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in response to jhncpps1: NO...NEVER...This was awful...The win was nice but the jerseys were awful...Tennessee's colors are Orange and White ONLY (Baseball needs to figure that out)...also it was another Kiffin thing so another reason to never do it again.
in response to jhncpps1:
NO...NEVER...This was awful...The win was nice but the jerseys were awful...Tennessee's colors are Orange and White ONLY (Baseball needs to figure that out)...also it was another Kiffin thing so another reason to never do it again.
Totally disagree! Those black jerseys looked awesome! I only wish UT did the helmet to match that night, as it was Halloween. The Vols unis have been so boring over the years, and it's time they got with the times and broke out special jerseys for big games. Teams with bigger football traditions have.
in response to oldster: The family situation is rapidly becoming the norm in the country. I wish Cierra, Lisa a CJ well. Their lives have almost certainly been quite a trial up to this point. As the father of bi-racial children myself, I know about he presumptious (but well meaning) souls. My wife and I once had a lady ask if our daughter was not mine by a previous marriage and our son was my wife's by a previous marriage. She seemed quite surprised when we responded that they were both ours by the only marriage either of us has ever had.
in response to oldster:
The family situation is rapidly becoming the norm in the country. I wish Cierra, Lisa a CJ well. Their lives have almost certainly been quite a trial up to this point.
As the father of bi-racial children myself, I know about he presumptious (but well meaning) souls. My wife and I once had a lady ask if our daughter was not mine by a previous marriage and our son was my wife's by a previous marriage. She seemed quite surprised when we responded that they were both ours by the only marriage either of us has ever had.
My wife and I are an interracial couple and we have a 2-year-old son. We've never experienced moments like you and Ciera and her mom encountered, but we are very aware that people stare and do wonder. People assume because you are an interracial couple that your children have different mothers or fathers. There are always going to be people who obviously haven't been educated about tolerance.
in response to sitinhere: I would love to see Herman become the next Arian Foster. A Vol that gets in as an undrafted free agent and become top of his position. HL is a great player and a heck of a person. When I see Bray, I see Jeff George, million dollar talent $.25 brain. It kills me to see a guy who has more talent than any other QB in the draft throw it away because of immaturity, laziness and bad attitude.
in response to sitinhere:
I would love to see Herman become the next Arian Foster. A Vol that gets in as an undrafted free agent and become top of his position. HL is a great player and a heck of a person.
When I see Bray, I see Jeff George, million dollar talent $.25 brain. It kills me to see a guy who has more talent than any other QB in the draft throw it away because of immaturity, laziness and bad attitude.
He brought it on himself. If he carried himself as a QB and leader, and worked harder at his craft, he would have been a first-round lock. Sad, sad waste of talent. He knows if he doesn't make it with the Chiefs, he should start getting sized for his Burger King uniform.
in response to hikerdude: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bray will never start a game in the NFL. Big arm, little brain, bad attitude.
in response to hikerdude:
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bray will never start a game in the NFL. Big arm, little brain, bad attitude.
...which is why teams avoided him like the plague. Hope this has humbled him and will make him realize that he's with the big boys now and they're not gonna put up with his college party boy garbage.
in response to chattabluetick: No reason for Bray to have returned with all rec eivers gone and a new offense to learn. All that would accomplish for him would be more film of him in more beatdowns by the best teams on our schedule again. At Oregon, at Florida, at Alabama, and roll the dice home games against Georgia and South Carolina. I don't think we needed him holding up the progress of the Vols for another year. He was at the helm for three years and Da'Rick was here two years and apparently they didn't take the opportunity given them seriously. Too many people who would give anything to have the chance that each got. No telling how many million dollars the two of them let get away. With Peyton down every year and always hearing how hard he works and how much he studies never rang a bell with Bray. These two players will be examples in the future of what not to do. Free agency may afford each one more chance to play. After that welcome to the real world you could have avoided, 8 to 5 baby!
in response to chattabluetick:
No reason for Bray to have returned with all rec eivers gone and a new offense to learn. All that would accomplish for him would be more film of him in more beatdowns by the best teams on our schedule again. At Oregon, at Florida, at Alabama, and roll the dice home games against Georgia and South Carolina. I don't think we needed him holding up the progress of the Vols for another year. He was at the helm for three years and Da'Rick was here two years and apparently they didn't take the opportunity given them seriously. Too many people who would give anything to have the chance that each got. No telling how many million dollars the two of them let get away. With Peyton down every year and always hearing how hard he works and how much he studies never rang a bell with Bray. These two players will be examples in the future of what not to do. Free agency may afford each one more chance to play. After that welcome to the real world you could have avoided, 8 to 5 baby!
Well said! I hope they both learned a valuable lesson this weekend. They both have a lot to prove in their respective mini camps and training camps. If they don't make the team, they may be done.
in response to Colliervol: For blame, all Bray has to do is look in the mirror. Heck, if Peyton had thought it worth it, I'm pretty sure he could have made a call to Bronco mgmt and gotten them to spend that 7th round pick on Bray instead of Zac Dysart. Obviously he didn't. Maybe he'll get them to look at him as a free agent but I doubt it.
in response to Colliervol:
For blame, all Bray has to do is look in the mirror. Heck, if Peyton had thought it worth it, I'm pretty sure he could have made a call to Bronco mgmt and gotten them to spend that 7th round pick on Bray instead of Zac Dysart. Obviously he didn't. Maybe he'll get them to look at him as a free agent but I doubt it.
When I saw the last part of the seventh round, I thought for a second that the Broncos would take him. That couldn't have been a better situation for Bray, as Peyton could have taken him under his wing and taught him how to read defenses and how to be a professional. Hope the folks in KC will be good for him.
Good! Because I was going to say he needs to go through the process of coming back for his senior year and helping UT contend for the SEC title and get to the Big Dance.
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Uh dude, why don't you take your ten-cent butt off this site and go play more XBox in your mother's basement? They haven't even coached one game yet and you're already calling them losers? You must know the coaches really well to make that assessment. We know they're going to struggle the first season, and we don't need d---heads like you on these message boards to say that.
I'm not a fan of Geno as a person, but I have to admit that his teams are well-coached, focused and come ready to play all the time. They play incredible defense and are always around the ball. Sometimes the Lady Vols get too timid and don't hustle as much as past teams did, and they don't play consistent defense.
On that note, I think it's time the Lady Vols and UConn started playing again. I hear stuff about Pat discontinuing the series because of the recruitment of Maya Moore, but it's in the past now. If the Lady Vols want to get their mantle back on top of women's basketball, they should bury the hatchet and mix it up with Geno and UConn again. It's the greatest rivalry in women's basketball, and they need to get it going again for the fans and everyone involved.
in response to thevoice: Both need more on the resume, says Scotty Hopson.
in response to thevoice:
Both need more on the resume, says Scotty Hopson.
They should both talk to Hopson and ask how the decision to leave early is working out for him. The only things he can tell them are where the best places to eat and where the cutest women hang out in Turkey.
They're both on crack if they think they're ready for the NBA. They need to wake up from their fantasies and work on their games to help get the Vols into the Dance next year, and maybe contend for an SEC championship.
in response to tomkats3242: John you still don't know what your talking about. PLEASE retire and go away. UT fans don't want you any longer. What a waste of space. Come on KNS, FIRE ADAMS
in response to tomkats3242:
John you still don't know what your talking about. PLEASE retire and go away. UT fans don't want you any longer. What a waste of space. Come on KNS, FIRE ADAMS
Uh, I believe he does know what he is talking about. The Lady Vols played horrible. This was a very winnable game and they just let Louisville beat them like they stole something. Whether you like or hate Adams, he is not paid to be a cheerleader — he is paid to give his opinions and thoughts. Sometimes he's right and sometimes he's harsh. He's just keeping it real.
in response to rogatl2002#222395: You know I have thought before that UT fans were really too rough on you Adams but your columns today and yesterday are really pieces of trash. They are not insightful in any way. UT deserves better. All you do it state obvious things that we can see for ourself....instead of adding to our understanding by pointing out things your readers might not see for themselves. This column is worthy of a first year journalism student writing for the Daily Beacon...not the senior sportswriter for a major city newspaper.
in response to rogatl2002#222395:
You know I have thought before that UT fans were really too rough on you Adams but your columns today and yesterday are really pieces of trash. They are not insightful in any way. UT deserves better. All you do it state obvious things that we can see for ourself....instead of adding to our understanding by pointing out things your readers might not see for themselves. This column is worthy of a first year journalism student writing for the Daily Beacon...not the senior sportswriter for a major city newspaper.
Well...sorry if the truth hurts and you can't deal with it.
If this is the case, it may be another long season on Rocky Top.
in response to SevenT: After Tennessee trashed Pat Summit and threw her out I am glad this happened.
in response to SevenT:
After Tennessee trashed Pat Summit and threw her out I am glad this happened.
What the samhill are you talking about? UT did not "trash" Pat. She left on her own terms and would never have allowed herself to be forced out. She has enough stroke to have left on her own terms. If it were true Hart tried to push her out, he would be out before her.
I would hope the Lady Vols don't get too confident. Louisville really punked up Griner and trash-talked her, so they have some swagger right now. The Lady Vols better be ready.
I called this after finding out the Vols didn't make the Big Dance. I knew it would be a sparse crowd, and I had a gut feeling the Vols wouldn't be up for this game after being snubbed by the NCAA. It looks like the selection committee knew what it was doing after all.
in response to PUL4VOLS: If you don't want to be in the NIT why accept the bid and no. 1 seed? I cannot feel sorry for the Kats. They have the best ever in the history of the world recruiting class coming in and hey those guys will likely be the starters. Who knows? It is a disappointment in Lex. but Robert Morris is living it up and loving every minute of it.
in response to PUL4VOLS:
If you don't want to be in the NIT why accept the bid and no. 1 seed? I cannot feel sorry for the Kats. They have the best ever in the history of the world recruiting class coming in and hey those guys will likely be the starters. Who knows? It is a disappointment in Lex. but Robert Morris is living it up and loving every minute of it.
Exactly. They didn't have to accept the bid if they didn't want to be there.
I know they have difficult jobs, but that salary is way too much. Some CEO, lawyers and doctors have much, much harder jobs and some don't even make $100,000 a year.
in response to SevenT: Time for Dooley Part II. I wonder what the Vegas line is for the number of seasons Davis will have until he is fired?
Time for Dooley Part II.
I wonder what the Vegas line is for the number of seasons Davis will have until he is fired?
Optimistic, aren't we? Already trolling after one practice. Wow.
in response to jjk: Dooley and Chaney have it made. I don't know what Dooley's salary is with the Cowboys, but to be getting $106,000 and some change a month for the next three years on top of his salary, I'm sure he doesn't mind his horrible legacy at UT. He's got a better gig, and even if he gets fired from that, he won't have to work again.
in response to jjk:
Dooley and Chaney have it made. I don't know what Dooley's salary is with the Cowboys, but to be getting $106,000 and some change a month for the next three years on top of his salary, I'm sure he doesn't mind his horrible legacy at UT. He's got a better gig, and even if he gets fired from that, he won't have to work again.
Oops, almost forgot, Chaney making $550,000 a year at Arkansas, and $50,000 a month from UT on top of that? He's got to be giddy right now. I think I may have to get into this assistant coach thing, because their salaries are equivalent of CEOs and high-powered lawyers.
in response to Moesart: So, UT will be paying Dooley $3,644 a day through December 2016. I could live with being known as the worst TN coach ever for that deal.
in response to Moesart:
So, UT will be paying Dooley $3,644 a day through December 2016. I could live with being known as the worst TN coach ever for that deal.
in response to MikeInTN: Absolutely ridiculous!!! Hart will be completely gray, or bald when...if...he gets us out of this financial "Dooley" mess!!! I sure has heck don't envy him.
in response to MikeInTN:
Absolutely ridiculous!!! Hart will be completely gray, or bald when...if...he gets us out of this financial "Dooley" mess!!! I sure has heck don't envy him.
Remember, it was Mike Hamilton who was stupid enough to give Dooley that big buyout. Hamilton is the reason UT is in terrible financial shape, because he wasn't thinking. On that note, I still don't get how you can resign from your job and get a buyout. I thought when you quit a job you get nothing.
in response to SevenT: How much do they still owe Fulmer? What a bunch of UT idiots!
How much do they still owe Fulmer?
What a bunch of UT idiots!
None. His buyout was paid off in December.
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in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:
Pretty optimistic, aren't you? Coach Jones hasn't coached a game yet for the Vols, and you're jumping to conclusions. Jones needs to get a pass this season, because the schedule is brutal and he is breaking in a new QB, new WRs and a defense is adjusting to a new system after sucking badly last season. Your predicted record may come into fruition, but let's see how they do the first month of the season before coming to that assessment. Dooley needed time, but that team wasn't getting any better, and Jones needs time to get his guys in.
Nick Saban is speaking in Athens for about an hour at the Athens Chamber of Commerce. Big freakin' deal! Why is everyone in a tizzy about it? He speaks, then he leaves. I don't think he's here to recruit. He already has all the five-star players he wants, plus there's better talent in the surrounding states.
He was a fantastic kick returner, and should have been a better player than what he was. I agree with the post that whoever was advising him to go pro needs to be shot. They didn't care about him, they just wanted to get their piece of the pie. Hope he can learn from this and get his life straightened out.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: No worries, I may be in my 50's but that didn't offend me in the least..Jerry Jones is a buffoon, and his blatant denial that Jason Garrett is the coach he should of fired and then hired Bill Cowher in his place..He doesn't see the forest for the trees.
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:
No worries, I may be in my 50's but that didn't offend me in the least..Jerry Jones is a buffoon, and his blatant denial that Jason Garrett is the coach he should of fired and then hired Bill Cowher in his place..He doesn't see the forest for the trees.
I couldn't have said that better myself! A poster just joked that Lane Kiffin will get fired from USC after next season and Jerry will hire him as head coach to team with his dad once again. Sadly enough, I wouldn't put it past Jerry to do that.
in response to VOLS_SEC_RULES: Jerry Jones will draft Da'Rick to keep Dooley busy. Garrett will be fired after next season. Lane Kiffin will be fired from USC and Jerry Jones will hire him as head coach. Jerry will then hire Fulmer to coach offensive line.
in response to VOLS_SEC_RULES:
Jerry Jones will draft Da'Rick to keep Dooley busy. Garrett will be fired after next season. Lane Kiffin will be fired from USC and Jerry Jones will hire him as head coach. Jerry will then hire Fulmer to coach offensive line.
Please don't give Jerry any ideas as far as Kiffin!
in response to notorange: I wonder if he will be trying to get the cboys to draft Patterson and Hunter?? Smart money says no...
in response to notorange:
I wonder if he will be trying to get the cboys to draft Patterson and Hunter?? Smart money says no...
Don't be so sure about that. I think he will try to convince Jones to get one of those guys.
in response to johnlg00: Well, he wasn't the receivers coach at UT! He did play the position in college and has coached tight ends before. I'm not a Cowboys fan, so I don't care how he does with them. I would mainly like to know if getting this job relieves UT of any of his buyout.
in response to johnlg00:
Well, he wasn't the receivers coach at UT! He did play the position in college and has coached tight ends before. I'm not a Cowboys fan, so I don't care how he does with them. I would mainly like to know if getting this job relieves UT of any of his buyout.
No, it doesn't. UT still has to pay him, even with a new job.
Tuesday was disappointing because that was a very winnable game against a Kentucky team that is one of Cal's worst since he's been there. They don't have much chemistry like last year's team did. Cuonzo better get these guys playing, or Hart may start sniffing around early. I like Cuonzo a lot, but this is inexcusable.
I guess it's official, although everyone has known for weeks that Bray, Hunter and Patterson were gone. Sentimore, I didn't know much about him, but not a big loss.
in response to Olddogsrule: a travesty ... and as mountainbrook sez ... "everybody gets a trophy these days" Wish it weren't so. Now it'll be harder than ever to get johnnyboy "relocated" to the obituaries and get a real sportswriter at kns. I'd like the whole kns sports dept. to be fired and replaced, just like they do for college coaches. If you really want change there, do like I did and cancel your home delivery subscription and tell them why. All the adams koolaide drinkers don't know what real sportswriting is, or they'd never ever give him kudos. And no, it's not pollyannaish drivel. But neither should it be dripping sarcasm and ridicule. FIRE JOHN ADAMS - CAN'T STAND, CAN'T STAND HIS STYLE!!!
in response to Olddogsrule:
a travesty ... and as mountainbrook sez ... "everybody gets a trophy these days" Wish it weren't so. Now it'll be harder than ever to get johnnyboy "relocated" to the obituaries and get a real sportswriter at kns. I'd like the whole kns sports dept. to be fired and replaced, just like they do for college coaches. If you really want change there, do like I did and cancel your home delivery subscription and tell them why. All the adams koolaide drinkers don't know what real sportswriting is, or they'd never ever give him kudos. And no, it's not pollyannaish drivel. But neither should it be dripping sarcasm and ridicule.
FIRE JOHN ADAMS - CAN'T STAND, CAN'T STAND HIS STYLE!!!
Why? Because he tells the truth about how bad UT football has been, and he just gives his opinion? You don't have to agree with it, that's what he gets paid to do.
Congratulations John! What a great honor. I know there are haters on here who don't like you because you keep it real about the struggles of UT football and you don't kiss their or their favorite team's butts, but just ignore them and keep doing what you do.
in response to eduardo: Great hire morons! Went on the cheap once again! My gosh this is ridiculous. Our once proud program is at the bottom of the sec because of idiot hirings. Could of had Brian Kelly, could have had Kevin Sumlin. Tried to hire Louisvilles coach and instead had to settle for a guy who was schooled by the worst coach in program history. Cant tell me that they had no chance at Gruden. No way too much smoke!!!!
in response to eduardo:
Great hire morons! Went on the cheap once again! My gosh this is ridiculous. Our once proud program is at the bottom of the sec because of idiot hirings. Could of had Brian Kelly, could have had Kevin Sumlin. Tried to hire Louisvilles coach and instead had to settle for a guy who was schooled by the worst coach in program history. Cant tell me that they had no chance at Gruden. No way too much smoke!!!!
Gruden was a pipe dream, Eduardo. Strong probably was on the verge of taking the job, but I think loyalty won out, and you can't fault him for that. I do agree that I shake my head knowing we could have had Kelly or Sumlin. Mike Hamilton pooped the bed on his football hires, and the program will be paying for it with fewer wins and little money for a while. I like Jones, but he WILL need time and should get a pass this coming season.
This UK team is nowhere near as good as last year. Last year's team was special because Davis was a beast and no one cared who scored most of the points. The chemistry was phenomenal. So far, this team will be lucky to make the Dance as a five or six seed.
Sorry if the truth hurts, Vol Nation. With Bray, Patterson, Hunter and others gone, Jones should get a pass his first year. Neither of those QBs are going to light the world on fire. Worley has played sparingly, and Peterman has yet to take a snap. The RBs aren't as good as their press clippings say, we will have some inexperienced WRs, and who knows what the defense will look like? I want to remain optimistic that Jones can get it done, but this is probably going to be a bigger challenge than Dooley's first year. Especially with that schedule. Vol Nation better be patient, because although Jones brings good credentials to the table, 2013 may be another long year.
Adams gets paid to give his opinion. People get mad because he is supposed to have the "Everyone gets a trophy" attitude when the Vols look bad in losses. He tells it like it is, and if you can't deal with it, too bad. I guess the truth hurts for some people.
Oh quit being such fuddy-duddys folks, this was Christmas Day humor. I loved the David Stern references, but I wouldn't put it past him to do stuff like that for real. Like he fines the Heat for not playing LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh the whole fourth quarter when they are blowing out the Clippers in a nationally-televised game.
in response to emailnodata: Ok, I did see Bama beating LSU badly. LSU was very lucky to get the first win, and as UT fans (sadly) remember from 2001, it's very, very tough to beat a talented team twice. I did NOT see UT's defense just completely collapsing. Any D, and any small good fortune, and football team beats-UGA-USC-MSU-Mizzou-UFWinning those, I don't think they lose to Vandy. That, folks is an 11-1 record. Even splitting, say, UGA and UF, it's a 10-win season. In that regard, Dooley has a strong case for the woulda-coulda-shoulda blues.
in response to emailnodata:
Ok, I did see Bama beating LSU badly. LSU was very lucky to get the first win, and as UT fans (sadly) remember from 2001, it's very, very tough to beat a talented team twice.
I did NOT see UT's defense just completely collapsing.
Any D, and any small good fortune, and football team beats-UGA-USC-MSU-Mizzou-UFWinning those, I don't think they lose to Vandy.
That, folks is an 11-1 record. Even splitting, say, UGA and UF, it's a 10-win season.
In that regard, Dooley has a strong case for the woulda-coulda-shoulda blues.
Agreed. Dooley signed his own death warrant by hiring Sal Sunseri to run the 3-4 instead of just promoting Lance Thompson to defensive coordinator and keeping things as is. I guarantee Dooley wins at least three, maybe four more games if the defense could stop someone, and he would still have a job.
I don't think anyone should be surprised by this. I think it was pretty obvious he was leaving, and Bray and Patterson will likely follow him. When you have a child to support, who can blame him. Besides, I don't think there was much more to accomplish here anyway. He was a fantastic player for the Vols, and it was too bad that his 2011 season was wiped out with injury. Hope he goes to a decent team that will utilize him. Best of luck on Sundays, Justin!
in response to Hound_Dog69: he'll turn out to be another nobody like robert meachem!
in response to Hound_Dog69:
he'll turn out to be another nobody like robert meachem!
Uh, Meachem is hardly a nobody! He was one of Drew Brees' top targets with the Saints for many years. He's with San Diego now, not sure how he's doing. Regardless, he's had a great NFL career.
I'm disappointed he turned UT down, but he has to do what is best for him and his family. Maybe his wife wanted to stay in L.A. so she can try to pursue her singing career, but she could easily do that in Nashville or Atlanta nearby. He has had opportunities before to come back here, but it didn't work out. Don't close the door on it, folks. Maybe he will one day. Godspeed, Tee!
Please Tee, come back! The Vols need you! Don't let your wife wear the pants on this one. It's never been a better situation.
in response to civilianvol_formerly_marinevol: Hart should have turned the search over to a blue-chip head hunter committee. He obviously doesn't know what he's doing by letting coaches play with him to get big raises from their current schools. I have less confidence in him every day. He's starting to look pretty foolish.
in response to civilianvol_formerly_marinevol:
Hart should have turned the search over to a blue-chip head hunter committee. He obviously doesn't know what he's doing by letting coaches play with him to get big raises from their current schools. I have less confidence in him every day. He's starting to look pretty foolish.
I think I'm inclined to agree.
If they don't make the right hire, the season ticket holder will get free Hardee's thickburgers with the tickets.
Great to hear something on the record now. Can fans finally put this pipe dream to rest and get behind someone who has a great college coaching track record and actually wants to be here?
in response to VolGrad: Don't understand NC State firing Tom O'Brien.
in response to VolGrad:
Don't understand NC State firing Tom O'Brien.
The AD there is a piece of work. She apparently doesn't want coaches she didn't hire.
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