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I don't know about Dave Hart? But the Blackburn guy is doing fine for UTC!! Watch out for little sister in the years to come. Well don't worry too much about the football team...But ladies bball AND men's bball? The Moc's have won 2 now! TWO I said! This year's ladies bball and a few years back men's. LOOKOUT UT! hmmm Did we play UT in baseball? Softball? I really don't know. But I would not be surprised to see Blackburn back eventually. Nothing against Hart but he IS ready for retirement some have said.

good analysis John00. You always say things clearly. I tend to speak too sarcastic or too humorous. Most the time I'm the only one who gets the joke. Not giving myself praise there.lol The running thought wasn't a joke but might be if we tried it. Up-tempo would be a better hope. We CAN run off of the other teams turnovers and need to. And I would like to see us on some offensive fastbreaks more. It's just more fun.

PS to anybody that likes UTC...I really like Shaka Smart's former asst. coach that just took the UTC job. Will Wade will "chaos" us to death next time UT plays them. At least in a coupla years when UTC recruits some and UT doesn't.hehe
Chaos is what Wade calls his defense since he can't use Smart's name for it.

He had offers from Georgia, Auburn, Georgia Tech, Clemson, UTEP, Charleston...needs work on his handle...good shooter...3* rivals.com

ok ok sounds like another project. So was Chism, Maze, and even J Smith and Lofton. I love projects. It makes the coaches earn their salaries.

OK now I'm thru.

WE just need a ball controller to get it up court. Moore and Thompson seem to be the best options. I like Lopez though and hope he develops.
Having three potential points would be awesome. I think Lopez and Moore were both a little awed by it all last year. They should have been working on their game all winter and this summer also. They have to be ready whether Thompson works out or not.imho The film I saw on Thompson looked like he could move with the ball. I hope so. All they need to do is get it to someone in the offense. What I like about Moore is his potential at drivin' the lanes and putbacks. He stays with it. I'm very hopefull for this team. If they disappoint me then so be it.lol

yeh. Academics. It wasn't there abilities that kept them out. It was and is a poor attitude towards larnin'. There were some very athletic players from the state champ era. The Benny Monroe era. Like him or not he had great teams.
I think a few actually made it to college...the Cobb brothers for instance.

Very good point. Plus they'd really be good fun games.

WE will definately need WHAT you said!! He's shown a little bit of drivin' power. Let's see if he can distribute. If he can handle as you said he'll be fightin' for startin' over Thompson at point. I can't see Richardson or McRae at point very often. Maybe early on some.
Actually Lopez may start early on some. I really think it'll be Thompson though.

Thompson/Moore/Lopez
Richardson/Hubbs/Reese
McRae/Hubbs/Reese/Chievous
Maymon/Chievous/Davis
Stokes/Ndiaye/Maymon

Golly we're gonna be competitive in practices. Right now it's in the players hands. How hard will they work?

My Kansas fan nephew should be happy his young Kansas squad is not plaing UT. However I'm sold on their coach as a legitimate future hall-of-fame guy. They'll be in the mix come next march.
I think they'll beat Florida. I'm for the SEC of course but that doesn't look like a good early match-up for Florida other than to gage. However the other match-ups look mostly good for the SEC right now. I predict a split in wins...hehe 50%-50%. 5and 5 Right down the ole middle...wait a minute that's baseball.

Goooooo SEC.

BTW who DO we play non-conference? Anybody? I'll look at the schedule right now if it's available. I'd bet money it's not finalized.

lol...look who's responding to who!?? just above if you didn't read it.

We have potentially a very talented team. Maybe a couple of sad posterers on here need to just enjoy life more. Pearls gone. "yesterdays gone...Don't stop dreamin' about tomorrow". That's my philosophy. But people have every right to be unhappy if they want I guess.

lol uhhh not laughing at the old part! I turn 58 on this month. BUT my doctor 10 years ago told me I had the arteries of an 80 year old.

Sooo enough of that stuff. I DO see the need for a point guard to present himself. We'll miss Trae but he wasn't a great point. I think he could have been possibly. Injuries I suppose.

Well we just have to hope the Thompson kid stays healthy and maybe that Moore learned a bit since last year.

PS disappointment is just a small part of living. I understand though. been there many times and especially conerning sports. UT and UTC

BUT UTC has a new ladies coach that will soon be a hall of fame coach. This could be positive. Jim Foster from Oh St!!

"if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all...doom despair and agony on me"

Hee hee hee haw haw haw

It's not that you're wrong exactly...it's the attitude!! C'mon man! By the time footblall's going we'll all be ready for some BBALL!!! No offense to any first year coaches.

It does seem that he moves whenever he has a low win total. But if we can't keep Moore then Foster can fill in for a few years maybe.

I completely forgot about AJ Davis!!

NCAAs here we come. Plenty of talent this year.
Our starting 5 will be awesome. I don't know who that'll be in a couple of places. But again I can't wait.

Go Vols. I'm also excited about football...though it is a mystery right now.

"Lies and cover-ups"??? or Gossop and gossip. Maybe both. Maybe they're just trying to put on a good face. Presenting things in a good light. Making the most out of what they have or doing what's best for all. lemon-aide out of lemons. A positive perspective. Or maybe they're "ALL" "cheats" and thieves and murderers and completely evil. All I really know is I love UT sports. I can only hope that all the bad reports from some fans on here are purely hearsay and innuendo. OR possibly fans of other teams trying to misguide our prospects.

Why would anybody want to sleep(or attempt sleeping) under a rock?
While I admit that we've gone a bit downhill at UT I do not know that it's particularly any admins fault. Pearl seems to have been badly handled for sure. But I disagree with Dooley's being a part of the downhill run. One or two defensive players more and he would have had a good third year. But he quit before he was fired.

As far as the Cheek thing goes?? I don't know the man and will not trust your judgment on him.
I personally would like to see this site as less of a gossip column and more of a sports info page. It doesn't matter really what any of us think about Cheek. Bring proof if you slander someone.

oops

I'm not sure but I may have read your post all wrong. To give myself a break I'm still not sure if you were on John's side or attacking him. But reading you again a couple of times I may have translated your post wrong. Sometimes sarcasm gets by me...even though I consider my self very apt. Either way I apologize.

AGAIN!!!sorry bout yellin' but you KNSers can't hear well.

Martin did not lie nor did he go back on his word. At least that we actually know or could ever prove. He MAY have convinced him to go elsewhere. It's done honorably all over the country in any other job or new hiring position. BUT because this is high level sports we think the boss has no control over who's on his team? It seems he actually didn't because if Landry left it WAS his choice. Of course I'm speculating like you were. BUT I'm not accusing Martin without any basis of fact. You shouldn't be whether you work for KNS or are just an enemy of UT's. It's called GOSSIP and possibly slander.

Now if it's just an attempt to get as many posts as possible? Well then it worked.

Excellent response. I didn't especially like his last season here but Dooley brought together one of the best offenses in the country. It didn't go to well with the worst defense but they tried up to the last several games. I don't miss Dooley but I didn't hate him and I'm for UT to win every game we can.

Now go Martin and go UT! Also I pray the best for Golden.

You're correct the comment was really, really stupid(yours).
Seriously you DID draw in another comment here. That makes ME a little bit stupid.

AGAIN Martin recruited him early(as a few other teams did) looking to have a backup PG this season. I think so anyways! But Landry's failure to produce at the new school was Landry's fault. NOT Martin's. UNLESS Martin was sneaking in the locker room and letting a little air out of the ball or something of that nature.
AGAIN we should wish the kid the best even maybe playing against us. they're all just kids. EVEN though some may take their God-given talents for granted. I hope this wasn't true with Landry. Probably not as his father seems a classy guy.

AGREE!!!...to borrow a word and 3 exclamations from Mr. Owensboro.

We've had two very good seasons of bball that imho should have earned a spot in the NCAAs.
We DID blow the last game both years. I credit lack of enthusiasm for the game more than coaching or who we played. But we did play teams that most likely would have deserved an NCAA bid too. We're actually looking very good for this next year in spite of what the haters think. I see Moore as a very good player... potentially of course. 3 very good wing players, two great post players, One potentially great point and one good back-up. Also a decent back-up in certain situations to those two PGs. Plus we have an opening for hopefully an experienced transfer player of some sort. I see things orange and great for this next year.

Thompson/Moore/transfer?
Richardson/Hubbs/Reese
McRae/Reese/Hubbs
Maymon/Chievous
Stokes/I still can't spell his name guy

Hubbs will get someone's start possibly.

It'll be great competition.

Landry is a good kid but we don't need him or Golden really. I especially hate that for Golden. He saved our B&%$$ a few times. Landry may turn out great for his new team. I hope so.
I just don't see the reason people are giving Martin such a hard time yet. Another bad finish and maybe then we can talk.

And how does this affect UT and Golden? He chose Minnesota and the son of the great Pitino!

I for one wish him the best as I do all kids out there. UT might could have used him but how were the coaches to know of Golden's departure? We know now and will find a great player out there that will fit right in this next year. We can hope. Oh and thanks for the post. not kidding...it gives hope that another PG may be out there.

Amen brother. YES Amen Preach it.

OH wait!!!? You're that troll guy aren't you?

Actually you both make some good points.But don't tell me that High school coaches don't play up the kids abilities...oversell if you will. Of course not all. But the lack of honesty most times goes with the seller and not the buyer. A contract of course could go either way. This IS more of a contract which is why the player has to ask out of the contract. Landry could not be forced to leave. I think he did what was best for him...even though it might appear at the moment that we need Landry.

You get this same possibility anywhere you sign. No exceptions.imho Attacking the coach for trying to make the team competitive is not helping. Martin needs a better point guard and has for a while. I would have loved to see Trae back but he was going to lose time at point. He probably would have helped the 2 position. But we let it go and move forward. Some of us do.

God bless you Trae wherever you end up.