Comments by vut5686#1405392

Written on Mike Strange: Tyndall's dream job begins with mending :

in response to OrangePride:

Great post....it totally sums up our situation, both past and present. +1

ditto. Some have screamed that UT just lay out the bucks and sign whoever. Now they nit-pic a deal that seems fair to all concerned, market driven and consistent with current league situations. The continued criticism of Hart is part of the times (sadly), I suppose. But it is not driven by fact backed points concerning specific decisions he has made. He inherited a mess; he is working his way through it. This coach seems a good choice. If Jesus Christ had been hired, as of this point, he would not have won a game. And, ultimately, that is what matters and we are far from even the first test. Negative whining is just that and serve no purpose at this time.

Written on Mike Strange: Tyndall's dream job begins with mending :

It is not a perfect world. This coach has not won the last three national championships, but wanting to be a Vol For Life, chucked it all to come to Knoxville.

Under the ever glaring eye of media, fans and critics..every hair out of place, every past glitch and the fact he has not won those last three NCs...will be fodder for the mill; there will be criticism from those who seem to get more from life by being negative than positive. All these aspects will be fed by a news machine whose business it is to appeal to those with such appetites.

He is ours; those who wish him ill should find someone else to cheer for...if such exists. We owe it to him, his players and our university to cheer their efforts until we can cheer louder for results. Good luck, Coach.

Written on [Updated] Tennessee hires Southern Mississippi's Donnie Tyndall as men's basketball coach:

in response to AxeMan:

His coaching abilities got him hired here in the first place. When he got here it was a train wreck. NCAA hanging over heads, probation, commitments de-commiting, players leaving, experts predicting we would be in the cellar. His coaching abilities got us a 2nd, 5th & 4th in the league, the 3rd most wins in the league over 3 years and a return to the Sweet 16. Maybe it's not about race with some of you people. Maybe you're just too dumb to know coaching ability when it's not wrapped up in a self serving sales pitch? But for some it's all about having a black man in a position of authority. They can't stand it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions; not their facts. Well stated facts, AxeMan.

Written on [Updated] Tennessee hires Southern Mississippi's Donnie Tyndall as men's basketball coach:

Ok; here are some statistics: (Thus far) fifty one people have chimed in on this subject; some are just repeats. The comments are from A to Z, with a few being removed. The first statistic is that this number is such a small sampling of Volunteer fan support that it would be scientifically insignificant.

This guy is our coach. We have, and have had issues that make it impossible/unrealistic/never going to happen that some "name" "top tier" coach was going to be hired. Clamoring for such is wasted breath and no administration nor official could change that at this point.

While we should welcome and support this guy, we need to put this into perspective: he had just signed a contract with significant terms (to his employer)and left to come here. If he was leaving Knoxville in this situation, we would likely be throwing burning mattresses out of dorms. While some seem to look down their noses at this hiring, where he is leaving wanted him badly.

You want him to be successful? Of course, but if he is, he is just as likely to bolt and run for a really big time program, if the opportunity presents itself. If you lure a good candidate, for every winner, there is a loser. We are the winners; Southern Mississippi is the loser and don't forget that for a minute.

This is just about sports; not life, death or national security. Coaches come, coaches go; teams win and teams lose. Most "top tier" programs have a fan base that supports the program, roots for those school colors...win or lose and takes a longer term view of what it is all about, rather than knee jerk reactions to every little nuance of the moment.

UT will suit up and play ball next winter. They likely will perform better if we show up and support them, rather than huff, puff and bad mouth the circus that is trying to provide us with entertainment.

Written on Report: Louisiana Tech coach Michael White likely to remain with Bulldogs after talks with Tennessee :

A very vocal minority continues to make the point that UT needs to throw "whatever" amount of money to lure a "big name" BB coach. As if that alone would entice the chosen one to come. That view is probably most frequently offered by those who contribute little to support the University, as a whole. Four years of tuition does not count; that does not cover the cost of a college education. Consider this:

(In 2012) UTK's endowment fund is around $650MM. Harvard, at number one, is around $24 BILLION. Think they care about keeping up with the Jones' of the athletic world? Florida and Vanderbilt endowments are multiples of that UT enjoys.

A positive fact is that UT's athletic dept. has been generally self sufficient through the years, remitting a small amount back to the University. Few (even big time) schools do that. But a point to consider: athletics seem to have little effect on the overall financial health of our university....or very many.

This discussion could go on forever. Just screaming to throw money on the table is neither assurance of success, in the best interest of the university now nor likely to add much value in the long term.

Might it be a good investment for the Athletic Department? Perhaps. (if they, as an independent business could afford it.) Be that factual, it just make a strong case that "big time" athletics actually do very little to further the long term financial interest of any University. The majority of those who enjoy the largest endowments (at least one good measure of interest and support) are not big time in the athletic world

If one doubts that, just ask Harvard.

Written on Report: Louisiana Tech coach Michael White likely to remain with Bulldogs after talks with Tennessee :

Not defending the administration but think about this: UT guarantees a "top tier" coach ....say $3MM...for five years and big buy out, and he flops for 2-3 years; for whatever reasons. Every commenter on this site would be "circulating a petition....". That, and calling the administration bone-headed idiots for committing the University for such length. Now, we criticize them for not signing a blank, life time check just to get a warm body. The fact White is not jumping at a chance to likely double his salary is indicative of how hard a sell UT is right now. If he is not frothing at the mouth to come here, think how hard the "top tier" guys are laughing.

If one looks at the entire picture, we ought to give Hart a raise if he finds anybody. There is no guarantee anybody can make us a final four contestant; there is an equal chance any winning coach at a lesser conference, with otherwise impressive credentials, can succeed. Let's embrace who ever we get....'cause he is ours....and will lead the Orange for better or worse. Fan support never hurts.

Written on CBSSports.com report has UT's coaching search pointing toward Louisiana Tech's Michael White :

in response to FWBVol:

The closest thing to a "name" basketball coach UT has hired in my lifetime (and I'll be 56 in a few weeks) is Jerry Green after Kevin O'Neill left.

Ray Mears was at some little bity school in Ohio when he was hired. Don DeVoe come from Wyoming. Wade Houston was about the ninth or 10th choice and was an assistant at Louisville. Kevin O'Neill was offered the UT job after his Marquette team beat Kentucky in the NCAA tournament.

When O'Neill bolted for Northwestern after a fallout with Doug Dickey, Dickey was able to land Green from Oregon and that's the best name we've landed. Buzz was a supposed up and comer that crashed and burned at UT.

Hamilton nailed the hire with Pearl and Martin did an adequate job. Both Pearl and Martin came from mid majors.

So if you go back 50 years our biggest hires have been coaches from Oregon, Marquette and Wyoming.

I believe UT has a decent basketball history. The only two programs with a better basketball history are Kentucky and Florida. And Florida has only become a basketball school since Donavon took the job.

People comparing White and Dooley haven't done their internet homework. If White accepts the job will he win big? I hope so, but I don't know.

The only sure thing is something that happened in the past.

That about nails it. There is no definition nor consensus regarding what a "top tier" coach would look like. If those clamoring for same are thinking Duke, FL, KY, Louisville, CONN, etc., that is neither practical nor constructive thinking.

A "top tier" coach could be one who has won at any level. It would be a plus if he (as other have mentioned) has a little P.T. Barnum in him, looks good on TV selling potato chips and can recruit. It might be of short term value if he smiles at fans and genuflects to the local press. Long term, if he attends to his business, that time will probably be wasted.

Looking at it this way, there are dozens of "top tier" candidates and we should just hope we get one.

As FWBVOL put it, nothing is for sure. A top tier who would follow the money here (if we had it) would follow it somewhere else just as fast. With no guarantee he would earn it here.

Written on CBSSports.com report has UT's coaching search pointing toward Louisiana Tech's Michael White :

in response to GBOEngineer:

Actually, the administration is exactly the reason "top tier" guys aren't interested. Hart treated Martin poorly and it wouldn't surprise me if any coach with half decent options would avoid working for him.

Roger that. Hart gets tagged an Alabama guy, which to many becomes an ugly word, as in Florida....or, just maybe, black. It would seem our distaste for the color of uniform....or, perhaps, even skin...greatly limits our acceptance of many candidates. Be that as it may, where do we expect to get a "top tier" athletic director...or coach. What is "top tier"?

This term is thrown around but is there a consensus as to what it means? Do we really expect Hart to hire a coach from any of the final eight teams? (Just arbitrarily picking a number) It would seem, from a practical standpoint, a winning coach from any level (meaning other than major conferences) should be considered. On a personal basis, if that person showed consistent improvement, looked good on the TV show and had a record of improvement through recruiting, that would appear to equal "top tier." If we headline the job requirement as "winner," that would seem to open the field of candidates to a much greater list of applicants and if we land one, we should all be pleased.

We, perhaps, all agree we want a "winner." Don't recall seeing a specific definition of "top tier;" I suspect there as many (definitions) as there are comment contributors.

Written on CBSSports.com report has UT's coaching search pointing toward Louisiana Tech's Michael White :

in response to UTANDNOBAMA:

Yes it is his fault if no one is interested. It's his job to sell this place. We have the money, facilities and conference affiliation to bring in a good proven coach... What we need is an AD who can negotiate that deal. This is still way to early to speculate...we have been through all of this before... But make no mistake...this hire is squarely on the shoulders of one Dave Hart... And saying no one good is interested in coming here is not a valid excuse.

Tennessee sells itself; the good and the bad. Simple fact is that if no one ("good, proven") comes running, when called, or raises their hand and shows interest, nothing Hart, Andy Holt or C.E Brehm can/could have done to change that. No means no. One cannot negotiate a deal unless someone is interested in a deal.

UT is not going to pay a basketball coach more than Jones is making; that, and currently, they really do not have 3.5-5 million to hand out to that "proven" coach...who as of now, seems to be in hiding.

Put simply, if we can only support and be happy cheering for a "proven" coach, forget whoever we get and cheer for Duke, Kentucky, Louisville or Connecticut. Remember: all those coaches started somewhere.

Written on CBSSports.com report has UT's coaching search pointing toward Louisiana Tech's Michael White :

If we assign this article any validity, it also said UT had "...reached out to MULTIPLE top tier coaches....." and no interest there. Cannot blame the administration if no "top tier" guys want to come. We must get in the pickle barrel and take some blame. Our fan base is part of the picture.

There is a difference in wanting to win vs. turning totally ugly when you lose. We have been the latter for three years, and while the support of Vol basketball has still been top tier, "top tier" coaches see the rest of the Knoxville circus and simply think: "Why would I risk my career in that mess"?

So, we are left with the Whites of the world, and IF we land one, we should be thankful.

Again, if the article is based on any fact, Hart has tried. Not his fault if no one is interested.

Written on Bruce Pearl: Cuonzo Martin didn't seem happy at Tennessee:

That Martin did not seem happy at Tennessee would seem obvious; he left. But, Pearl opining on this cast a reflection on Martin's three years here, and Pearl did his "beloved Vols" no favor by relating that. As others point out, his "Vol For Life" quote would seem strange to his new home; gotta be some flak there.

If stoic and reserved equals unhappy and antimated like a wound up toy equals happy, ...at times I will take unhappy. A steady overdose of Pearl gets hard to digest.

Written on Nearly 5,000 votes later, GVX readers name their choice for the next head basketball coach:

Let's see: (Well worded) logic rules out our top two choices. Pitino and the Colorado guy have already said, "Not interested." They probably will lead the parade or those so disinclined. We already are in single digits as to Vol fan interest. So, whoever we get is likely not going to please the majority of (at least) vocal fans.

The Belmont guy gets many favorable comments; he would be within our price range. But, to go for him runs counter to the oft voiced claim that "We have to hire a big name, successful coach." One presumably reaching the NCAAs on a regular basis.

When it is said and done, we might wish we had been nicer to the last guy. Any up and comer is unproven at major conference level; one plays their cards and takes their chances.

Written on John Adams: Pay raise proves UT football isn't all about winning:

Here is the thing: read in its entirety, this is not a bad article and concludes with a punch line that makes a good point. The problem is the headline and dragging in all Vol negatives to make his point. Far better that he zeroed in on Thigpen's actual schedules, efforts, techniques, etc., and just centered on the successes that merits the raise. That would, of course, have required some effort and research. We will be gracious and assume some one other than John chose the headline.

JA just cancels a worthy thought line by emphasizing the negatives. That trait is what gets him criticized.

Written on John Adams: UT's next move needs to be as good as Cuonzo Martin's was :

in response to johnlg00:

The one thing all of the "open the checkbook" crowd seems to be forgetting is that a real "WOW!" hire, such as the flavor-of-the-month Greg Marshall, will probably take north of $3mil/yr. The two SEC basketball programs UT is trying to catch pay their coaches over $4mil/yr. In case you hadn't noticed, Butch Jones only makes about $2.5mil/yr and he has a 100,000-seat stadium to fill.

It is just a fact that UT is a FOOTBALL school. There is, IMHO, NO WAY UT is ever going to pay a basketball coach more than the football coach. IMHO, it would take MORE than current Butch Jones type money to get anybody other than another mid-major "up-and-comer". Nobody with an established winning record at a high-major level would touch the current UT situation for less than top dollar. In that case, we might get a Pearl or we might get another Peterson or Martin. Hart is going to have to hit the equivalent of an inside-the-park home run, since he doesn't have the bat to swing for the fences.

Perhaps in another couple of years, if Jones has the Vols in national contention and looking like they might stay there and Neyland Stadium becomes a tight ticket again, the football program would be making BIG money, Jones might seem worth Saban-type money, and THEN UT might come up with Calapari- or at least Donovan-type money for a basketball coach.

Just simply opening the checkbook right now is not an option because there isn't all that much IN the checkbook. For now, we can only PRETEND that we are shopping at Nieman-Marcus because we have at best a Macy's budget. Anyone who disagrees with this, please tell me how I am wrong.

This is the most accurate depiction of our situation thus far; those who have clamored...past and present...for a "big name" are going to be sorely disappointed; not going to happen. Any "up and comer" will be just as much a gamble as was Martin; if lightening does not strike, we will be just as frustrated in a year or two as we were three months ago. That and the Gator who related our reactions to coaches past might have rankled a few Smokeys but he described our past pretty well. The facts of our past speak for themselves.

The best we can hope for is that Hart lands an up and comer who, on the surface, shows some credibility.

Written on Mike Strange: Hire a guy who can prove the joke's not on Tennessee any more:

Names are being floated around. Even Strange seems to suggest it will be tough to land a big one (Marshall, for example). If money would do it, does UT really have the money, or are they willing/able to come up with it?

Would any "up and comer" be acceptable?

Would the right up and comer want UT? He will likely realize he (the right up and comer) will land somewhere else, soon; somewhere less volatile and divisive than Tennessee.

It can happen. The dice are just being rolled at this point.

Written on [Updated] Cuonzo Martin leaving UT for California; search for his replacement begins:

in response to TNlogfire:

2 words, 1 name.....Rick Byrd.

Is Mr. Byrd someone all the Martin naysayers will support? I don't know; just asking.

He makes around $750-785M; we could afford him. Yet, if we pay for what we are getting and not what we expect, or what the program we claim to be should be, he will be underpaid and a target for a better job if he excels...even after one year. This is the treadmill we find ourselves on: hire cheap, not support, fail to act decisively in a timely manner and now....starting over again. Have we learned anything?

Written on ‘Ahhh:’ Coast is clear for Cuonzo Martin at Cal :

From the "program's" standpoint, this appears lose-lose. Martin's supporters will likely either say, "Traitor; he said this is where he wanted to be," or, "Who can blame him, after the way he was treated"?

His detractors will just say, "Good riddance; never should have been hired in the first place." Either view, UT loses. Detractors will find out and supporters will have their view confirmed that we will not capture a "Big Name" or even a "Recognizable Name," offering 11 out of 13 ranked salary range.

We may never know the inside workings of this situation. If Martin was going to be retained, it should have happened even before tournament time and in a decisive manner. Since Hart vacillated, correctly or not, it implied questionable support for Martin.

I hope there is a silver lining; I just do not see the light right now.

Written on Jarnelll Stokes says college athletes need more money:

in response to oldster:

How much food could he buy for the cost of the tats? How much could he get for the amount he pays for a cell phone?

I had no tats, no phone - at all, shared a room in a boarding house with another guy, and a toilet and shower with 12 others, and worked as many hours to earn the money for my tuition, books, rent, food, clothes and recreation as athletes do working to earn their scholarships. They get free tuition, free books, tutors, food allowances, a free dorm room, or housing allowance. Sorry, I do not pity them. There are more people like me than like them.

Also, how does one determine who gets what money? Do the Stokes of the world get the same amount as the Lopezes or Cheivoses? If not, and the stars get more, will that not lead to say point guards like Darius Thompson keeping the ball away from the stars and shooting in order to pump up his worth and paycheck?

Nope, if you do not like what the college is offering, go to Europe and learn your craft there. I will not miss you.

There is nothing wrong with this logic; it is factual, historic and depicts one side of the equation: the player's. It sides with the status quo, and suggest athletes be happy with their lot. They signed on.

What is does not address is the other side. For starters, why should coaches be paid more than professors? It was said Woody Hayes refused to be paid more than that. (Rumor; I have not verified it.) But that was clearly in another time. Why should a college coach earn more than a high school coach, who, exists on a teachers salary plus a (usually) small stipend. One could argue a high school coach, who might labor in the same place for a lifetime, contributes more to society than any college coach. As in most industries, we (fans, society) just place more value on the college coach than the high school coach...and that value has increased out of proportion to the players'.

I happened to have washed the first dish in the newly opened student center at UT; I worked up to full time to get by. I was paid minimum wage. My managers and supervisors were paid more....but not much; it was porportionate.

The situation now, between the workers (players) and the rest (coaches, media, marketers, university giving efforts, tied to athletics,....is simply out of proportion.

There is a strong argument that athletics do little, if anything, to further the basic purpose of a college. Some argue it promotes interest....and contributions....that help all facets of university life. If that be true, it cancels the argument that players should just be thankful for their room, board and tuition. If fans, alumni and the public will not support their school "without" athletics, they obviously do not value that schools purpose on its own merits. So, why should players?

Again, there is no balance. Can't argue that players should be content and look the other way while all the rest help themselves to the take.

Written on Jarnelll Stokes says college athletes need more money:

This issue will not be resolved in my lifetime; it is going to get messy.....ugly and nobody may win. However...

In a long ago time, the General rounded up players, gave them a chance for a college education, took care of them as best he could and that was about it. The Vols...and most teams...probably rarely broke even. The system worked for everybody.

That same opportunity works for players now. And, that is no small opportunity. However, the player's situation has not changed much in the past eighty years; only the coaches, schools, marketers, merchants, media, fans...the list go on; every one else involved has been rewarded exponentially by work of the players. Players, under rules as they exist, really are boxed in and helpless; all the rest have just sauntered up to the trough and helped themselves...with no rules prevailing that limit the take. The NCAA, while fattening itself, writes rules to keep the status quo. Players stay broke, unless daddy can help with date money while the cash register rings for every other segment of the system. Most major changes in society, or revolutions, for that matter, come about because of an unlevel playing field...or the excess of one part of society vs. another.

Stokes's well stated case should be applauded. He simply states a glaring problem in an objective and non-bitter manner. Good luck to him.

Written on John Adams: No matter who starts, UT will be better at quarterback:

Okay; encouraging. But, I ask someone to research: did any team ever retain four hold-over quarterbacks and start the year WORSE than the year before?

Written on John Adams: Right sales pitch could keep UT quarterbacks on board:

in response to mgryon#440761:

Another detailed article by Adams with lots of new information. What a waste; can't we ship him back to LA? Why do we have to be stuck with his slop? Seems like every other writer for NS passes through, but Adams hangs around. Can't wait for his next article - bet it is one of his lame attempts at comedy.

I thank you for displaying a kindred spirit. We often get criticized for taking Adams on; usually, the charge is that we do not want him to, "Tell it like it is." With me, it is never that. It is because, as others point out today, he tries to be funny, but is not; he states the obvious, his offerings are high school, at best, and KNS readers just deserve better.

As for the QBs, what is there we do not know? Worley has played with poor teams and the rest, have either not played...or played with the same poor teams. Jones task is to select the best of the lot and hope the chosen one, as well as the team, improves. Case closed.

Written on Ooltewah's Jacques Smith eyeing UT degree, NFL chance:

Mr. Smith had two great plans, and in the correct order: degree, then the NFL. If he wishes to reach out and help others, perhaps he would have no greater platform than college football players. The chances for making the NFL are so slim and the opportunity for a degree so great, it is hard to fathom why so (relatively) few make it. He (Smith) can always show others how it is possible; perhaps, to achieve both,

Written on During Paul Finebaum visit, Butch Jones quizzed about Lane Kiffin:

I respect Jones for taking the high road, regarding Kiffin; political correctness, however, takes a back seat to facts. "Respect for what he has accomplished"? "Great football coach"?

He flunked at Oakland, showed his true colors at UT with mostly negative painting and flunked at USC. If he was a first round draft pick in the NFL, he would be touted the biggest bust ever. He has been paid the most to accomplish the least of any coaches one can name. What he may have or might yet accomplish wearing the headphones can be debated. Head coach? Nada.

Written on Tyler Summitt named women's basketball coach at Louisiana Tech:

in response to BOS1989:

Sounds like Tyler will one day be coaching at UT.

I am not quite getting that noise, yet. He has not won a game.

But, if he is successful, it will be out there. Let's just pretend he has a winning year at LT and Vols only win a couple in the NCAA: I hope we don't start coveting our neighbor's wife. If we are already good, we don't automatically become great just because we hire good. Time will take care of time, if we leave time alone. (Waylon)

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols one great player short of Final Four:

in response to oldster:

I believe that the point of an editorial, any editorial, is to elicit responses. Adams seems to have done a pretty good job of that in this instance, wouldn't you say?

Backed into the corner when only yes or no is available, yes, of course. It would just seem more productive if we were "responding" to an original thought, fresh news, in-depth insight or something worthy of debate. Rehashing the obvious seems a worthwhile hobby for many; I simply wish we were directed toward something more productive.

You point, however, is valid.

Written on John Adams: No skepticism about Cuonzo Martin's toughness:

I supposed it would be only gracious to allow JA to change his mind; we all make mistakes. A few weeks ago, the record will show he proclaimed NCAA success or no, Martin must go.

After all, who is to hold Senior Writers accountable? They, who set the tone for how we should feel about coaches...and yes, players, wear Teflon when it comes to their own shortcomings.

Hey; the world ain't always fair. Guess this is as close to an about face as we will likely get from JA in awhile; we should enjoy the moment.

Written on Tyler Summitt named women's basketball coach at Louisiana Tech:

This could be win-win for everybody. How could he do worse than LT did this year? It also makes an interesting point: A position often taken by UT fans has been our coaching hires should (always) be "a proven, big time, tournament (or BCS Bowl) experienced name individual. Nothing less, or fans raise their ire. But, the catch is: where do these coaches start? LT, which has known "big times," is willing to take a chance on Tyler; he has obviously made some positive impressions in the last two years and Lord know he has the pedigree. But, if someone is unwilling to take that first chance, the Sabans, Summitts or Woodens of the sports world would never exist. Kudos to LT for this choice and Kudos to Tyler for paying his dues to become a good choice. I would tend to bet on him.

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols one great player short of Final Four:

in response to johnwoodward48#1427254:

I see many comments here chastising John Adams for being too negative or not supportive enough, and cannot help but laugh. Having moved here from the Philadelphia (Pa.) area. I can honestly say you have no idea what a negative press really is like. I can also say the Knoxville area is incredibly supportive of Tennessee teams. People were disappointed, of course, just like the team was. That is a mark of passion and is a good thing. I have been a season ticket holder for the last several years for Lady Vols basketball, and think the fan support is fantastic ..... best in the country. There is no better place to play except perhaps U.Conn where they can guarantee a spot in an ESPN commercial.

That said, it is one thing to be blindly loyal as a fan, and another to honestly assess the performance of the team, as long as one remains respectful. We have gotten our share of highly touted recruits, but it is hard to know which high school players will dominate (Brianna Stewart) and which may not. But don't blame Adams for essentially pointing out the facts.

Your points are well taken, and I agree Adams should be neither a "homer" for the Vols nor avoid the truth, if the truth hurts. Perhaps I draw too fine a line in often taking him to task.

Today, for instance: Everyone understands that, from a results standpoint, the LVs need a player who can take over, be a game changer and dominate. That understood, what is the point of the article? It is neither news, original nor instructive as to how we attract such players.

And, as I pointed out, his outlined needs for the LVs are no different than the needs of most teams not still standing. Probably far fewer of such individuals are available than the need for them. We have a great history. Tennessee really has not slipped that much; many other teams have just caught up. Sure, we expect...and hope we can out compete the Notre Dames, Conn., etc...for such players, but in the last several years, those programs offer as much "history" to eighteen year old high school girls as does Tennessee. We just hope we get our share. It is not news that we need them. Hence, nothing informative in this article today.

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols one great player short of Final Four:

Very insightful. This story should be picked up by about a dozen or more other teams that are not in the final four. Baylor, Texas A & M, whatever teams lose tonight and a few others should send this scoop to their hometown press and share the wisdom. Sure, Vols need to recruit "take over" or "game changing" players, but there are not enough to go around. And yes, Conn and Notre Dame have cornered the market in recent years.

Everybody wants to win. But, as with the boy Vols, the negativism toward losing in Knoxville might scare off some of those game changers.

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols fold under tournament pressure:

Most posts are objective and simply state what the entire world has seen. Can't fault an article that just points out the obvious. When facing top talent, if we do not score, defend, handle the ball or hustle....the result is predictable. Talent, coaching....take your pick. Talent usually wins...with average coaching and I think we have that...or better.

Written on Mike Strange: Keeping Cuonzo Martin is UT's safest play:

I think Strange and Adams need to have an editorial meeting. A couple of weeks ago, Adams said Martin must go, regardless of NCAA results. The Nashville guy said at least two NCAA wins would be necessary for Martin's redemption. Now, Strange jumps the editorial board ship, and votes for Martin to stay. It's confusing, as we allow ourselves to be led by these print media pied pipers. Fact is, (I think Strange is the straightest of the lot) these guys just pump out a few paragraphs every day....it's their job, of course,..... without a clue whether their views are viable, make sense, are possible/practical or if many really care. The shame is we all too often use it as an excuse to spew all kinds of rubbish that is just as off base and ill timed as the articles we begin the discussion with.

Written on Report: Marquette targeting Tennessee's Cuonzo Martin for head coaching vacancy:

in response to mbavol:

100% agree.

125% agree. Anyone is entitled to their opinion; no one is entitled to "their" facts. The only sensible course of action is a prompt extension for Martin, and vocal support for his program. Less just sets it (the program) back .....maybe for a long time. Next year's team may or may not be big winners; Stokes coming back would be great. All this anti-Martin stuff sure does not help that. Players coming back next year have shown promising talent as role players. They should improve. For those many predicting gloom and doom are just piling on their dis-like for Martin. As has be laid out in other posts, Martin's three years have been a plus over many, many other UT years. If we do not show more support and intelligent reaction to what we now have, we could easily slip into the 300+ Div I teams that never have a shot at the Big Show. That is called unintended consequences.

Written on David Climer: UT Vols let one get away:

The call may well be debated forever; it is what it is.

A writer being objective would have simply headlined, "Michigan pulls one out," which is closer to what happened. Pointless to debate an out of town, non-Vol. Not a good first half; we beat them the second. We just came up short, in a good effort, great game.

Written on Tennessee's tournament run comes to an end after rally against Michigan falls just short, 73-71:

Great comeback; no quit. Others will frame this game and what might have/could have been. Seems we just could not defend the perimeter and in the paint at the same time. Our movement on defense was not up to the last three games but I think Michigan had a lot to do with that. They just won the first half a couple of points more than we won the second. Hats off to Michigan and great game, Vols.

Written on Iowa coach Fran McCaffery thanks Cuonzo Martin, Volunteers for actions after loss:

in response to KevDVol:

It is nice to hear about our players exhibiting the kind character that any parent would hope to instill in their son or daughter.

The last time we were in this tournament the focus was on recruiting violations and our coach lying to the NCAA. Some of our players from that "successful" season had been involved in an incident involving guns and marijuana. It is easy to forget that Cuonzo Martin chose to come to Tennessee despite the negative press, questionable team culture and pending NCAA sanctions and restrictions. It is also easy to forget that Bruce Pearl lost his job for displaying a lack of character and professional integrity - by lying to the NCAA and asking recruits and their parents to do the same.

We now have a coach and his players trying to do things the right way. So, put away the petitions and be proud to be a Volunteer - with good reason.

Good post. This view, and others in the same vein, put this entire situation in perspective. Moaning for what might never have been (anyway) and ignoring what we already have is so much wasted energy. Crying to bring back a cheater to replace a good man who has developed a good team defies logic.

Written on Iowa coach Fran McCaffery thanks Cuonzo Martin, Volunteers for actions after loss:

Why can't UT fans balance their angst over all things basketball, by weighing this story, and the positives of this team against the fact we may not make it to the final four? Guess what: we never have. Few teams do; we are in the mix and have our shot. Something is drastically wrong if we can only be proud of coaches and players wearing Orange, if they win thirty and are the last men standing.

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to gc_scvol:

So, they've made this a free site again. Good move KNS. Now we can listen to the trolls' B******T again. Thanks for screwing this site up. (As if it needed help).

I have sent an e-mail to KNS asking about this; seems fishy when 171 jump in with all this negative phooey and the most response (as of this moment) to any of the other, several articles is 12. I will take this measured interest...or no interest....as a better gauge of reality as opposed to 171 freeloaders who really have no dog in this fight.

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to VibrantVol:

It is so sad that our University of Tennessee, Knoxville, administration ignores our fans & refuses to consider hiring Bruce Pearl, while Auburn ignores what the NCAA & SEC thinks & hires him. Auburn wants to win & fill their arena. UT simply doesn't care. We need to replace our Board of Trustees, our President,our Chancellor, & our Athletics Director. All are failing in responding to their constituents. Even though Auburn was last in the SEC this year in basketball, they will beat the Tennessee Vols basketball team next season with Pearl at their helm, outcoaching Martin easily.

Let's see: "UTK administration ignores our fans and refuses to consider hiring BP"? The majority of "fans" showing up to post here take that as a mortal sin. Further, those "fans" believe "...we need to replace our Board of Trustees, President, Chancellor and AD..." As opposed to hiring Coach Pearl. These "fans" tend to ignore the other facts pointed out on this site...as well as all our drawn out past events: Coach Pearl was caught cheating, lying..and has been accused of other moral transgressions. I am not the judge. However, the fact that others will hire anyone with a talent for coaching a sport...regardless of proven moral deficiencies does not mean the University of Tennessee needs to. Pearl did good thing for UT and the Knoxville community; he was well paid for his services. I would love to have him as a neighbor. But, if I must choose mass dismissal, and my choice was the Board of Trustees, the President, the Chancellor and AD, or Pearl, on the basis of unquestionable evidence, Pearl walks the plank. We need to support what we have, not pine for what, actually, might never have been. We have players who will give their all this week, and hopefully, beyond; to weep, wail and gnash our teeth rather than support them, without all this garbage, simply separates true fans from nay-sayers.

Written on David Climer: Tennessee Vols need two NCAA Tournament wins to keep Cuonzo Martin's job:

What if they win three and look terrible? What if they play a near perfect game, but get beat in the second game by one point in overtime? With every coaching move made correctly?

This guy is just parroting Adams' proclamation a while back. Seems to me we need no out of town typist making decisions for UT. Stick to Vandy and Belmont.

Written on John Adams: Vols seasoned enough to surpass their seeding:

in response to jakethevolguy:

+1 Cut him loose and hire Marshall before it's too late!!

Isn't Marshall in the same conference Martin came from? I thought it was beneath our dignity to hire a coach from a "lesser conference." He has no "big time" experience. At least, that has been previously opined here. Based on Marshall's results this year, I think it will be too late when his caller ID shows "Tennessee."

Written on John Adams: Vols seasoned enough to surpass their seeding:

JA, since you have proclaimed Coach Martin must go, regardless of NCAA success, do you think UT should pull out the axe now, or let this simmer, as in the Coach Pearl caper?

After all, perhaps we could then "win some for the coach." Or, disgusted with "your" decision, the players might just not get on the bus to Toledo.

You are the self-appointed great decider: when do you choose to look Coach Martin in the eye and tell him to turn in his keys and playbook?

You see, John, the Devil is in the details.

Written on John Adams: Lady Vols still have room for improvement:

in response to wn#1414709:

I don't get what the beef is with this column. I think it is a fair analysis of the Lady Vols year and their performance this year in the SEC tournament. Consistent perimeter shooting and perimeter/dribble drive defense against opposing teams 2 and 3 position players have been a problem all season. Burdic plays more like a 4, and Jones is a defensive player with limited demonstrative offensive capabilities. Simmons is hot or cold on offense (she was cold during the SEC tournament) and her defense is spotty as well. (I love watching all three of these players play).
These limitations all showed up in losses with Vandy, Notre Dame, Kentucky, and to a lesser extent LSU, and Stanford. The Lady Vols have really overcome these deficiencies with ferocious rebounding (best exemplified by the Ga. Tech Game), superior post play (except maybe the Stanford Game), and team guts. It seems sometimes that Harrison has to have a double double every game to ensure that the Lady Vols win.
This means that the Lady Vols will not match up well against Notre Dame, UCONN, Baylor and maybe even North Carolina now that their Freshman have some experience under their belt in the Tournament.
I think this view is supported by The Lady Vol recruiting efforts. The addition of slick shooting wings Janna Tucker, Jaime Nared, and Middleton at point will solve some of these issues. (Aja Wilson could solve most them all by herself). This will allow Carter and Reynolds to move to the 2 guard position where by my eye they are better suited. Next year Holly will be 2 deep at every position, with Jones available for defensive assignments, and a sweet three ball shooting in coming freshman wing Kortney Dunbar for three point shooting situations.
A final 4 is possible for this years team with the right matchups, but it is hard to see them beating either Notre Dame or UCONN this year.....and I hate that!!!! Go Lady Vols. I have enjoyed watching you all year.....

The beef with this column is that yours is better. I just think readers deserve something other than the obvious...and that often served up sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek (Often foot in mouth).

Written on Contracts show Nike significantly outbid adidas on new apparel deal:

My; what breaking news. The Vols made this change for money.

Written on John Adams: Riley Ferguson's unknowns make him intriguing at quarterback :

Adams column is about what he and no one else knows: what might Ferguson bring to the table. Since he does not know, just a column of speculation. Most comments accurately depict what we know about the other three; each is a year older, has some experience and should improve. Would appear we have much needed depth, variety and the best guy will likely play. Adams just leads the trite parade (implying) that the most popular QB is the one on the bench. Let it play out.

Written on John Adams: Just making NCAA tournament wouldn't justify retaining Cuonzo Martin:

in response to STLVOLS:

OK-Change is good only if it is positive and not lateral or backwards.

Do any of you folks have a replacement name in mind other than Pearl? Specifically, whom do you hope Vols realistically might hire if your dream man Pearl is not hired?

Now, this comment hits at a most important point: who do we think is the savior?

Adams headline is that being among the 64 invited is not enough. Who among that 64 do we think will come to Knoxville, given our current stack of buyouts and short fuses? Better yet, who among the final eight, or so, would give up what they have for what we offer?

It is more than "Martin must go." The next question is, "What then."

Johnny come lately Adams may join the bandwagon, as he usually does, with the tar and feathers; he has no clue as to what happens afterwards.

Written on John Adams: No time for Butch Jones to cop out on discipline:

in response to snowpeapod#263184:

Some comments refer to people like myself as Adams haters, inbred, and ignorant. I can assure them nothing can be farther from the truth. I don't hate Adams and I don't attack him personally, just professionaly. I happen to think that he is a terrible sports writer. He rarely has an interesting fact based article and that is the reason I stopped reading his articles. I found out long ago that his articles contained information that an average intelligent high school freshman could come up with the same conclusion. Call us what you want but we do have the right to express our opinion and that's mine.

Well said. I would paraphrase this another way. Most of us, in general, who follow UT sports have an idea of its problems, happenings and enjoy its successes. We lack the time, being engaged in our life's work, to ferret out the daily nuances that would describe the comings and goings of all things and people connected to our Vols. That is where a reporter/columnist comes in. You see, he not only has the time; he is paid to use that time to find out things we do not already know and present them in a manner that is understandable, unbiased (if he is reporting) or thought provoking (if he is an op-ed writer)

Most criticism of Adams is simply that he does not do a good job; it has nothing to do with the subject matter he is covering. Critics of his critics seem unable to understand that distinction.

Written on John Adams: No time for Butch Jones to cop out on discipline:

Right out of the Adams school of junk garbage. He disqualifies himself for serious consideration when he mixes every pun, old news, trite comment and attempt at humor into this stew. Then, it becomes neither nor. Neither instructive nor to be seriously considered.

Butch Jones does not need Adams to advise him on team discipline. There are several serious aspects to the reports of this incident; they should be taken seriously...as I think most people believe Jones will. Adams removes himself as judge advocate for any involved.

Written on John Adams: Competition already heating up with UT recruits:

in response to johnlg00:

I'm not sure that idea works all that well in football, except perhaps for some free-spirited kick returner or wide receiver. Most of game action for most players consists of constantly repeating a limited series of rote motions which absolutely must be coordinated with everybody else on the team. The repetition of practice is the only way that kind of precision and consistency. If you have prima-donnas running around with the idea that they can loaf in practice and still play, it is poisonous to a whole team. Sure, there are great players out there who can play completely spontaneously, but everybody else NEEDS the practice repetitions, and I just think a coach plays with fire if he is perceived to be taking it easy in practice on "favorite" guys.

Don't disagree with your comments. Who practices best should play. However, who performs the best, in a team concept on Saturday, is who we want on the field. Usually, that will be who works the hardest; it is rare that fans don't question a coach's decision re: who plays. A player, who otherwise works at it, when given a chance just shines in a game atmosphere, should be used. Sometimes that will not be the rah-rah guy in the weight room...which was sort of one point of the article. I am just saying I would rather have a guy who performs on Saturday than a guy who starts a fight in the chow line or tosses water balloons down the sidewalk..just to show how macho he is.

I do agree that, usually, the harder they work...the better they get.

Written on Butch Jones embarrassed by party arrests:

The facts will sort themselves out; the claims, in total, add up to some pretty stupid and ill-thought out actions on several athletes' part. Regardless how harsh, a good lesson taught here might pay dividends later...if coach means what he says about his program. His entire roster needs to know how to party and how not to party. No compromises.

Written on John Adams: Competition already heating up with UT recruits:

After Oklahoma or Alabama, John will probably write, "They must have left their juice at the breakfast table." Practice should determine who plays....the first game. After that, what happens on Saturday is about all that really matters....and what should determine who plays.

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