Comments by volthrunthru#658770

Written on Reaction to new UT uniforms likely generational:

Yahoo is NOT generational, as most audience research shows---especially Yahoo Sports. It has a balance of young and old on the site...

And these people almost all are saying the new look is bad, bad to horrible...

http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/tennes...

Pretty soon Tennessee will not be a program that anyone knows or feels allegience to in the same way or at the same level as historically, seems to be the concensus...

Written on Mike Strange: Phillip Fulmer: SEC dominance began before seven-year title run:

in response to Geofffourmyle:

The Vols were an idiotic interception away from defeating eventual national champion LSU in 2007. Fulmer was -not- done with winnnig when he was fired, and he had a pretty good class inbound when Hammy panicked and pulled the plug.

Hamilton's decisons contributed much more to UT's demise than CPF's did. And I mean while CPF was still the coach.

After that for Hammy, it almost seemed as if "Whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad."

Or in Hammy's case, clueless.

Walt

UT '81

Fans are tired of hearing about the Fulmer firing, yet most of them have no idea what really happened.

If they did, they would still have no patience with what was a dirty deal. The problems Fulmer had, in a large part, were problems any HC would have had with the Administration at UT at that time:

-Cheek terrified that Fulmer's infuence with big-dollar alums was so much greater than his own that Fulmer just may have been able to get rid of him---since Cheek wanted to cut the influence of athletics...and did so acting as if he were bracing up academics...when in reality he was letting that creep,Hamilton, have free rein to set Fulmer up.

Hamilton hid behind a lot of great values, but was an ace at sticking people.

Not that most of us have not been hypocritical at times, but not made about $9million dollars for doing so..

Anyway...Phillip Fulmer is doing other things, and doing them well.

And those who wanted change got it: Kiffen, Dooley, and a coach that may have a chance of doing some things because a LOT of the Big Orange power elite have gotten behind him, so that he does not shoot himself in the foot.

Written on Mike Strange: Phillip Fulmer: SEC dominance began before seven-year title run:

Hart is essentially a "care taker" A.D.
He is a hatchet-man by trade and reputation; he lived up to that in his handling of UT's former Women's Athletics Department, and his clumsy handling of Pat Summitt's departure.
His fumbling the hiring of a new Football Coach was only saved by Peyton Manning's fortuitous call from Jones for the Colorado job, in which Manning found himself listening to Jones pitch the Tennessee job...and Manning called Cutcliffe to get Cut's impression of Jones' team @ Cincinnati. (C+ to B-)
And UT had just been told to get lost by Louisville's coach---before Hamilton/Hart's tenures as A.D., can you IMAGINE a Louisville coach's declining to take a UT Head Football Coach's job???

Hart is just drumming his fingers, waiting for the bell to sound. HART has made sure he has done all he can to establish his son...who is doing well, having just left UTC for SMU as A.D (the position David Blackburn, formerly of UT, took over last week.)

So Hart is merely waiting this one out, making the fewest waves possible, trying to avoid any backwash from Cheek's and the other higher-up academics' screw ups, and hoping somebody in one of the two major men's sports wins something.

Note that news that a sexual assault charge dropped against a UT Basketball Player had been dropped,

was witheld for weeks, until the basketball team's underwhelming season had ended...and the player kicked to the curb.

Note also that under Hart/Hamilton/Cheek and the unlimited-number-of-stooges in charge,
UT Football haa fallen to the level that no high profile head coach would take it.

Note that PR-gaffe-a-prone Jones, who made goofball statements early on, has been reined in, and gotten support from UT Lettermen who saw another train wreck in the making if he were allowed to fail...

but the real problems at UT are what Phillip Fulmer did not enumerate: they include what to do with Jimmy Cheek and his co-prudes in academia, the impending new A.D.'s selection (following Hart) and the rest of the academic prudes who want intellectually pristine major college athletics.

Yeah, right....

GO VOLS!

Written on UT's Justin Hunter selected by Tennessee Titans in NFL draft:

in response to MetroplexMojo:

Mahelona wasn't drafted in 1996. The article probably meant to say 2006. He dominated the Gators in the first game I saw at Neyland in 2004.

Mahelona was 13 years old in 1996.

Journalists who cannot get the basics right are bad news...literally. That's one of the reasons that I have been no longer reading about UT here---the lack of journalistic skills.

Reporters who call head coaches by their first names in print are not able to report on anything in a non-biased way. They have been coopted, and are being used to feed readers what the coach(es) or school want to be reported.

The only question is complicity---is the reporter pimping the news willingly or being deceived. Either way, the possibility of a straight-forward, factually-based news article is minimal.

Now comes proof that even the facts cannot be kept straight.

What happened to several competent sports journalists who used to be at the Knoxville paper?

The paper trades THAT for this?

Written on Govols247: Trent Dilfer: Jones is 'great builder':

in response to The_Power_T:

Umm question Mr. Big Shot. If you are so important, and have such vast knowledge and experience in sports, then why are you on a free site hiding behind a screen name. I can say I'm 62 and used to be the coach for the University of Tennesse, or that I have a Super Bowl ring, or I'm the president of the U.S.A. None of that is true, but can't be proven. We are all the same on here. We are just common fans who love Tennessee. We are either too broke or too cheap to pay for Volquest or GoVol247. You may be who you say you are, but you also might just be a well spoken troll trying to stir up stuff. It also baffles me how people who played football think their opinion is absolute and unquestionable. I played football and got a scholarship to a D1 University, does that mean my opinion is beyond contestation? How could that be since I completely disagree with you? I mean we both played football so according to your logic, we know more about the game than others wish they did. Your ESPN argument is pretty weak as well. Tom Brady is ESPN's golden boy, and I've never heard a segment on Michigan because Brady was their QB. To me, you just sound like another troll trying to take credit away from Coach Jones because of your love affair for the good ol days. I'm very appreciative for all that Peyton is done for the university, but to credit him for all the positives happening right now is just absurd and immediately takes away your credibility

I am not a big shot.
I am just older than most fans, have been blessed along the way, and have been around long enough to be a seasoned citizen.
I have not been called a troll, before this site.
Now I get that about twice a month.
Just call me "truthful troll," or "little shot."

When Jones wins in the SEC, then he can stop getting a free pass. That was the way with Dooley. That was the way with Kiffen. It was not the way with Fulmer, the partial season at the first of his tenure; he was a proven commodity for the greater part of 20 years at that point.

If you use Power-T, that just might make your last name Fulmer. Since you say you did not coach @ UT, that does not mean your name is not Fulmer...just not the Coach...

Don't care either way. He is still sorely missed at UT, and a lot of fans do not have a clue what they did.

sign me,

Little Shot, The Truthful Troll

Go Vols!

Written on Govols247: Trent Dilfer: Jones is 'great builder':

in response to VoL_4_Life_1983:

Everybody wants to hate on our vols like the team they love nevee had hard times..i remember back 10 years when the almighty tide went through 3 coaches and could beat a ranked team and now they back on track...keep hatin(troll)..& admit it..all of the vols haters please admit it cause you know its true.sunseri is the reason we didnt compete last year..the only reason...we are a 4-3 defensive team...always have been..for some dumb reason he wanted to change..which might have worked two years down the road when they recruited se 3-4 players...he sabotaged us...he should have wrnt back to.4-3 after 2nd game and we still would have competed...45 pts a game on offense...we wouldnt have gave up half that if our payers were in the style they was recruited for..ppl can deny it but really think about it...we ave. more offense and points then anybody in top 10..if we could have bettered our D points a game by ave. of 10 a game we would have won 9 easy mayb 10..4-3 last year we might and I mean might have gave up.30 a game..Butch jones could be the guy..

Think I will make a couple of comments, and then cut and paste what I wrote to another guy who is as totally in error, as you are.

Your comment that if we coujld have bettered our Defensive points by 10 is a shot from la-la-and. If cats could sing tenor, the back fence would sound different. If UT could have cut an average of 10 points from opponents last year, Dooley would still be here.

Jones may be an improvement because he wants to be here. But big time winners have big time staffs, and this one is not a big time staff. Big time winners have big time experience and none of them do. They are banking on selling the lettermen so they will prop them up as they learn to compete in the SEC...and they are banking on the fact that the UT athletics coffers are almost empty, so nobody is going to fire them because too much money would be owed.

Listen: if Peyton Manning retired from the NFL and said he would be interested, it would make no difference what the amount owed would be---and that entire staff would be consultants to get mileage out of the money owed them under the ridiculous contract that this doofus athletics director signed.

I have been a UT Fan since before Johnny Majors went to UT. I used to listen to the Vols on AM radio, because it was not on TV and FM was not here yet. I was too slow to get a ship at UT, so I played elsewhere in an error where a 6' 220lb Nose Guard could make a team and if blessed could start for it.

I have met at least a dozen UT coaches, two athetics directors---maybe three---am an alumnus---and want UT to get its act together. So far it has not, and looks like it may have gone in a direction that could have cost UT a lot of money without restoring the greatness.

YOU ARE IN ERROR. Hush, please. Your ignorance is showing.

I am retirement age, used to be able to name the starting 11 for the '56 Vols with Majors---know some of his family and used to know more, was a Network News Producer, was Vice President of a National Sports Network, have negotiated about $300million dollars in media, and know that business like you wish you did.

I played the game, and know the game pretty well, too. I assure you I did not play it at some A high school somewhere.

As I told another poster in this thread, I can give it to you in chapters, verses and fragments about what I wrote. And I am correct in it.

You may not like it, but; but it is accurate.

Written on Govols247: Trent Dilfer: Jones is 'great builder':

in response to RedBoilingSpringsVol:

Ok little boy, I'll pay some attention to you. Feel better now? Troll

I am retirement age, used to be able to name the starting 11 for the '56 Vols with Majors---know some of his family and used to know more, was a Network News Producer, was Vice President of a National Sports Network, have negotiated about $300million dollars in media, and know that business like you wish you did.

I played the game, and know the game pretty well, too. I assure you I did not play it at some A high school somewhere.

Your ignorance is showing. You may want to turn up the heat on the springs,and hope they boil the ignorance out.

You call names when you do not understand anything about what you are writing.

I can give it to you in chapters, verses and fragments about what I wrote. And I am correct in it.

You may not like it, but; but it is accurate.

Written on Govols247: Trent Dilfer: Jones is 'great builder':

Dilfer and a lot of other big-time broadcasters are respectful of Peyton Manning.

Peyton Manning is the draw at UT...for UT...about UT, now---almost the only one.

If he wants it...when he retires from Pro-Football...regardless of Jones' record...Manning will be Head Coach.
Peyton realized something had to be done...and pushed the candidacy. For an alum to be that involved says that the alum will be involved for a long time...just how deeply we will know in about three years.

Frankly, it would be an upgrade over anybody since Phillip Fulmer...and allow building on the VOLS' best years. That build is something that Jones will not be able to do, simply because he has to "hire it done," as an outsider.

Regardless of how many lettermen say good things about him, he has had to embrace philosophies, maxims and histories that are not his.

His enthusiaasm is wonderful; for $18million guaranteed, Bear Bryant would have worn Orange. Jones' pedigree is not UTor SEC eve ...and his staff's background is anything but big league.

Frankly, for a coach to drink several loud gulps of water from a bottle, putting the bottle directly into a camera lens

, DURING an interview,

is as bush league as anything that has ever come down the Pike from the Hill.

And that is one of the members of the greatest coaching staffs in America, says Jones---one of the top tier that he brought with him.

You gotta hope like XXXX that nobody in national media gets to these coaches, because the embarrassment that would follow would undo all the hard work that Manning and the rest of the lettermen have done, giving Jones his start.

Remember...before the lettermen helped him...Jones' recruiting prowess brought in a 2-star lineman that he stole from Cincinnati...

and lost the top recruit in the class to Ohio State---a kid who had been a lifelong UT fan, and that even Derrick Dooley had ready to become a VOL.

Soooo...guess why UT is getting the nice words, etc, etc...from ESPN. It's Manning, pure and simple.

We will know how much Peyton Manning will be involved on-field at UT in about three years.

Prediction: Fulmer as A.D. (That would *amned Sure be an Upgrade.) Manning...or his guy...as HC, in 2016/7.

Written on Rawane Ndiaye, Darius Thompson to visit UT:

in response to smokeygrowl:

These are two defensive specialists, You see if they can hold the man they are guarding to 1 point per game we will be just fine with them.

Bull manure.

Written on Rawane Ndiaye, Darius Thompson to visit UT:

in response to flatrock:

Wow! A post that averages 2.5 ppg and the PG from Huntsville who averages 2.7 ppg ! Someone please explain...

Martin owes a LOT of favors to a lot of people, perhaps.

All over the Vol Nation, people are beginning to say Martin is in over his head. From almost Day 1, some who knew have been saying he was not up to the task of succeeding Pearl & company.

Martin is major league a typical Mike Hamilton hire.

I am tired of UT's being such a bad place in the eyes of the coaching community that we hire bush league coaches, who do not make NCAA tournaments, get to Bowl Games, apologize for baseball teams that can't win, or in news conferences announce they are bringing in the "Best Coaching Staff in America," then bring in small school coaching staffs, one of whom was so rude to a respected UT Vol alumnus coach, that the coach left his alma mater to work at a former opponent.

That's what you get when trustees hire presidents, chancellors and athletics directors from places that have been and are enemical to UT.

Bush league coaches. Bad administrators. Athletics Directors who have no clue how to get a top tier coach to come to UT, and are so close to retirement, with contracts that prevent them from being fired, that they don't care. Anybody who would have given a coach from the University of Cincinnati a no-cut contract for $18-MILLION DOLLARS if the guys breathes, is not fit to be on a UT payroll.

But, of course, all those great minds wanted to fire Fulmer. (Uh can you say $40-million dollars that move cost you, and we downgraded coaches. And we are on the hook for another 18Million+ for Jones & his assistants.)

Seems to me that since the ONLY reason UT is having the recruiting success now being enjoyed in football is because of getting UT legacy prospects, due to the lettermen's having realized the Athletics Department could tank if Football does not turn around this year...

so lettermen are calling on their fellow lettermen to send their kids to UT...

If the lettermen are doing that, then the Lettermen ought to be coaching UT. All have played better football and more than a few have coached at higher levels than all but one of Jones's staff including Jones.

And nobody is going to be able to convince me that Martin---who is a better coach in BB than Jones or his minions are in Football---is able to handle this position.

Remember...Martin recruits a strength and conditioning coach who reportedly poses half nude on a website...and hires him anyway; guy had worked at Purdue, where Martin had gone to school---before the guy was unemployed.

Sooooo...Martin pays him 6figures to put his shirt on and come to UT, where he sits courtside at games, wearing suits that glow in the dark.

You gotta be kidding me. The Athletics Department is a half-BILLION dollars per decade operation...and all we can hire is buffoons??????? (Except for women's basketball---which the Athletics Director disrespects.)

GoVols!

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

in response to FearTheVols1252:

Dude… relax. You are over-analyzing the cr@p out of every little word he said. How can he say Jones is a ‘great coach’ when he hasn’t seen him coach a single down in the SEC!? He said he was impressed with his philosophies, his energy, as well as his coaching staff. What more can he say when he hasn’t seen them on a Fall Saturday yet?!

Call me crazy, but I don’t think Peyton put as much thought behind this interview as you did hoping that critics would ‘read between the lines’ to find his true meaning. Recruiting is off to a great start, CBJ is pumping some energy and enthusiasm into the program, and he’s getting previous players more involved. He’s doing all the right things thus far, yet you debbie-downers want to play the role of ‘Eeyore’ and find every negative thing 10 miles down the road.

These don’t sound like ‘legitimate questions’ to me… it sounds like you’ve already casted judgment on him. Give him a chance to prove himself before you start vying for another coach… geez!

Points for you to ponder:

a. You have no idea why I am doing what I am doing, obviously. You are certainly not The Almighty, who is the only one who does. You do not understand,; as proved by your comment that my concerns are not "legitimate questions. “

b. I am not "dude." Stop condescending: you are neither qualified to condescend, nor very good at it.

c. I assure you that I know a little something about both media and PR, including media contracts negotiations. You are on your tu-tu in most of what you posted about these:

Exampe: Jones' comment in a news conference that he is hiring the "best staff in America" is not a P.R. misstep? Then he brings in a staff from UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI??? Be serious. (Hopefully you were not when you said he had not made a P.R. misstep.)

He has made more than a few. Some things he does well. His mistakes are being papered over, because the press corps is trying to help him sell UT. They are irrelevant if it continues as it is--- Knoxville paper, TV/Radio and websites. Regional reporters are on the bandwagon, too; they do not like being afterthoughts nationally, either.

d. Recruiting looks good because Jones has backing of the lettermen, in a year where 16 prospects are high 3* to 4*. Maybe three to five will wind up being 5*athletes and are legacies or have strong Tennessee ties. Screw up and miss a once in a generation opportunity for Tennessee.

Like it or not, it came about because Fulmer and others ( Wilson and Manning, et al) know if Jones did not succeed, UT Athletics will dead for another 10 years---which could effectively bankrupt the Athletics Department ( trends in ticket sales, attendance, etc

There is SEC pressure. (ABC/ESPN will not continue to show 1/3 empty stadiums the size of UT's and continue paying the SEC the kind of money it is. After Hamilton, the commissioner's office is tired of UT's long run of athletics violations, incompetence, dissension and embarrassing the conference. One way to be glad for Auburn’s diverting attention. Slive was going to turn up the heat a notch if UT did not stop the slide; he needs a vibrant UT to make that deal work properly. Half-full Neyland stadium and bad UT teams destroy potential national broadcasts.

Two to four of the "best staff in America," will need to change. They are proving they cannot recruit at SEC caliber.

Lettermen are Jones' ticket to recruiting---pure and simple. They believe with help Jones may be competent, and have to make him competent. Their alma mater will lose what they built, if he fails.

If Jones makes it, somebody needs to give those lettermen (and Fulmer) credit for going to the edge of saying everything they can say in his behalf. They risk their credibility doing so but have no choice..

Kind of ironic that you point out that we do not know if he can coach at the SEC level. Maybe you don't think that’s a legitimate question.

(Isn't that where you came in?)

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

in response to FearTheVols1252:

Dude… relax. You are over-analyzing the cr@p out of every little word he said. How can he say Jones is a ‘great coach’ when he hasn’t seen him coach a single down in the SEC!? He said he was impressed with his philosophies, his energy, as well as his coaching staff. What more can he say when he hasn’t seen them on a Fall Saturday yet?!

Call me crazy, but I don’t think Peyton put as much thought behind this interview as you did hoping that critics would ‘read between the lines’ to find his true meaning. Recruiting is off to a great start, CBJ is pumping some energy and enthusiasm into the program, and he’s getting previous players more involved. He’s doing all the right things thus far, yet you debbie-downers want to play the role of ‘Eeyore’ and find every negative thing 10 miles down the road.

These don’t sound like ‘legitimate questions’ to me… it sounds like you’ve already casted judgment on him. Give him a chance to prove himself before you start vying for another coach… geez!

Who said he put A LOT of thought into it.

He said the obvious positive things and stayed away from comments that could bite him.

He has been coached in on-camera presentation skills nowadays by the best in the country---and is an excellent interview, and he is a pro at it, also. You can tell when you watch him pose for the re-ask in out-takes.

I believe, but have not been told, that Cutcliffe's comments about Jones's defensive team---

because Cut is one of the best offensive minds ever in Football and best teachers of the game ever---

had watched a good bit of UC tape in bowl prep--and had seen the presence of the former DL Coach (now DC/asst HC) from Michigan) had molded the Cincinnati defensive unit into a solid group, for that level.

Cut's team was all about overachieving...and they had little depth.

I believe PM called Cut and asked what he had seen on the tape, since Cut had been prepping for a bowl.

Cut's team is woefully short on talent (They make the normal Vandy team look like Arkansas,) After the UC win, it looked like Jones' team, if psyched up, could steal one from Duke, based on defense. Remember, also, please, that the UC DC had faced Cutcliffe's offense twice already in different Uniforms.

Remember, also, please that Cut had no defense to speak of, and his best players were not available. So his offense sputtered, to further compound it.

In the smaller conferences the best players go to the Offense. Same for weak sister major conference teams, like Duke. Go figure, please.

If I were lobbying for a new coach, I'd lobby for a new coach.

If Jones succeeds here, he will succeed here. If he fails, it will be just about the time Peyton Manning would leave professional football.

Again,I am not lobbying for a new coach.

I said what I said, meant it, and stand by it.

Written on Peyton Manning on Butch Jones: 'He has it all mapped out':

in response to SummittsCourt:

Since Peyton gave Coach Jones the thumbs up maybe some of the haters will back off now.

Are you so naive that you only see things in terms of total love and hate?

People who question credentials---legitimately question them---are doing what they are supposed to do.

Peyton Manning said he appreciates Jones' enthusiasm for UT. After Dooley, and Kiffen, anyone who wanted to be here is a significant improvement.

Enthusiams counts for a lot. Peyton Manning's support and entuisiasm for UT Football is a great blessing.

Peyton Manning is a brilliant man, who may well know footbal as well as anyone alive. Frankly, what he did not say is disturbing.

He did not say Jones is a great coach. He did not say the staff is top tier, or even traditional SEC caliber.
He did not say he believed in Jones, or that he believed in Jones' strategic plan, which Jones has sold to anybody who will listen---and which has been reported by anybody with whom he has met.

The most recent UT Football higher up who had a great strategic plan, until it went onfield in the SEC was named Clawson...an offensive coordinator for UT. People would talk about his system and how it was all planned in detail He had it all planned out, too. His failures cost Phillip Fulmer his job, and set up this last run of slithering into the pit of teh SEC, in Knoxville.

Peyton Manning could have said Jones knows football in and out, or something like that. Peyton Manning could have said any of a number of reassuring comments that would have been comforting for the Vol Nation.

But he did not.

Instead, he said---loosley translated---Jones has planed an outcome in detail, and is enthusiastic about the fact UT is paying him $18-million guaranteed to carry it out.

And Mr. Manning mentioned that he got had not met Jones before, and was forced to talk with him.

Peyton Manning is way, way too smart to say much more than that.

The call came the week when UT was most desparate for a Head Coach---when nobody with a proven track record wanted to be at UT as HC.

Voila---Jones is hired at the last minute Jones was enthusiastic...obviously is an opportunist,

and had already told his Cincinnati team they were history, that he was looking around, despite their going to a bowl versus Duke. (Lesser conference, contracted to send a team, and Cincinnati was co-champion, etc, etc...one of three.)

Peyton Manning could have taken credit for helping Jones get the job. Notice he did not say that at all. THAT is a telling omission, as are some others, in his comments.

If Jones is like a lot of people think he is...Peyton Manning may be the next HC.

He has the bloodlines, the credentials, the right color scheme and college preferences...and he already roots for UT.

Only the naive would believe that legitimate questions are hate.

GO VOLS!

Written on Mike Strange: Vols have had some special NCAA moments:

Uh...so...a coach going into his 3rd year is going to renegotiate his contract when he still cannot spel NCAA, as NCAA Tournament.

He has to have remedial help to spell NIT, apparently, because his people looked asleep, except for the seniors, in both NIT debacles.

Johnson is not ready for the NCAA---and neither are his teams.

Not someday.
Not next year.
Not soon.
Not "we're working on it."
Not "they got better down the stretch."
Not "they got better as the season wore on."

-Good teams and coaches get to the NCAA.
-Better teams&coaches win in the NCAA.
-Great teams&coaches go to the Eite 8 in the NCAA.
-The best go further in the the NCAA...as in "Final 4"

Notice that nowhere does it say give a coach a raise who cannot raise a team to win enough to get into the NCAA. Fact is, he is being defiant to his critics.

Only people running a misdirected athletics program give raises to under-performers.

Martin appears to be going for the raise in order to silence his critics, because if he can get a big raise---or even a small one---the critics may just shut up, thinking nobody is holding him responsible...or that nobody can get to him---that Martin is untouchable...and his critics---a growing number---will be silenced by the apparent vote to show him the money.

Just what UT needs, another high-dollar, defiant athletics offical.

If he were one of Jones's football scholarship athetes, Jones would have him doing laps for "stealing from the university," which is what Jones reportedly accused one under-performer of doing.

Reward excelence and superior performance,not meaningless exercises and underperforming teams and coaches.

Go Vols. Go Away Martin & company.

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to CroKev:

With all the coaching turnover the last few years, I'm somewhat relieved with Jones' long-term assistants. These guys have stuck with Jones through 3 universities and they know each other. Sure, I was hoping to land Tee Martin and keep Graham but I also see those guys as more prone to flip to another program if the right opportunity came up. Don't fault them a bit. However, I do have to say that it's refreshing to know that the core of Jones'
staff will be around for quite a while - something this program desperately needs. Now once they are successful, all bets are off as the big money of being an OC or DC will come calling...

Question, please:

If you were working in a double-A or maybe single-A league...and only able to be CO-CHAMPS of that conference...and made 10 dollars a year...

and somebody gave the boss you were covering for a guarantee of over 9 times what he was making...and tripled your salary...GUARANTEED...

and his leaving meant you were not going to have a job except with him, after he left,

uh...since you are obviously a rocket scientist...

just why would you stay? And just how brilliant would a fan be, at the new place, for thinking the new coaching staff had been with the new HC for a long time...so that made them more acceptable.

He came from nowhere. His former head coach when he went to Cincinnati left to go to Notre Dame.

And why don't you ask yourself, as a fan of the new place for the Head Coach and his staff and the new plac---

how many of these coaches giving you all this comfort were asked to come to Notre Dame with Kelly.

Remember that Notre Dame and Tennessee for much of Fulmer's watch were at parity.

Somebody should subpoena the records of certain athletics department higher ups...and administrators...and convene a grand jury and look at the possibility of criminal malfeasance.

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to VolzsFan:

Your an idiot....enjoy the change and mediocrity. I told you clowns we had the high water mark at UT by a long shot during the Hall of Famer's years and we will NEVER win at that level or close again.....EVER. You read the paper and spew words you do not even know what they mean. Go back to kicking the dog as you watch UT football keep falling behind Vanderbilt.

BTW, he was fired the Tuesday BEFORE the Wyoming game. As a former player I know what emotions go into a game. No one cared after a legend and Hall of Famer was fired. You are an absolute idiot.

Thanks. Yes it was Tuesday, not Monday. And you are absolutely correct.

Sn is more Cr than anything else.

Thanks for calling out the ignorance...

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to Snapshot:

"If Fulmer had gotten ths kind of help hs last two years"....what a load of krap! PF got complacent, wasn't recruiting as before, and couldn't win without David Cutcliff. He should have been fired immediately after losing at home to Wyo.

Baloney. UT lost the game to Wyoming because Hamilton fired the head coach on the Monday noon of homecoming week. Anyone who ever put on a uniform past high school will tell you that will kill a team's desire.

NOBODY would have been able to pull that rabbit out of that hat, and anybody who ever played the game at some level above Tennessee Class Double-A knows it.

You are obviously capable of taking pictures; but not of being in them.

One of the heavier hitters on the BOT had decided to get Fulmer...and Hamilton had been looking for the opening. The heavy hitter who ramrodded everybody...and then inferred that the Governor's dad could relax a bit, that Fulmer had had too much rope...

bulled his way into the power seat in this thing. And to avoid looking like it was one family running everything...no opposition was really put up.

Fulmer had the top SEC Defensive Coordinator in John Chavis, also. But the bozos on this and other Vol boards, who did not know a footba from a foosball thought he was dumb, also.

Listen...the College Football Coaches association does not elect a dumb axx to its presidency. And the Hall of Fame does not elect anybody who is not, hands down, the top in the business of NCAA Football.

Go back to the bleachers...where all the ignorance bends to a roar.

Fulmer got shafted by Hamilton. And Cutcliffe's getting the Duke offer at the last minute---with a bowl that Fulmer had to coach up coming between the hiring of a replacement---had already put Fulmer in a no-win position. There were no Offensive Coordinators available who were worth a craxx and knew the UT system. Just that simple. So UT got the Clawfense...

You may want to know what you are talking about before snapping your next shot.

Written on Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State:

in response to rb4346:

Vols still came out ahead in the changeover. Good luck to you as you were a great running back. Jay you are gonna miss out on being a part of somthing special at UT, hope you and Randy are happy together. Maybe if Kiffin doesn't improve at USC you all can hire another traitor.

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

Written on Mike Strange: Competition every rep is Butch Jones' message to Vols:

Thank The Lord for seasoned, professional Journalists, who know how to write interesting copy...and keep the necessary distance between the reporter and the story and those about whom the reporter is writing.

I am grateful for Mr.Strange's reportage. His work should, in my opinion, make everyone reading it know that a real professional wrote and reported it.

Thanks for good sports journalism. I hope it continues; the paper has had too many good reporters to pull the plug on professionalism in 2013.

Thanks again!

Written on Tennessee's first scrimmage of the Butch Jones era goes down to the wire at Neyland Stadium:

in response to utvolfan1955:

Here is a link where the writer refers to the Gump coach as Nick Saban, not Coach Saban
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bama-ope...

The blog calls him "Butch" multiple times...with no last name.

That is chummy, not reporting. Despite the misunderstood concept that a reporter's blog is supposed to be his personal impressions,

good reporters keep space between themselves and those about whom they write---in person and in print.

So...having read the blog...do you understand now???

Reporters are neither to be biased for or against. They report---and that needs to be borne out even more so in blogs than normal news copy.

Written on Tennessee's first scrimmage of the Butch Jones era goes down to the wire at Neyland Stadium:

in response to Snapshot:

Really, that's all you have to do, complain about the reporter calling him Butch? Glad you enjoyed the article.

Uh...psst...Uh, Hotshot, or SureShot or whatever the login is...

Good reporters keep distance for mutiple reasons at multiple levels.
Period.
Sorry you do NOT enjoy the facts of good journalism.

Written on Tennessee's first scrimmage of the Butch Jones era goes down to the wire at Neyland Stadium:

in response to Theo:

Good grief,
who pp'd in your Wheaties?

BTW, a blog is not considered reporting, it is merely personal observations.

Theo,

Your sentiments as a loyal VOL are apprecated; but I understand blogs and online reporting a lot better than you do, I promise.

The point is simple: any reporter even trying to APPEAR objective does not call someone about whom they are writing, by the first name in an article OR A BLOG.

And bogging, which somehow is supposed to be more "personal" than a news story, merely shows in this case that the reporter is the coach's bubba, now, because first names are used throughout.

That is an $18Million dollar public employee, and the reporter has aready been coopted and is publicly on a first name basis with the coach---in the news copy.

What happens if a coach who has been cozyied up to like that does something that needs to be written about in a hard-ball tone; is anybody going to trust the reporter to report it straight up, hardnosed, after reading "bubba" copy for weeks or months?

More importantly, IS the reporter able to be objective, after writing "bubba" copy for months???

That is bush league journalism---small town writing at its miserable worst. Most small town papers would fire a reporter for that, on the 2nd or 3rd offense.

I am surprised that obviously no sports EDITOR at the KNS is managing this guy or his rambling, compromised prose.

Not saying he is compromised; just that his prose certainly is.

Reporters write without favoritism. Does he call former Coach Pearl "Bruce," or former coach Fulmer "Philip," or former Athletics Director Doug Dickey "Doug?" Does he call Dr. Cheek, "Jimmie?????"

His blog can be interpreted as revealing favoritism, because of all the use of first names.

"That ain't good"---although inappropriate to be used in copy gets the point across. Using first names gets a much different point across.

Just that simple.

Written on Tennessee left in the hands of the committee, but Cuonzo Martin thinks his team deserves to be in:

The reason for the finger crossing, praying and breath holding is simpe: Martin and company did not have the team ready to play againstg Alabama, for whatever reason. If they were getting grades for performance, coaches would get an "F" in "Half-Time."

Not ready for an SEC TOURNAMENT game???? Remember when UT played GA in Atl, earlier? Same kind of lethargy. Season could have been put away then. Not ready.
Martin and his fellow coaches' legacy, this year, most key games.

In-game adjustments tough for these coaches? Bama had UT game-planned UT well enough to win; how come UT could not plan well enough to beat Bama. Diddling with the lineup was the UT Coaches' gameplan…going to players who have been streaky, and tweaking a lineup that had won 9 of 11 in the closing weeks. Now THAT's a brilliant gameplay---change what has worked like nothing else they have tried. Use streaky players instead of steadily iimproving winners. The streakers were streaky vs. Bama, too.

Martin and company were outcoached in Nashville, vs. Bama. Had Martin et al had a scheme to take away mid-range and drives down the lanes, UT would have won. These coaches believe that if Man2Man 'D" is not working, Okay...let's try Man"D" harder.

Last year UT was unable to make enough adjustments in- game down the stretch to win enough to get into the NCAA. Commentators were making the same kinds of polite "wondering that the XXXXX" comments then that the commentators were Making in Nashville, before and during the 2nd half, this year about Martin's and ther other coaches' coaching abilities.

Being unable to successfully adjust at halftime---which Martin & company have had trouble doing both years---is cause for wonder as to whether these coaches can hack it---even in a watered down SEC. Martin and his braintrust decided that since Man2Man "D" did not work in the first half vs. Bama, they’d try Man2Man "D" harder in the 2nd. And since getting the ball up high to Stokes did not work in the first half, try getting the ball to Stokes up high even harder in the 2nd half---despite the fact he was double-teamed and going against a 7-footer, who outweighed him.

Gets old each year for commentators politely second guessing UT coaches. Changes needed to be made in-game, before half-time, in the last few games of the regular season, SEC tournament and NIT last year…just like this year.

Here we go again???? All they had to do was take care of business versus Alabama…or any of three other times in the past five weeks.

If UT wins down the stretch do not convert to NCAA success, it is not good enough to be where UT Basketball needs to be.
I hate to think this, but I believe it: Bruce Pearl et al would have won that game.
Martin is supposed to be a great guy. Too bad he and his people are not great basketball coaches. Good coaching and good leaders are not mutually exclusive.

Written on Tennessee's first scrimmage of the Butch Jones era goes down to the wire at Neyland Stadium:

Glowing report. UT Football needs good news.That point having been made...just what is the idea of jumping the sports news story to somebody's personal blog, away from the Newspaper itself. We are trying to read the newspaper, not give hits to make the blog seem bigger to those internet measurement groups who register traffic online.

And the blog is a laugh, as far as reporting is concerned:

Never saw a reporter, in print, before who continuously referred to a coach by his first name.

Glad to see that any pretense of objective reporting is out the window, because now UT can save on P.R. managers, since the only home-market paper with daily coverage of UT Football has its principal football reporter on a first-name, chummy basis with the ole coacheyroo.

If you look back at the Cincinnati "Enquirer," a paper nationally respected; you will find that they did it the right way, calling him by last name and title, etc., or just last name.

Kissing up probably gets a lot of stories...but that is usually only a temptation in competitive situations. And there is no other daily paper involved anymore.
And it is only temptation for reporters who deserve the name "reporters."

Betcha no other reporter anywhere else in the Knoxville paper---or even in the small town weeklies anywhere in East Tennessee is calling an

$18MILLION DOLLAR GUARANTEED COMPENSATION PUBLIC OFFICIAL

by his or her first name.

Maybe the governor can get that deal, or the mayor; or the next public offical caught up in a sex scandal or bribery probe.

Not saying Jones is anything but the real deal, but can the reporters AT LEAST act like he and they are not sucking from the same bottle. (Of course if they are, there is not much left for the ole reporter; just ask the Athletics director about finances...but then maybe the reporter and A.D. are not as cozy...)

No wonder the paper is struggling. But if this works, maybe NBC can have its reporters sign off from the White House with something like:

I'm Evan's Eleven, chwein' the fat with Barrack, over here at the large white building...not sure how they named it that, but...what the hey...

Written on Mike Strange: Missed shots may mean a missed shot :

Trying to take responsibility for the loss, players are stepping up---manning up---doing what Martin and staff should be doing,
Martin and coaching staff are the reason this team lost, NOT poor outside shooting.

Martin's stubborn resistance to using zone defense---and his coaches substituting streak-players for a lineup that had been winning, and continuing inability to adjust in-game, are reasons this team lost.

Stevie Wonder could have seen zone “D” would have stopped give & go drives from Center to guards, down the lanes. Most patients in your local therapy group at least would have considered doing something other than continue going inside to Stokes---who had two or three players on him, one of them 4+” taller, so passing high to Stokes was a bad decision.

‘Zo does is not short for Zone! Mid-range jumpers, and switches from center by guards to drive down the lanes were what zapped UT. Zone “D” would have stopped either or both.
Also, the team was lethargic again. Adams says they lost the sense of being desperate. Martin told the world, after Mississippi State, Thursday, they were in the NCAA. Players relaxed. Yet they even looked tired. (Had they been out late? Were family members in their heads, helping Martin coach, since they were closer than normal physically, in Nashville, at the tournament?)

The mark of a team not clearly led is that it slows down before reaching the goal, and frequently does not reach that goal at all . Martin's rhetoric set the bar too low---get to the NCAA---a LOT different than saying "Sweet 16," or "Elite 8."

"It's okay, because we are IN!" (relaxxxxxxxx.) Players obviously head what their coaches coached: keep passing to Stokes inside.

How come nobody fm UT shot behind screens, mid-range? How come nobody played even a little bit of zone against Bama’s penetration & mid-range.

Martin is by all accounts a decent man. But Bruce Pearl would have won that game. Pearl probably has learned the lesson that lying to protect a kid is not worthwhile---that you have to cut a kid loose, who shows up at your house in violation of NCAA rules.

The kid (Craft's) father reportedly turned Pearl in for asking him to lie to the NCAA. Fingering Pearl did three things: guaranteed young Craft was immune; zapped UT; ensured Craft for Ohio State, instead of a now dirty-appearing (to the NCAA) Tennessee.

I wish Martin and his coaches---all better players in college---were as good as coaches. Martin needs to take a leaf from Pear’s book, and get help at in-game coaching for himself, staff and team. Same for scheming. They are woeful at both; and are costing UT victories.

It is NOT the fault of a team shots on an off-night kept them 4 points away.

If UT does not dance, it is Martin and the coaches' fault. That simple.

Written on Vols lose to Alabama, will play the waiting game for NCAA tournament:

Martin and company did not have the team ready to play, for whatever reason. If they were getting grades for performance, coaches would get an "F" in "Half-Time..

Not ready for a TOURNAMENT game? Remember when UT payed GA in Atl, earlier? Same kind of lethargy. Season could have been put away then. Not ready.

Makes me wonder if games in which the team is near families for longer periods---who have always had strong opinions about what their player needs to do--- is getting into the heads of the players.

Or ifplayers are playing curfew games.. Not saying they are; but they looked tired, lethargic and unable to play at the level needed.

UT played poorly, but stayed close today; it is a shame coaches were unable to adjust at half-time to stop penetration by Alabama guards. Certainly they did not adjust to get Stokes free from the 2-bigs, but went to him anyway. Martin told the sideline reporter "it will be all right if we get (Stokes) the ball.
Count the # of mid-range jumpers Bama got, in addition to drives in the paint. Martin hates Zone, yet his "D" was not at all able to stop the Center/Guard scheme today, even after half-time.
In-game adjustments tough for these coaches? Since Bama had UT game-planned UT well enough to win; how come UT could not plan well enough to beat Bama. Diddling with the lineup was the plan…going to players who have been streaky. They were today.
Martin and company were outcoached today. Had Martin et al had a scheme to take away mid-range and drives down the lanes, UT would have won. These coaches believe that if Man2Man 'D" is not working, Okay...let's try Man"D" harder.

Last year UT was unable to make enough adjustments in- game down the stretch to win enough to get into the NCAA. Commentators were making the same kinds of comments then that these two were making, today, before and during the 2nd half.
Being unable to successfully adjust at halftime---which Martin & company have had trouble doing both years---is problematic late in the season. Opposing coaches now know Vols' tendencies, have talked with every opposing strategist they can find, and have developed schemes vs. UT.

Gets old each year for commentators politely second guessing UT coaches. Changes needed to be made in-game, before half-time, in the last few games of the regular season, SEC tournament and NIT last year…just like this year. Look how that ended.

Here we go again? All they had to do was take care of business today…or any of three other times in the past five weeks.

I don't care how many UT wins down the stretch, if they do not convert to NCAA success, it is not good enough to be where UT Basketball needs to be.

GO VOLS...

Written on It could be bubble or burst for Vols against Missouri:

Quotes from the article:

"Fate in hands, fans in stands, Tennessee’s men’s basketball team will take the floor for a regular-season finale worthy of an impending packed house.

The Missouri Tigers, a talented bunch jostling for a double-bye in the SEC tournament and seeding lines in the NCAA tournament, is coming to Thompson-Boling Arena today (TV: ESPN, 4 p.m.). The Vols, sitting inside a delicate NCAA bubble and scanning SEC scenarios that could land them between third and seventh place in the standings, are anticipating a crowd exceeding the arena’s 21,678 seats."
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"Fate in hands?" FATE? Be serious, please. Pens are in hands. Pistols are in hands. Footballs or basketballs are in hands.

Fate is the province, and thus in the hands, of The Almighty, if one believes in the concept of fate. Depending on one's theology, it is either cobbled together by one's thoughts and
actions, or predetermined by forces greater than the individual.

Perhaps the predetermined concept is what some predestinationists have in common with astrologers.

Perhaps the "cobbled together" is what some evangelicals from non-Protestant, Christianity may have in common with Muslims.

None of that is relevant to this basketball article, except that readers may be wondering about the grammar and sentence structure of it:

"...Tigers...is coming..." Pairing a plural subject and a singular verb, is unusual. That grammatical construct is an automatic "F" in both English 101 and Newswriting 101, in accredited universities.

"Impending" as a modifier of the noun "house," in "packed house," implies the entire 21,678 are outside, waiting to get in.

Where did Quinn go to college? Certainly he did not attend UT, where English is the official language.

Perhaps his alma mater is "Bama," or Vanderbilt.

Maybe he is from the Missouri Ozarks.

Wherever he originated, residents may need a course in "Engish-As-A-Seond-Language."

The News-Sentinel has had some very good sports journalists over the years.

Now comes one, who does not proof-read his own copy, and somehow skirts copy editors.

Perhaps budget cuts expunged copy editors. Maybe they were redacted. Maybe they were rubbed out.

Written on New details on Troy Wills, burglary at Thompson-Boling Arena office:

What is happening @ the Knoxville News Sentinel, regarding hiring of sports reporters?

Rarely do these reporters dig for facts, instead now they appear to be just jaunting over from the the news conference or practice, or police department; taking notes on what the coach, culprit, cop or player said; and publish what the university or coaches want published.Apparently folowing John Adams' lateral move years earlier, the reporters now go along to get along,

Often they seem to have forgotten basic journalism.

For instance, most journalists were taught to use the term "alleged," when referring to allegations of criminal activity, until such were proved in courts of law. In the lead paragraph, shown show below, nowhere is that word used at all.

Most newspaper stories find readers stop reading in the 4th paragraph of the story; thus many readers never learn the coach has not been convicted.

"New details surrounding former University of Tennessee men' s basketball strength and conditioning coach Troy Wills and the burglary and vandalism at Thompson-Boling Arena were released Thursday," says the newscopy in the above article.

Quinn reports as if the alleged criminal activity by the coach is proved, in that sentence. Then Quin goes into great detail, quoting from police documents and, perhaps, conversations with KPD people or their associates.

An attorney said to represent the former coach is quoted, but answers not many of what Quinn says are charges against the ex-coach. Yet the reporter lists in great detail the charges.

Allegations from either the campus police force or the KPD,which reportedly has a notorious chip-on-shoulder rearding the University or its teams need to be treated as merely allegations. They are not facts proved in a court of law.

Instead the reporter's covering this, from appearances, he did one of those rip-and-read coverages of a story.

I am not sure who is Sports Editorfor the KNS, since John Adams' was moved to the role of columnist only.

But clearly both these new reporters need an editor. That is NOT a putdown. Great reporters need editorial help and in many cases, supervision.

Convicting the man in the city's only newspaper guarantees he cannot get a fair trial in Knoxville.

So no matter what happens, the KNS has removed the blindfold on the lady holding the scales of justice...

despite the fact the reporter probably would not do so intentionally.

Written on Source: Graham was offered $40,000 raise to $300,000:

in response to FWBVol:

Nobody can honestly know how Jones and this staff will do in the SEC until the Vols line up against Florida, Alabama, Georgia....this fall.

As for the blue collar stuff, this nation was built by blue collar workers. The men in the steel mills were blue collar, the guys that built, and continue to build, the great buildings and highways in this country are blue collar.

Blue collar guys know what it means to roll up their sleeves and get the job done.

Wrong.
Blue collar now means, in America, overpaid-union people, on-strike about 1-day in 20, who make more on layoff in Yankee states, than Southerners do fully employed. No wonder the Rust Belt is vomiting workers---nobody in corporations can afford to hire a worker like a UAW member who is accustomed to making $96,000/year on unemployment,like they do in the plants in the rust belt. Down here unemployed make $275/wk, max, plus 25/wk federal stimulus supplement.

Don't tell us in Tennessee what "blue collar"means. Most of us have been and/or still are blue collar in Tennessee---or have family members who are "git 'er done" folks.

So don't lecture. Fact is and will remain, most management types are more educated and make more than do blue collar folks. Some of the education and training is formal (academic,) some OJT, some school of hard knocks, bootstrapping sef.

Not saying anythng is wrong with either type; but blue collar hard working types sometimes are used to small-scale, short sighted organizations, and big time throws them, so they need someone to values clarify. Truth, not something I like, but a lot of stats verify that.

Worlds of difference between Cincinnati and SEC. Graham outrecruited all of Jones' Gang, especially Azanni or whatever the speling of that name is Uzunnia, or Azzami or whatever. Graham is a better, proven coach, who can outperform them---and Jones' answer was to pay his bubbas more, screw over Graham, and then only offer him as much as the white guys after Graham had found a better job...

Jones did the same kind of thing to Martin, offering him less than the counter-offer, so that Jones could hire another lower-level experienced coach instead...a white one.

So the colors here are, just for your information:

black---Jones ain't really convincing about his attitude here.

white---lots of that in the Jones "best coaching staff in the U.S."

blue---collar tradesmen/tradeswomen, and there are many levels of that---apprentice, senior apprentice, journeyman, senior journeyman, provisional master, master---and all have to be continuously trained to keep current, and to learn from those who have developed ideas in bigger leagues.

Green---which in this case = the amount way too much Jones pays his mid-level coaches, and an amount way too little Jones offered two proven UT alumni, both of whom have successful coaching records in conferences better than Jones or ANY of his Gang.

Written on Source: Graham was offered $40,000 raise to $300,000:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

So, genius. Who is the "big name" heavy hitter coach we should've hired? Huh?

You are all attitude and ignorance. Why would anyone want to exchange information with you?

You do not know anything or anyone in theknow, just that simple. So you walk around like some bantam capon.

Here's the answer to your question: I refuse to tell youspecifics, except to mention one about which you will argue.

And there were three respected, non-tainted ones that wanted to the job---and several who were so sleazy that even Hart would not have them---but the top three all refused to work for Hart---including Gruden.

Hart is a nasty litte man who gets agreement on one point and then suddenly asks for more---so that top people will not work for him.

Only creeps and cretins will take his abuse---or people who are so vested in the Tennessee retirement system that they cannot afford to eave.

Just that simple.

Hart has been trying to stop a couple of folks from sharing information, but thus far has been unsuccessful.

Why don't you stop being an internet cowboy...and make some friends in the right places.

Or is it that they do not want to deal with your kind?

Just asking...

By the way...is that you, Hart?

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

I say hire Trooper Taylor...take a chance. He can recruit like heck and he fires everyone up.

From that comment, it appears you have not managed anything bigger than your family budget.

Anathema comes from hiring attention whores who are tireless self-promoters, at the expense of co-workers.

Reportedly Taylor, when here before, went behind Fulmer, asking high-$ alumni for special funds so he could buy an ex-basketball coach's high-dollar house.

He frequently inferred the race card, when dealing with high school coaches---mostly African Americans, themselves---in Memphis and other places.

He was constantly in conflict with his boss, John Chavis; and with more than a few other coaches.

He continued calling players he had recruited, after leaving UT---sometimes on the week before games versus his new team.

He was thought by some to be across the line in following rules, while at UT, dealing with recruits.

He was very condescending and critical in private meetings, about Chavis and others at UT, as he spent what many thought was far too much on his recruiting trips---traveling in plush ways instead of normal, which are themselves plush.

Taylor was thought to have frequently bent rules to the point of breaking, in terms of academic requirements, character, etc.

Taylor is trouble waiting to happen, for UT. He finally got caught at Auburn, apparently. And the best thing that UT can do with him is go somewhere else for a coach to replace Graham.

Taylor brings with him some very intense NCAA scrutiny. The suspicions of Hart as ethica trouble, from implications at Florida State, with their NCAA troubles---combined with Taylor---and with a Head Coach who says dumb stuff frequently to reporters---

is an imposing spectre.

Hart, Taylor, Jones and a bunch of mid-level coaches, most from nowhere conferences, are guaranteed trouble for UT Football.

But, hey, that's all right. Cheek won't let anybody into school, academically, that Taylor recruits.

Written on John Adams: Losing Jay Graham is more than just losing a running backs coach:

OwensboroVol...

You are overlooking the obvious, in my opinion. Graham is a coach---who will not set fire to his future, and must live by the code of "omerta," regardless. So he will not state the obvious:

a. This group of coaches is not SEC capable. He calls them "blue collar," praising them. That is to say they work hard, they are working stiffs, they spend a lot of time at work, working.

That is to say they are not as high on the food chain as the SEC requires. They are Bum Phillips, not Bill Walsh or John Madden. They are Wade Houston, not Bruce Pearl or Ray Mears. They are Georgia basketball, not Kentucky (of lore) or Louisville. They are Anthony Parker, not Chad Cliffton or Harry Galbraith. They are a beige Ford Taurus, not a Black Mercedes, Deep Charcoal Black Cadillac or Ebony MarkVIII.

They get you to your destination...but cannot keep up with the Steve Spurrier, Johnny Majors, Phillip Fulmer---and certainly not Nick Saban. Their resumes are a house painter with vanilla colored paint; the SEC is Picaso with Dayglow or Rembrandt with a color spectrum analyzer.

And there is this inconvenient, uncomfortable fact for a football hero, who left a great position to come back to help a struggling program under a questionable coach at his alma mater---

Why the hexx are you paying me, a black coach, with half-a-dozen years in the NFL, an SEC all conference player, and an alumnus---30% less than a group of white bubbas of the Head Coach, only one of which has the qualifications I have, the experience I have; and none of which can come close to me in recruiting.

And you have the gall to offer me a raise that puts me even with most of these coaches, when I tell you I have been offered a position at Florida State. That means you would have continued under-paying me, if I had not forced the issue with you.

And you did not counter-offer Tee Martin, when Southern Cal gave him that sweet raise to try to keep him. Instead you let him---another black alum of UT---get away. Yet you paid and are paying a LOT more to coaches with less experience, qualifications or results compared to Tee and Me---both of whom helped produce Conference Championships for UT in the SEC, not at Central Michigan...and he helped deiver a national championship.

So...OwensboroVol...would YOU want to stay in that kind of atmosphere...when you knew you were going to be working with a group that is not able to compete with half the staffs they face next year---and will have inferior talent, besides?

Go figure, huh?

Written on Source: Graham was offered $40,000 raise to $300,000:

The real problem is not what it appears to be, in this continuing saga of incompetence personified.

Jones stinks. So do his staffmembers.

Graham said it best---blue-collar coaches.

No heavy hitters; no top drawer types. Just lunch bucket level coaches.

Another group of losers in orange. Just that simple.

president downward need to go...

Written on John Adams: Losing Jay Graham is more than just losing a running backs coach:

John Adams gets it, but understates the real problem. I posted this elsewhere:

a. Historically UT is one of the best NCAA programs. A dozen UT alumni actively coach in D-1, all more qualified than all but one of Jones’ gang.

b. Jones fired two good non-Orange-blooded coaches. His gang got raises of almost 60%, yet have never even worked at SEC level.

c. Jones tried to hire Tee Martin, and keep Graham, but had overpaid his Cincinnati staff so much, no money was left to match USC's counter offer to Tee.

d. Fact is, Jones' team was beaten by Derrick Dooley's.

For the record: Graham's background is better than ANY coach on Jones' staff, including Jones's. Graham has good NFL experience, coached w/Steve Spurrier, & did better recruiting than Jones’ entire group combined

Yet Graham was paid 1/3 less than whites coaches Jones brought with him. Jones brought no blacks among the "best coaching staff in the U.S.A" He apparently wanted Graham as token, plus another SEC level black guy from Auburn, after Martin’s “No.”

e Hart/Jones tried to counter Graham’s Florida State offer--- prepared to give a 35% raise---almost another 100K. THEN Graham would be at a level with Jones' bubbas.

Graham saw Jones would have continued paying him almost 100K less, otherwise.

Appearance is, Jones was screwing over Graham. Just that simple.

f. Frankly, Jay Graham could appear to more than a few people as a real victim of racial discrimination---at his alma mater---the place where he made "the Run," against Alabama---and where by himself he out-recruited the entire Jones Gang.

The reason, in my opinion, Graham was allowed to be fit on by Jones is because there is not a single Tennessean or UT alum at the final decision-making level for Football, or any of its business areas, now.

Yet Jones says, "I hope I am able to retire here." "They may name a street after me." "I watched UT as a kid (in Michigan?)" Big words for a man never in a single SEC game, or a day of SEC-level spring practice.

UT cannot afford to fire either Jones or his “gang.” Hart negotiated huge salaries and severance packages. Jones alone could get $18MILLION DOLLARS regardless, yet seems to have put in place elements for a racial discrimination suit, the way he handled Jay Graham.

The take away: UT's proud heritage is being raped by this bunch. (Remember how Hart handled Pat Summitt's departure.)

If the Governor or legislature does not force the issue UT's proud tradition will become only a memory in a couple of years, associated with what happened a long time ago, and an empty stadium that used to be crammed full of screaming fans.

Rednecks and message-board-dumb need to stand down. Graham has been treated unfairly, but chose the high road, rather than messy announcements of lawsuits for discrimination, in my opinion

Thank goodness Graham IS a loyal UT alum---and has not sued his alma mater.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

in response to frblalack:

Aren't you the same guy who posted all the incessantly ignorant comments about the Vols last year?

You truly epitomize negativity...yet you claim to be a Vol fan? Why don't you prove you're a Vol fan or just quit posting on this website? I cannot remember even once when you had something positive to say about UT.

Vol for Life...win or lose ... Love MY Vols!!! And I support Coach Butch Jones & his staff 110%!

p.s. Jay Graham is a legend in his own mind, nothing loyal about him except to Jay Graham!

Blalack, U hate messengers, when U have no answer to messages:

a. Historically UT is one of the best NCAA programs. A dozen UT alumni actively coach in D-1, all more qualified than all but one of Jones’ gang.

b. Jones fired two good non-Orange-blooded coaches. His gang got raises of almost 60%, yet have never won or worked at SEC level.

c. Jones tried to hire Tee Martin, and keep Graham, but had overpaid his Cincinnati staff so much, no money was left to match USC's counter offer to Tee.

d. Fact is, Jones' team was beaten by Derrick Dooley's.

For the record: Graham's background is better than ANY coach on Jones' staff, including Jones's. Graham has good NFL experience, coached for Steve Spurrier, and did better recruiting than Jones’ entire group combined

Yet Graham was paid 1/3 less than whites coaches Jones brought with him. Jones brought no blacks among the "best coaching staff in the U.S.A" He apparently wanted Graham as a token, plus another SEC level guy from Auburn, after Martin’s “No.”

e Hart/Jones tried to counter Graham’s Florida State offer--- prepared to give him a 35% raise---almost another 100K. THEN, that would put Graham level with Jones' bubbas.

Graham saw Jones would have continued paying him almost 100K less, otherwise.

Appearance is that Jones was screwing over Graham. Just that simple.

f. Frankly, Jay Graham could appear to more than a few people as a real victim of racial discrimination---at his alma mater, no ess---the place where he made "the Run," against Alabama---and where by himself he out-recruited the entire Jones Gang.

The reason, in my opinion, Graham was allowed to be fit on by Jones is because there is not a single Tennessean or UT alum at the final decision-making level for Football, or any of its business areas, now.

Yet Jones says, "I hope I am able to retire here." "They may name a street after me." "I watched UT as a kid (in Michigan?)" Big words for a man never in a single SEC game, or a day of SEC-level spring practice.

UT cannot afford to fire either Jones or his “gang.” Hart negotiated huge salaries and severance packages. Jones alone could get $18MILLION DOLLARS regardless, yet seems to have put in place elements for a racial discrimination suit, the way he handled Jay Graham.

The take away: UT's proud heritage is being raped by this bunch. (Remember how Hart handled Pat Summitt's departure.)

If the Governor or legislature does not force the issue UT's proud tradition will become only a memory in a couple of years, associated with what happened a long time ago, and an empty stadium that used to be crammed full of screaming fans.

Rednecks and message-board-dumb need to stand down. Graham has been treated unfairly, but chose the high road, rather than messy announcements of lawsuits for discrimination, in my opinion

Thank goodness Graham IS a loyal UT alum---and has not sued his alma mater.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

Your my boy, but Huey is correct on this issue..Keeping Graham just to placate the fans was wrong and I'm sure Jay and Butch felt uncomfortable with the situation. This slate should have been cleaned and CBJ's should be able to hire whoever he feels most comfortable with. You're correct, this is a UT problem, and the only way to fix it would be to allow the man in charge of the fb program make all the moves..There's only room for one Captain Kirk.

You missed it:

a. Historically UT is one of the best NCAA programs. A dozen UT alumni actively coach in D-1, all more qualified than all but one of Jones’ gang.

b. Jones fired two good non-Orange-blooded coaches. His gang got raises of almost 60%, yet have never won or worked at SEC level.

c. Jones tried to hire Tee Martin, and keep Jay Graham, but had overpaid his Cincinnati bubbas so much, there was no money left to match USC's counter offer to Tee.

d. Fact is, Jones' team was beaten by Derrick Dooley's.

For the record: Graham's background is better than ANY coach on Jones' staff, including Jones's. Graham has good NFL experience, plus coached for Steve Spurrier, and had done better recruiting than Jones’ entire group combined

Yet Graham was paid 1/3 less than the whites coaches Jones brought with him. Jones brought no blacks among the "best coaching staff in the U.S.A" He apparently wanted Graham as a token, plus another SEC level guy from Auburn, after Martin’s “No.”

e Hart/Jones tried to counter Graham’s Florida State offer--- prepared to give him a 35% raise---almost another 100K. THEN, that would put Graham level with Jones' bubbas.

Graham saw Jones would have continued paying him almost 100K less, otherwise.

Appearance is that Jones was screwing over Graham. Just that simple.

f. Frankly, Jay Graham could appear to more than a few people as a real victim of racial discrimination---at his alma mater, no ess---the place where he made "the Run," against Alabama---and where by himself he out-recruited the entire Jones Gang.

The reason, in my opinion, Graham was allowed to be fit on by Jones is because there is not a single Tennessean or UT alum at the final decision-making level for Football, or any of its business areas, now.

Yet Jones says, "I hope I am able to retire here." "They may name a street after me." "I watched UT as a kid (in Michigan?)" Big words for a man never in a single SEC game, or a day of SEC-level spring practice.

UT cannot afford to fire either Jones or his “gang.” Hart negotiated huge salaries and severance packages. Jones alone could get $18MILLION DOLLARS regardless, yet seems to have put in place elements for a racial discrimination suit, the way he handled Jay Graham.

The take away: UT's proud heritage is being raped by this bunch. (Remember how Hart handled Pat Summitt's departure.)

If the Governor or legislature does not force the issue UT's proud tradition will become only a memory in a couple of years, associated with what happened a long time ago, and an empty stadium that used to be crammed full of screaming fans.

Rednecks and message-board-dumb need to stand down. Graham has been treated unfairly, but chose the high road, rather than messy announcements of lawsuits for discrimination, in my opinion

Thank goodness Graham IS a loyal UT alum---and has not sued his alma mater.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

in response to Olddogsrule:

I got a friend with a farm and he'll take you for a ride on the back of his "big green tractor" and you can open your pie hole and he won't need a manure spreader.

You're apparently trying to get a free lunch.
Hows about wiping that brown stain off your mouth, bud?

What I wrote is more factual than much of what you have been reading, I assure you.

Written on Jay Graham reunites with Randy Sanders, Sal Sunseri at Florida State:

Uh, Psssst....over here...psst...hey sheeple...

why would a LEGEND@UT, having come
home,leave???????? Graham is a great guy,who enjoyed tremendous success here and
elsewhere, prior to meeting Butch Jones and
the Jones gang...

a coach who himself signed the best
of the mediocre class
that Jones & the other Jones Gang coaches
put together...

Psssst.....uh, you hoooooo.....this just
in....

legacy all-americans, who had the only
real success in a recruiting class...

do not leave their alma mater unless
something is seriously wrong at work,
such as:

a. Graham is legacy, best coach, and makes
$50-60,000 less than Jones' bubbahs
he brought from Cincinnati....who
were making about 70% what Graham
was making at UT, last year and got
tremendous raises...while Graham got
promises, a pittance and ignored.

b.These bozo coaches from Cincinnati,
who did NOT step up big in recruiting
this year, are not at Graham's level---
and they are white. Graham is black.
And, the ignorance Jones displayed in
paying his bubbas that way and stepping
over the guy whose "the RUN" against
Bama...a guy who out-recruited Jones's
entire group of bubbas...is amazing.

3. Graham was not even interviewed for
offensive coordinator...not even asked
if he woulde like to interview for it.
Instead, he got this junior-grade head
coach who sucked up to all the UT
lettermen and got them to say nice
things---and the coach jobbed Tee
Martin, because he did not meet the
offer at USC---instead, choosing to
give the money to his bubbas---and
now Jay Graham, Vol to the core, is
voting with his feet, too.

Jones and his bubbas are just more of the problem. They are proving it, weekly. And many of the naive twits on these internet sites---who are starved for a winner at UT---are so dumb that they annoint a mediocre head coach into the next General Neyland, before the guy's first Spring practice, not to mention his first game.

Listen...UT Football is in trouble. And the journalists nowadays suck up to get stories, rather than dig to get facts to report. The coaches that are good do not want to come here or stay here---as evidenced by the fact UT is paying 50% more than comparable experience gets elsewhere---and evidenced by the fact that people like Jay Graham, who knows these bozos, leave. Yes, some other would be coaches will step in, who wore orange, and want to pad their resumes---but these coaches are not SEC caiber. Just that simple. Jay Graham just told you so, if you did not hear Tee Martin.

Written on Jay Graham leaving Vols for Florida State:

Uh, Psssst....over here...psst...hey sheeple...

why would a LEGEND@UT, having come home,
who enjoyed tremendous success and himself
signed the best of the mediocre class
that Jones & the other coaches put
together... leave????????

Psssst.....uh, you hoooooo.....this just
in....

legacy all-americans, who had the only
real success in a recruiting class...

do not leave their alma mater unless
something is seriously wrong at work,
such as:

a. Graham is legacy, best coach, and makes
$50-60,000 less than Jones' bubbahs
he brought from Cincinnati....who
were making about 70% what Graham
was making at UT, last year and got
tremendous raises...while Graham got
promises, a pittance and ignored.

b.These bozo coaches from Cincinnati,
who did NOT step up big in recruiting
this year, are not at Graham's level---
and they are white. Graham is black.
And, the ignorance Jones displayed in
paying his bubbas that way and stepping
over the guy whose "the RUN" against
Bama...a guy who out-recruited Jones's
entire group of bubbas...is amazing.

3. Graham was not even interviewed for
offensive coordinator...not even asked
if he woulde like to interview for it.
Instead, he got this junior-grade head
coach who sucked up to all the UT
lettermen and got them to say nice
things---and the coach jobbed Tee
Martin, because he did not meet the
offer at USC---instead, choosing to
give the money to his bubbas---and
now Jay Graham, Vol to the core, is
voting with his feet, too.

Jones and his bubbas are just more of the problem. They are proving it, weekly. And many of the naive twits on these internet sites---who are starved for a winner at UT---are so dumb that they annoint a mediocre head coach into the next General Neyland, before the guy's first Spring practice, not to mention his first game.

Listen...UT Football is in trouble. And the journalists nowadays suck up to get stories, rather than dig to get facts to report. The coaches that are good do not want to come here or stay here---as evidenced by the fact UT is paying 50% more than comparable experience gets elsewhere---and evidenced by the fact that people like Jay Graham, who knows these bozos, leave. Yes, some other would be coaches will step in, who wore orange, and want to pad their resumes---but these coaches are not SEC caiber. Just that simple. Jay Graham just told you so, if you did not hear Tee Martin.

proving it, weekly.

Written on Fourth overtime Golden for Vols, 93-85:

GO VOLS!!!!
Great Win!
Agree w/a couple of comments made already about Golden's having somehow learned not to go down the road into a mental funk...which looked like he was starting to do today, but somehow pulled back & finished strong.
Several Vols overcame major mistakes to be big time contributors to the winning effort in the OT's.

GOVOLS!!!!!!!!!GOVOLS!!!!!!!!GOVOLS!!!!!!!!GOVOLS!!!!!!!!!

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to iowavol:

WTF are you talking about. The man is all class and obviously knows what he is doing or talking about. You obviously don't.

You are showing your ignorance.

I have worked on-air in New York City, other major markets, as well as been a network producer or reporter for CBS, NBC, FOX (formerly RKO,) was involved for a brief time in a couple of the Sports Networks covering major sports conferences including UT.

In my career I have been on-air talent for golf for NBC having done PGA and LPGA, tournaments as contract talent. Have been a stringer and earlier a free-lancer. I pulled cable for the Gold Cup Hydroplane races in Seattle as a teenager.

Probably the high point of my career was that I was named bureau chief for one of those networks in South Korea, with collateral responsibilities. Among those I interviewed as a reporter/correspondent/producer are Ronald Regan, George H.W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissenger, Howard Baker, Dick Thornburg, Earl Butz, former Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Warren Burger, Rosalyn Carter, Betty Ford, (Hillary Clinton almost talked with me, but left abruptly,) Edward Gurney, Paula Hawkins, Jessee Helms, Andrew Young, Jessee Jackson, several Joint Chiefs.

As a kid reporter I interviewed Governor Lamar Alexander, Winfield Dunn, Ned McWhorter , and earlier, Tennessee politicians and Buford Pusser.

In the last 20 years my focus has been on consulting and coaching individuals to be on-camera and on marketing. Have helped Corporate Attorneys deliver instructions by video, worked with on-air talent and corporate officers in all media and venues in national brands. All told have managed., maybe $350-million dollars in marketing budgets.

During those earlier days I produced and reported features on Elton John, Mary Travers, the Byrds, Chicago, Earl Scruggs, etc. I was in front of the Dakota the day John Lenon was shot, later in my career.

So please shut up. I am a semi-retired, seasoned pro---an older guy who loves the Vols, am sad to see what has become of the once great program, am in full sympathy with Martin's efforts to bring the program back, and am fully qualified to offer comments about my beloved Vols on obviously---to those who really do know---short sighted media strategies.

Go the hexx back to Iowa. How's that. I do not like your fore-flushing attitude. And for once I enjoyed telling an apparent creep off.

Coach Martin needs help with media, and Hart et al have waited so late that he may not have time to get it before tournaments. For the same reason UT did not get major league coaches to come here, under HamilHart; they will get minor league media help, if at all, for these coaches.

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to jt45:

I bet you didnt see all the flames coming from this one, for some reason I read it differently than most and think your just noticing the little things (like the interview). I see what your saying and Im sure that some interviews are conducted with plenty of prep time (such as those by major networks) but most of these post game videos are just done on the fly after a long game working to get a win. Surely you understand that. The image Martin projects to the public after a game is genuine. It may not be flashy yet because he has the job of turning these young men into winners. Someone once said speak softly and carry a big stick. I believe he got plenty of respect. Sounds like the better option to me.

I don't think it's either or. I am older, and was privileged to watch Ray Mears recruit. Mears was a little more subdued than Pearl, but it was a more subdued age. And both of them were polished and knew exactly where they were and what they were going to do next when media folks showed up...and did it.

Coach Martin has not been prepared for what is going to happen if his team wins out. He will look like a nice man, a little out of his league---or if the reporter misunderstands him, during the news conferences; he could be made out to be in over his head. Coaches perceived like that usually get a couple of years in the big dance without all the benefits in recruiting, laying groundwork for contributions, etc., that come with people who have been trained to handle media well.

Coach Martin may indeed be a great guy; but he needs help on mic and on camera...a lot of it.
The fact he is obviusly under-trained shows just how screwed up UT's Athetics Department is in terms of realizing maximum yield from public relations opertunities in all their venues, with all their publics and from a their initiatives.

Go Vol!

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to jt45:

I bet you didnt see all the flames coming from this one, for some reason I read it differently than most and think your just noticing the little things (like the interview). I see what your saying and Im sure that some interviews are conducted with plenty of prep time (such as those by major networks) but most of these post game videos are just done on the fly after a long game working to get a win. Surely you understand that. The image Martin projects to the public after a game is genuine. It may not be flashy yet because he has the job of turning these young men into winners. Someone once said speak softly and carry a big stick. I believe he got plenty of respect. Sounds like the better option to me.

JT...thank you. He needs to have been briefed and prepared and practiced hundreds of times before he ever gets to the post or pre-game.\

That is the way it is done, but the fact he obviously has not been---and previous coaches were not---is proof once again of how screwed up our Athletics Department is.

When some long-term folks retired, a couple of years back, where did UT go to get a PR director???? NYE? LA? from one of the big PR agencies in Chicago or Dallas????? Nope...University of Kentucky.

UK is certainly where all those ESPN, CBS< ABC< NBC and FOX sports journalists...as well as Sporting News, etc, etc know each other and eat lunch every other week and have beers after work severa times a month, etc, etc...

UT Athletics has been run like a provincial little cow town, by Hamilton and Hart. Neither ever worked in big time sports towns before here, and neither understand big time media. Just that simple. And UT suffers.

There is so much that a real pro would do to improve what's going on, and fix a lot of problems that will be left alone until they trip and trap a coach or player, because Hart is like Hamilton---does not know they are there.

And obviously neither does this guy from UK...

So UT left Coach Martin out there not well trained, certainly not practiced and looking like small potatoes...

yet he is supposed to impress recruits' parents as well as Pitino or Calipari or _______________ who has been trained and knows and understands...guys like Bruce Pearl, who came from a media smart school, and built programs on what he learned at Boston U...

Tks for your comment. GO Vols!!!!!!!!!!

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to no1djkb#278630:

I am going to try to say this without offending you. I don't think Coach Martin needs to change who he is for anyone on TV or for you either. I am not saying you should not have an opinion this is a free country but this program needs someone who stands by what they believe and is as real as they can be. Coach Martin does not need to prove anything to anyone. He played in the NBA, played for a respected program and coach, and he has proven that he can motivate players and that he wants what's best for them. The jury is still out about him being a good fit for UT but at least he is going in the right direction

Thank you for being polite; nowhere in that is any kind of offense, as far as I can see.

Multiple reasons exist that he needs to get some sprucing up as far as on-camera and on-microphone communications:

1. This is big time college ball, and players are looking at articulate, well trained presenters from other teams who, frankly, show better than our HC does, currently. They may not be able to coach better than he, but they look better. And to an 18-year-old that may be the thing that swings 'em to another school.

2. Boosters give to polished looking folks. As an example, consider Mike Hamilton. Nobody worse was ever in that office, except maybe Hart. But he was able to shake the trees well, because he wore $1,000+ tailored suits, $300+shoes, was well spoken, knew the #'s and the $'s because he was a CPA; had been to a lot of great restaurannts, clubs (country, not hip-hop), places, etc...and coult hold a decent conversation. He looked the part, acted the part, but smelled wishy-washy at the end and afterward. So UT prospered...until the piper played the song sheet Hamilton was on.

3. Voters in the polls from places all over the country may not get to see Martin more than once or twice this season---and they for several games saw a coach walking off the court wiht his necktie wadded up, or wearing a T-shirt, etc. So coaches who look like they are top shelf get more respect. Just that simple. Consider Caipari, whose class this year will rank higher than Martin's, despite UT's thrashing of KY; or Petino, whose Armani suits are legendary (those are $3,000.00 at the level he buys, tailored, etc.;) his teams are down this year, but none-the-less, he will recruit big and be interviewed, etc.

Yes, I know money may pass hands for a lot of coaches to players; but the more polished coaches make programs look better. Just that simple.

As Phillip Fulmer got older and chubbier, and the new wave of coaches came into the SEC; some recruits talked about the youth, or how "smooth" the Meyer,etc, etc. were. Just that simple. Notice also that Steve Spurrier has never been anything but a snappy dresser; and he tends to be respected by recruits, coaches and journalists alike.

A few trips to John I. Daniels, some coaching from somebody from major markets, not Charlotte or Nashville, and a better understand of what to do and when to do it, as wella s some "talking points, which EVERY interviewee has---but obviously our p.r. department has never prepared and coached for Coach Martin---would be a big help.

This is not about anything but the truism that in big time media...perception is reality. If they think he is not as appealing on camera as another coach, he has a harder time gettingto where he needs to go. Fact, like it or not.

Thanks for beingpolite and thinking about what you posted. It is much appreciated.

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Well "Bud"

Rich and I don't actually have the problem. It seems the problem lies with a person who is expecting someone to adhere to his dress/posture requirements.

Did Rich ask you to mind his business for him?

He has always seemed to be articulate, whenever I have read his posts. So exactly why are you appointing yourself his spokesperson.

As you can see, others have noticed that Coach Martin could use some training in on-camera appearances; after all EVERY major school trains their coaches if coaches are out of practice or otherwise not as smooth as the school's reputation requires, unless the coach refuses.

What you are complaining about is standard policy in professional communications, marketing advertising or journalism. Thus we know that you are anything but a professional communicator; so you frankly do not know.

It's okay not to, but please do not correct some of the folks who do. We are not asking anything out of the ordinary for winners or top level performers.

Just that simple.

Maybe back in one of those coves, that word will get through to you, as soon as the sunshipe gets piped in all the way, so the information we have been discussing can get through the pipe.

GO VOLS!!!

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

You can't find anything to moan about regarding the game so you cry about how Coach Martin does interviews? LOL... Coach Martin looks intimidated? Uh.. Okay. My money says Coach Martin would stomp your guts out without blinking an eye. Intimidated...LOL

Rich, please don't go totally rednecked here.

Nobody challenged coach Martin to anything.

But he needs help in presenting his team; UT needs to be sold back into the limelight. Great records can languish---frequently do---in this media frenzied world. Look at some of the West Coast teams from small towns...that are virtually ignored by national media.

What I am saying is accurate. So...please don't act like you are a redneck. Everything to a redneck is about SOMEBAWDY KIN STAWMP YORE ______. Instead, why don't you act like Rich really is reborn?

Thanks...

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Was the T on his lapel straight enough for you?
How about the tie? Did he use a windsor knot?

That's the man's personality.........but maybe in time you'll get that changed.

Good grief...............

Well...since the most well presented team obviously has the best chance of the bid...and this is a team that needs the edge...

Personaities do not hunker down in front of a national TV audience. People who have not been shown how to do media the right way hunker down.

You are, I am certain, knowledgeable in a lot of areas.

What I'm saying is accurate. What's the problem with you, bud? You got some issues at home, or something.

Please take them out elsewhere.

Thanks...

Written on All of Jordan McRae's career-high 34 points "count" in 82-72 win over LSU:

Great game by McRae...and the rest of the Vos.

Golden's 20 was marred a little by turnovers. He showed maturity in this one that had not been evident before---he was able to steer his play back between the white lines after a couple of ball handling mistakes, and did not let themistakes throw him for long or grab control of his focus.

Stokes is deceptively quick...and can handle the basketball on the floor.

LSU was well coached.

For a second game in a row, UT's bench looked the part of winners---players composed as they celebrated, coaches dressed like professional coaches, etc. Good to see that UT is well represented in front of a national TV audience.

I wish somebody would tell Coach Martin to sit up straight and smile when he is being interviewed on camera after the game. His sitting down low, leaning on his elbows, makes him seem intimidated, etc. That sometimes happens whtn a big guy is trying to get close to the microphone. 18 inches away is about right, if you are speaking up.

He needs to speak a little louder, sit up straight and smile, to look the part of the composed, confident leader. It will help the perception. He is such a big, tall guy that if he scrunches down, he has a tendency to look (on camera) as if he is intimidated...and scrunching down also makes people speak softer and with less authority.

Great game, Vols.

GOVOLS! GOVOLS! GOVOLS!

Can they do it again?

Written on With first class, Butch Jones and staff worked overtime to build relationships :

in response to VolFanInTheBoro:

Damitman never mentioned Saban or Alabama. He is just saying how about giving CBJ a chance before you start bashing him

I am not bashing the new coach.
I am making statements that compare competitive coaches, avaiable-at-the-time-supposed-search occurred, and the way the process occurred.

I have this tacky way of quoting him---not bashing him---and his comments make you think somebody is bashing him.

Question: if somebody's comments are that strong, could those comments be out of line? Exaggerations?

Tks...

Written on With first class, Butch Jones and staff worked overtime to build relationships :

in response to Damitman:

Hey Kev, I thought your post was very straight foward and to the point! Wish these mal-conten so called fans would either apply for the job of coach or atheletic director or shut up! In their minds, no one deserves a chance because Phil got fired! They can't get it through their heads that Phil would still be there if he had done his job. Sound to me like a bunch of bama fans still trying to dig up the bear just cause no one else can ever coach but him!!!! They need to get on board or go cheer for Spurier in Carolina but don't wait untill this group of coaches and players have a chance to prove what they can do cause these so called fans are the experts and no one else is as savy about football or anything else for that matter as they are.

Okay...let's look at your goof-ball reasoning.

Cutting to the chase...if we who want better coaches and programs than currently are in place really are like those Bama fans...

then you are saying, implicitly, that this bunch of coaches in place now is as good as Sabin and crew, that everybody wil be pleased with their on-field product---that it will be as productive as Saban's...and that nobody needs to say a word.

Horse Manure. Your reasoning stinks. No wonder you could compliment the guy; both of you are devoid of understanding about football, coaches and organizational development in sports organizations.

Congratulations. One of you can take the day off and the other write posts for both of you. No differenct. Both posts are full of stuff...

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