve, but I wish they'd deploy me to Fiji, Hawaii or some other tropical place! :)
In times past, I lucked out and got to be home for the big holidays. This time around I wasn't so lucky, but it's all good. My unit should be home by summer 2013. Eat a turkey leg for me!
Sounds good. I'm hoping your next deployment is to some peaceful tropical paradise.
in response to UTVolWarrior98: So what if Glenn whoever called him Doofus Dooloser..thats HIS ENTITLEMENT AND OPINION!! Remember freedom of speech people?? Well, hes speaking his mind and if that is what he wants to call him, than let him. I have called him that numerous times and still feel the same way. He was a total clown and when he talked, I wanted to bash his face in!!
in response to UTVolWarrior98:
So what if Glenn whoever called him Doofus Dooloser..thats HIS ENTITLEMENT AND OPINION!! Remember freedom of speech people?? Well, hes speaking his mind and if that is what he wants to call him, than let him. I have called him that numerous times and still feel the same way. He was a total clown and when he talked, I wanted to bash his face in!!
No one suggested that he/she should not have freedom of speech. Some suggested that he/she should shut up, though, and others have called him/her an idiot. They have the right to say that, you know.You might consider anger management methods. It would probably be beneficial for your health.
in response to NeylandWest: Thanks Coach Sal! You took a risk and you tried. When other coaches (7) decided to bail on us after last season, things did not look good for Vol Nation. I'll go back further. When Dooley was hired, zero big-named coaches were beating down our doors begging to coach here. It drives me crazy that people overlook that! No, I'm not a "Dooley fan". I am a TN alum and a TN fan. I want what is right and just. I wish people would remember that Dooley didn't kill this program. It was poisoned years earlier. And Dooley just had the audacity to come in here and take a risk, try to fix it and do what no one else wanted to do at that time. Coach Sal tried the same thing. I applaud them for their efforts and wish them the best. I'm sorry it didn't work out for them and for us. Best of luck to this staff! Hope all of Vol Nation has a great Thanksgiving. Say a prayer for me and the boys over here in Asscrackistan. A special thanks to the USO and others that take care of us and make deployments easier, especially when they give us tv's to watch the games back home. Y'all take care and Go Vols!
Thanks Coach Sal! You took a risk and you tried. When other coaches (7) decided to bail on us after last season, things did not look good for Vol Nation.
I'll go back further. When Dooley was hired, zero big-named coaches were beating down our doors begging to coach here. It drives me crazy that people overlook that!
No, I'm not a "Dooley fan". I am a TN alum and a TN fan. I want what is right and just. I wish people would remember that Dooley didn't kill this program. It was poisoned years earlier. And Dooley just had the audacity to come in here and take a risk, try to fix it and do what no one else wanted to do at that time.
Coach Sal tried the same thing. I applaud them for their efforts and wish them the best. I'm sorry it didn't work out for them and for us.
Best of luck to this staff! Hope all of Vol Nation has a great Thanksgiving. Say a prayer for me and the boys over here in Asscrackistan. A special thanks to the USO and others that take care of us and make deployments easier, especially when they give us tv's to watch the games back home.
Y'all take care and Go Vols!
Thanks for your service. I hope and pray that you get to return home safely very soon.
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