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in response to jhncpps1: NO...NEVER...This was awful...The win was nice but the jerseys were awful...Tennessee's colors are Orange and White ONLY (Baseball needs to figure that out)...also it was another Kiffin thing so another reason to never do it again.
in response to jhncpps1:
NO...NEVER...This was awful...The win was nice but the jerseys were awful...Tennessee's colors are Orange and White ONLY (Baseball needs to figure that out)...also it was another Kiffin thing so another reason to never do it again.
Disagree.
Bottom line, Bray made mistakes and now he realizes just how big those mistakes were. The answer to the last question says it all to me. If he had it do over, he would have have stayed, buckled down and learned how to prepare and execute using those incredible physical abilities he has. But, alas, he can't do it over and he has to move. Best of luck. Here's one Vol wishing you the best.
Dog days of summer are a little early this year. Reading this article was 2 minutes of my life that I will not get back.
in response to snowpeapod#263184: Numbers shouldn't be our main concern, quality should.
in response to snowpeapod#263184:
Numbers shouldn't be our main concern, quality should.
Amen. Top 5 or Top 10 doesn't really mean anything. We need high quality folks who can compete in practice.
Nice - good-luck in the league.
in response to dlobh: Actually Mahelona (RIP) was not the last. Albert Haynesworth went 1st round, 15th overall in the 2002 NFL Draft to the Titans.
in response to dlobh:
Actually Mahelona (RIP) was not the last. Albert Haynesworth went 1st round, 15th overall in the 2002 NFL Draft to the Titans.
Right after big John Henderson if I remember correctly. Wonder how the heck they missed that. In fact, I think we had 3 of the first some number picks that year. BTW, I was in Hawaii last year and mentioned Jesse's name and watching him at UT - you wouldn't believe the overwhelming positive reaction I got from the locals. They were proud of him.
You know, this could be really big in the recruiting trenches. Good for Coach Jones. I've already booked the hotel and will book the plane tickets this weekend to Eugene. Not really expecting a win, but gotta support my Vols in a place considered as tough as Neyland Stadium to win.
I wonder how Bray has done on the Wonderlic test? I've not heard anything and for some reason I'm thinking he would not do well. He reminds me of Brett Favre but not as much talent. IMO, he never really liked the fact that he was at TN.
in response to stevefrommemphis: Someone posting as "candyland" at 3:02 p.m. on April 20 on the original Yemi story mentioned the order of protection. It appears that KNS followed up on the tip from a poster.
in response to stevefrommemphis:
Someone posting as "candyland" at 3:02 p.m. on April 20 on the original Yemi story mentioned the order of protection. It appears that KNS followed up on the tip from a poster.
Kind of reminds you of Tiger at the Masters. Still, no big deal, no guilt, no charges, nothing to do at all.
Nothing to see here. Move along....
Wow, surprising comments so far. I look forward to a Gruden Grillin'.
in response to halloffamebowler: Yes,Adams gets paid to write his opinion and show his arss while you and others show your arss for free.What is your point?
in response to halloffamebowler:
Yes,Adams gets paid to write his opinion and show his arss while you and others show your arss for free.What is your point?
Dude made his point eloquently and succinctly. It was obvious to even the casual observer. Your point is less straight forward but still intuitively obvious to that same casual observer. You are a John Adams fan and don't appreciate people stating the truth about him. Adams is a rabble rouser because it's easier to do than be a gifted and insightful reporter. Regardless, you are entitled to your right to respect JA no matter how unintelligent it appears to even the disinterested observer.
Vol Pile - I like it. I think this will stick. Would like a little better news about the receivers. I'm sure that's the crux of lackluster quarterback play.
in response to TrackVol1975: Selena Roberts is an Auburn graduate and hates the football team. In fact, she hates men in general. She wrote a number of columns on the Duke Lacrosse Case and none of them were true, with Roberts making up things out of whole cloth. I have no idea if the things she alleges in this article are true, but Roberts and the truth are not always partners. (I am close to a couple of attorneys involved in the Duke case and can say with certainty that Roberts and her former employer, the NY Times, definitely encouraged outright fabrications in that case. Maybe everything she alleges at Auburn happened, but until someone else who is more credible comes up with material, I am going to be agnostic on it.)
in response to TrackVol1975:
Selena Roberts is an Auburn graduate and hates the football team. In fact, she hates men in general.
She wrote a number of columns on the Duke Lacrosse Case and none of them were true, with Roberts making up things out of whole cloth. I have no idea if the things she alleges in this article are true, but Roberts and the truth are not always partners.
(I am close to a couple of attorneys involved in the Duke case and can say with certainty that Roberts and her former employer, the NY Times, definitely encouraged outright fabrications in that case. Maybe everything she alleges at Auburn happened, but until someone else who is more credible comes up with material, I am going to be agnostic on it.)
B.S.
in response to 62vol: Once upon a time, live schrimmages were the only way to really sort out the men from the boys. I think this group of Vols could use as much live action as the rules allow.
in response to 62vol:
Once upon a time, live schrimmages were the only way to really sort out the men from the boys. I think this group of Vols could use as much live action as the rules allow.
Sean Connery, right?
Bad post by Ediot. Good job coach. Keep it rolling. However, I do miss Pearl. I'm hopeful CCM has them ready to play at the beginning of the season next year.
in response to FanNotSheep: If you only had a brain you'd understand the Wyoming loss is forever at the feet of one Mike Hamilton and his biggest booster at the time. When Fulmer was forced to hold the press conference announcing the end of his UT career before the 2008 season ended, the team came completely apart. Anyone who has ever been a part of any kind of team knows the players play for their coaches. Even players who may not have been close to Fulmer knew the whole staff was about to be obliterated. The Wyoming game was a direct result of the press conference, just like the basketball team's loss in the first round of the NCAA Tournament after Hamilton knifed Pearl in the back. I hope UT will get its act together and regain its status in both big time sports, but the way it treated two great coaches was unbelievably shabby. Even though Hamilton is long gone, Karma has been killing us ever since.
in response to FanNotSheep:
If you only had a brain you'd understand the Wyoming loss is forever at the feet of one Mike Hamilton and his biggest booster at the time. When Fulmer was forced to hold the press conference announcing the end of his UT career before the 2008 season ended, the team came completely apart. Anyone who has ever been a part of any kind of team knows the players play for their coaches. Even players who may not have been close to Fulmer knew the whole staff was about to be obliterated. The Wyoming game was a direct result of the press conference, just like the basketball team's loss in the first round of the NCAA Tournament after Hamilton knifed Pearl in the back.
I hope UT will get its act together and regain its status in both big time sports, but the way it treated two great coaches was unbelievably shabby. Even though Hamilton is long gone, Karma has been killing us ever since.
Well said, but as dude said previously, haters gonna hate. Best wishes to a great coach and an even better man.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Don't schedule Wyoming..
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:
Don't schedule Wyoming..
Really. That's what you're going with?
Dang - get ready for the Cardinals. They played a good game.
in response to tnvol34: Well the Vols basketball team does'nt look so bad after all, Wichita State, whom we beat is in the Final Four, Florida is stil in it, so good work VOLS! So if we can keep Mcrae, Stokes and company, in comes Hubbs and the other recruits, get a big seven footer, we'll be looking good! GO VOLS!
in response to tnvol34:
Well the Vols basketball team does'nt look so bad after all, Wichita State, whom we beat is in the Final Four, Florida is stil in it, so good work VOLS! So if we can keep Mcrae, Stokes and company, in comes Hubbs and the other recruits, get a big seven footer, we'll be looking good! GO VOLS!
If FL wins today, I wonder how many other teams that didn't make it to the dance beat two of the final four teams? Just sayin.
in response to Sir_Spanky: Please don't remind me: Any person remaining at that school that was involved in the decision to hire Sal Sunseri at the salary level they did should be relieved of their duties by the close of business TODAY. And while I'm at it (CHANGE OF TOPIC) -- If it took a public outcry for Jimmy Cheek to withdraw public funds for SEX WEEK (for which the school has now become a NATIONAL LAUGHING STOCK) he needs to be gone from The University Of Tennessee IMMEDIATELY.
in response to Sir_Spanky:
Please don't remind me: Any person remaining at that school that was involved in the decision to hire Sal Sunseri at the salary level they did should be relieved of their duties by the close of business TODAY.
And while I'm at it (CHANGE OF TOPIC) -- If it took a public outcry for Jimmy Cheek to withdraw public funds for SEX WEEK (for which the school has now become a NATIONAL LAUGHING STOCK) he needs to be gone from The University Of Tennessee IMMEDIATELY.
Are you really saying that Sunseri would have been a good decision at a lower salary? Not in my opinion. Hiring Sunseri was a bad decision even if he paid UT. The ripples of his disaster will be felt for years.
One more question - what is Sex Week? I know I live in the Midwest, but never really heard of it or it's NATIONAL notoriety.
in response to pcshowtime: I am a vols fan stuck in bama. All I hear on the radio is how bama and auburn basketball fans want bruce pearl. As they radio hosts put it he rejuvenates dead programs. they are actually talking about letting barbi coach another year at auburn just for the chance to hire bruce in 2014.
in response to pcshowtime:
I am a vols fan stuck in bama. All I hear on the radio is how bama and auburn basketball fans want bruce pearl. As they radio hosts put it he rejuvenates dead programs. they are actually talking about letting barbi coach another year at auburn just for the chance to hire bruce in 2014.
CBB will be one of the hottest commodities next year. But I'm not jumping off the CCM train yet. This guy may not be Bruce, but he respectable.
in response to Witch_Doctors: Witch Doctor say here comes the comments of the "little people" like KENVOL..only here to whine..Witch Doctor say enjoy your little self!Bones never lie.
in response to Witch_Doctors:
Witch Doctor say here comes the comments of the "little people" like KENVOL..only here to whine..Witch Doctor say enjoy your little self!Bones never lie.
Just checking, but are you whining about Kenny? Ah, doesn't matter anyway. This team has surpassed expectations. We should be proud of them. Stokes is a man who's only getting better. Jordan has come into his own and will continue to grow. Regardless of what post season tourney we attend, this team will the team to beat next year.
in response to miketn6: I liked coach Pearl, but I'm very happy to have Coach Martin now. This guy is a winner, and he'll prove it over the next 2 or 3 years.
in response to miketn6:
I liked coach Pearl, but I'm very happy to have Coach Martin now. This guy is a winner, and he'll prove it over the next 2 or 3 years.
Unlike Pearl who proved it in the first year? Not sure I get your comparison, but I too liked Pearl and like Martin. I would like to see the team better prepared to start the season next year.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Last Spring before Peterman got injured he was pushing Worley hard for the 2nd string qb spot. With both athletes starting with a clean slate Peterman may have a slight edge over Worley this time..
Last Spring before Peterman got injured he was pushing Worley hard for the 2nd string qb spot. With both athletes starting with a clean slate Peterman may have a slight edge over Worley this time..
It's really hard to make that comparison. Peterman was working with what against what. Same for Worley - he actually outplayed Bray in spring just looking at the numbers. The good news it should be competitive. I like the looks of both these guys and they certainly seem to have their priorities in order. That alone is a welcomed improvement.
Glad to hear about Ex Vols hanging about. Now bring on Missouri.
I don't know much, but I'm thinking Worley will surprise a few folks. Agree with earlier posts that throwing him the mix as freshman against good defenses with no support was tough. I'm betting that experience has made him stronger. The comparison to CJ Leak is ridiculous.
In addition to the Kansas game, the most memorable play for me was last year. I can't remember who it was we were playing, but we were supposed to lose. Coach Martin and his style were on the hot seat. We were starting to turn it around and the team was playing better defense. McBee went after a 50-50 ball. Both he and the other guy got there about the same time. McBee was much smaller. A wrestling match ensued and McBee wouldn't let go of the ball. He came out of the dust-up with the ball and his hair flying and players moving in to separate them. Martin called a time out and looked over at McBee like a proud poppa. That was the toughness he wanted to see and think McBee has embodied that toughness every since.
Good luck today Skylar - leave it all on the floor.
in response to w4tey#282182: What the He77 is CSS and how come almost no one gets it ?
in response to w4tey#282182:
What the He77 is CSS and how come almost no one gets it ?
Seriously? I live in Wisconsin now, but back when I lived in TN CSS is College Sports South and almost everyone who has cable has access to it. Now, in WI we don't get it, but I can usually pick it up on the internet or always go to a sports bar, have a few pints and yell and scream with the other basketball fans watching their favorite team. If I go to the right place, I can smoke a cigar at the same time. Got a pretty good Fuente in the humidor just waiting to be smoked.
Not sure I agree with the first two comments. I think JM has grown in confidence and with it, the ability to move around and through screens, to elevate above typically shorter defenders, and confidence in his teammates for being in the right spot at the right time. This is a warranted discussion for JM.
in response to DonK37920: No ill will toward these coaches. That's how the system works these days. I just wonder how long CFB assistant's and HC salaries can continue to rise. Seems like they have really exploded in the last 5 years or so. You would think they have to level out soon with overall attendance on the decline the last couple of years.
in response to DonK37920:
No ill will toward these coaches. That's how the system works these days. I just wonder how long CFB assistant's and HC salaries can continue to rise. Seems like they have really exploded in the last 5 years or so. You would think they have to level out soon with overall attendance on the decline the last couple of years.
Revenues are up. TV.
I'm not sure why all the hate. GA played their best game of the year and made some tough shots. It did look like the 50-50 calls by the refs went GAs way. I kind of thought the VOLS didn't have their legs except for McRae. McBee's shots - several that I saw that drew nothing looked to be right on - just short. That's a leg strength issue. Darnel missed too many layups. If Darnel, McBee and Golden shoot 30%, we win by 10.
I've never liked players talking about anything other than the next game in front of them. Hopefully, this article cherry picked the comments and most of their mental energy is focused on Georgia.
very good report. They have a chance.
in response to volthrunthru#658770: Great game by McRae...and the rest of the Vos. Golden's 20 was marred a little by turnovers. He showed maturity in this one that had not been evident before---he was able to steer his play back between the white lines after a couple of ball handling mistakes, and did not let themistakes throw him for long or grab control of his focus. Stokes is deceptively quick...and can handle the basketball on the floor. LSU was well coached. For a second game in a row, UT's bench looked the part of winners---players composed as they celebrated, coaches dressed like professional coaches, etc. Good to see that UT is well represented in front of a national TV audience. I wish somebody would tell Coach Martin to sit up straight and smile when he is being interviewed on camera after the game. His sitting down low, leaning on his elbows, makes him seem intimidated, etc. That sometimes happens whtn a big guy is trying to get close to the microphone. 18 inches away is about right, if you are speaking up. He needs to speak a little louder, sit up straight and smile, to look the part of the composed, confident leader. It will help the perception. He is such a big, tall guy that if he scrunches down, he has a tendency to look (on camera) as if he is intimidated...and scrunching down also makes people speak softer and with less authority. Great game, Vols. GOVOLS! GOVOLS! GOVOLS! Can they do it again?
in response to volthrunthru#658770:
Great game by McRae...and the rest of the Vos.
Golden's 20 was marred a little by turnovers. He showed maturity in this one that had not been evident before---he was able to steer his play back between the white lines after a couple of ball handling mistakes, and did not let themistakes throw him for long or grab control of his focus.
Stokes is deceptively quick...and can handle the basketball on the floor.
LSU was well coached.
For a second game in a row, UT's bench looked the part of winners---players composed as they celebrated, coaches dressed like professional coaches, etc. Good to see that UT is well represented in front of a national TV audience.
I wish somebody would tell Coach Martin to sit up straight and smile when he is being interviewed on camera after the game. His sitting down low, leaning on his elbows, makes him seem intimidated, etc. That sometimes happens whtn a big guy is trying to get close to the microphone. 18 inches away is about right, if you are speaking up.
He needs to speak a little louder, sit up straight and smile, to look the part of the composed, confident leader. It will help the perception. He is such a big, tall guy that if he scrunches down, he has a tendency to look (on camera) as if he is intimidated...and scrunching down also makes people speak softer and with less authority.
Great game, Vols.
GOVOLS! GOVOLS! GOVOLS!
Can they do it again?
WTF are you talking about. The man is all class and obviously knows what he is doing or talking about. You obviously don't.
in response to MONGOloveSHERIFFbart: Yep you're right. And there resides his problem. When these kids come back with their weak NBA evaluations he'll have one difficult decision to make. Keep the ones you got or cut em' loose for the ones coming. Either way he'll have to break some promises to some one and when that happens......well you know the rest.
in response to MONGOloveSHERIFFbart:
Yep you're right. And there resides his problem. When these kids come back with their weak NBA evaluations he'll have one difficult decision to make. Keep the ones you got or cut em' loose for the ones coming. Either way he'll have to break some promises to some one and when that happens......well you know the rest.
The problem might be even bigger than that. These one-and-doners probably aren't going to class or making the grades. What do they care, they are supposed to be in the NBA next year. Now, they have to come back and oops, they don't have the GPA to stay on the team. But, they aren't kicked out of school so they consume a scholly. Our buddy coach cal of memphis and uconn probation fame gets his due. He won't have enough players to practice.
in response to orangecountyvols: Ok, this is for the punk kid, Seven. May we quote you, kid? "There are no guarantees in life except death, taxes, and Kentucky beating Tennessee." That was your prophesy was it not? Biggest loss in the sleazebag Calipari's career. And the final score of - 30 wasn't as bad as it was earlier. A Kittie assistant coach shown the exit........really should have been the sleazebag. Anyway Vol fans, as much grief as this Tennessee team has taken, it's nice to add one more win to the number of victories the Vols have had against Kentucky..........more than any other team in the NCAA. CBS in my area must have seen this one coming, as they wanted a competitive game to show, so they had Pitt and Marquette. Having to listen to Bob Kesling was still nice .........hearing Bert say "MONEY" every time we shot the ball.
in response to orangecountyvols:
Ok, this is for the punk kid, Seven.
May we quote you, kid? "There are no guarantees in life except death, taxes, and Kentucky beating Tennessee." That was your prophesy was it not?
Biggest loss in the sleazebag Calipari's career.
And the final score of - 30 wasn't as bad as it was earlier.
A Kittie assistant coach shown the exit........really should have been the sleazebag. Anyway Vol fans, as much grief as this Tennessee team has taken, it's nice to add one more win to the number of victories the Vols have had against Kentucky..........more than any other team in the NCAA.
CBS in my area must have seen this one coming, as they wanted a competitive game to show, so they had Pitt and Marquette. Having to listen to Bob Kesling was still nice .........hearing Bert say "MONEY" every time we shot the ball.
Yeah, that was the game I had to watch until I logged onto CBS Sports and watched the last 14 minutes on-line. Had to be better than Kesling. At least this time Bert claiming Money had some meaning. I've listened to him too many times scream "Money" when someone hits their first 3 pt goal in the last 10 attempts. I always kind of thought screaming "money" meant whenever someone shot it was good. Oh well...
Damn good game. Well played - as much as I could see of it. Team is gaining confidence. As I said, didn't see all of it, but it appeared we didn't turn the ball over that much. Take care of the ball and good things happen.
Body of work - what a joke.
in response to Orange_Beach: If Tuscaloosa needs cleaning up Knocksville needs flushing.
in response to Orange_Beach:
If Tuscaloosa needs cleaning up Knocksville needs flushing.
Pa-ROLE Tide!
Another thought - saw Cuonzo on the post game interview. It's nice to have a coach who is intelligent, articulate and down to earth. He doesn't whine, says it like it is. I hope this team turns it around for him.
Only saw/heard the second half. Seemed like turnovers were down and that the players played with passion. Two keys to winning. Now take care of the ball against KY and play with the same passion - who knows.
in response to CrankE: Parole Tide
in response to CrankE:
Parole Tide
Now that's funny
in response to VOLS_SEC_RULES: Responsibility 101. Great idea.
in response to VOLS_SEC_RULES:
Responsibility 101. Great idea.
Peer pressure, peer review, teambuilding 101. Great idea indeed. Think about Al Wilson being a team captain and some punk tries to rob some guys of the hamburgers. We would never hear about the beating Wilson would deliver. The message would be received.
in response to AclockworkOrange: Great post on the history of Pearl. Some UT fans have short memories or no memory at all of his past. Do u know if he had any violations while at Mill-Wisc?
in response to AclockworkOrange:
Great post on the history of Pearl. Some UT fans have short memories or no memory at all of his past. Do u know if he had any violations while at Mill-Wisc?
I think Johnlgo's post is somewhat accurate but not entirely. Pearl had Dr Tom's backing all the way and he had the respect of many of his colleagues. The animosity IL has for him is similar to the animosity most Bama fans have for Fulmer. While their methods for uncovering the wrong doing are questionable, the wrongdoing sill occurred.
Pearl was a hot commodity when UT found him. UWM loved him and all he did was take a small school that plays third fiddle to UW Madison and Marquette to the tournament on a regular basis. When Pearl was at UT, he was mentioned for bigger basketball jobs every year. Bottom line, while there was a contingent of Pearl non-supporters, most in the basketball saw Pearl for what he is - a very good coach and good ambassador of the game.
in response to BolivrBob: What a marroon
in response to BolivrBob:
What a marroon
uh, oops.
in response to FWBVol: It's true that the 3-4 defense is more or less the same thing as the 5-2 and it doesn't mattere what defense you play as long as you play defense. The issue involves the kind of players you have to play the 4-3 or 5-2/3-4. The defensive ends in a 4-3 are true defensive ends that usually play with their hand on the ground and line up on the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle. They are usually heavier than standup defensive end/outside linebacker in the 5-2/3-4. The defensive ends/outside linebackers in a 5-2/3-4 often have more pass coverage responsibility too. To make the switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in college isn't easy as it requires whole sale changes in the kind of players needed to play different postions. UT tried to make the switch to a 3-4 without having all the parts in place to the defense. The bottom line is some coaches are successful with a 4-3 and others are success with a 3-4. If the players make plays the coaches look brilliant and if they don't the defensive coordinator ends up coaching linebackers at Florida State.
in response to FWBVol:
It's true that the 3-4 defense is more or less the same thing as the 5-2 and it doesn't mattere what defense you play as long as you play defense. The issue involves the kind of players you have to play the 4-3 or 5-2/3-4.
The defensive ends in a 4-3 are true defensive ends that usually play with their hand on the ground and line up on the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle. They are usually heavier than standup defensive end/outside linebacker in the 5-2/3-4.
The defensive ends/outside linebackers in a 5-2/3-4 often have more pass coverage responsibility too.
To make the switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 in college isn't easy as it requires whole sale changes in the kind of players needed to play different postions.
UT tried to make the switch to a 3-4 without having all the parts in place to the defense.
The bottom line is some coaches are successful with a 4-3 and others are success with a 3-4. If the players make plays the coaches look brilliant and if they don't the defensive coordinator ends up coaching linebackers at Florida State.
Agreed and well said except the insinuation that players failed to execute for Sunseri. It goes far deeper than that and the blame falls squarely on the DCs shoulders. By the third game of the season, he could no longer even communicate with a bunch of kids that one year earlier were a much more cohesive unit. So, not only do you need the players, you need a coach who knows how to coach in less than perfect circumstances.
In reality, that is what will be the success or failure of this coaching staff...can they get it done in less than perfect circumstances.
in response to Orangeblood13: fantastic
in response to Orangeblood13:
fantastic
That might be overstating it a bit, but agree. I wish kns would get behind this team. The negativity and the rabble rousing starts with them.
McRae said we need to START taking care of the ball. wow! That pretty much sums up the lack of coaching they are getting. Should have been the focus game one.
in response to Orangeblood13: real gems on the comments herewow
real gems on the comments herewow
Best post yet.
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