Comments by murrayvol

Written on Peyton Manning 'looking forward to supporting' Butch Jones:

in response to Noogaorange:

I thought I'd heard that Peyton had a home on Wolftever Creek off of Chickamauga Lake.....anybody know if that's right? GBO VFL17

He probably has several.

Written on David Climer: College football recruiting reaches new low:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

13 is the proper marrying age in tucky..

That was a long time ago BB. We're up to 14 now.

Written on David Climer: College football recruiting reaches new low:

I feel for the kid. An offer from Kentucky can be a career killer.

Written on David Climer: College football recruiting reaches new low:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Odd, ambiguous column from Climer today. For all his bellyaching, he never explains WHY he thinks this is "too much."

Is it bad for the kids? Does it impede their maturation? Is it counter-motivational to their athletic development? Climer never says.

Is it bad for recruiting? Bad for college football? Does Climer believe recruiters have no legitimate basis for projecting who's going to be a 5-star in four years? He never says.

Climer offers no protest that a major part of recruiting is salesmanship, branding, and getting your program into the national spotlight. He even acknowledges that offering to 13-year olds is consistent with those goals.

If coaches are just using kids as PR props, and have no intention of honoring their word to these kids and their parents--sure, everyone should have a problem with that. Is that what Climer's getting at? He never says.

Maybe this is one of those two-fer articles. Monday's ambiguous whine begs the question so Wednesday's column can respond, "Well, now that you ask..."

When The Tennessean was locally owned, the editor might have returned this to Climer, said it's a good IDEA for an article, told him not to worry about submitting anything for Monday, do some research and come back with something special for Wednesday.

I'm guessing the only ones today with that kind of authority sit in the home office of Gannett Company outside D.C., and all they say is "fill the column with words before deadline as per your contract!"

Bottom line: Disappointed with the article ... sympathetic with the writer ... curious to learn something more about the issue.

Your post (with a bit of expansion) could actually qualify as the "two-fer". Why not submit and see what happens?

Written on UT's response to Marcus Lattimore injury earns SEC sportsmanship award:

Marcus played the game pretty well. Here's hoping he can do it again and at the same level. With that kind of injury the odds aren't good.

Written on UT's response to Marcus Lattimore injury earns SEC sportsmanship award:

in response to Ayres_Hall:

It isn't whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.

- Derek Dooley

And I thought Grantland Rice said that.

Written on John Adams: Preseason line on UT isn't all bad:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

You can't argue with facts..+1.

You certainly can and many who frequent this board do BB.

Written on John Adams: Preseason line on UT isn't all bad:

in response to CCLC:

The UGA and uSC games were very close, but it was the close loss to uSC that broke UT's will. Following that near upset, two 5-7 teams,one from the Sun Belt conference, scored a whopping 99 points on that VOl D.

+1 Sometimes a blind hog finds a pearl.:{)

Written on John Adams: Preseason line on UT isn't all bad:

"matriculate" our way down the field??? What?

I mostly agree with your post but the above doesn't work in that context.

Written on Pat Summitt receives Keith Jackson Eternal Flame Award:

in response to ActualUTAlum:

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El Douche rides again.

Written on Mike Strange: Plenty of room for improvement as UT turns to 2013-14:

in response to DC82_Vol:

With soccer at an all time high, I wonder why UT does not have a men's soccer team.

Soccer is the team sport equivalent of musky fishing.

Written on What does Vegas say about Vols in 2013? :

I hope Vegas is worng but they're usually not.

Those who frequent this board should remember that fan is derived from "fanatic". Which is why I predict 7-5 and a bowl win. Which is why I don't bet much. GBO

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

in response to JBVols1698:

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Every troll has his season. The answer is winning......a lot.

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

in response to TommyJack:

Close the southern border.

Let's keep politics out of this TJ. :{)

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

in response to shiftb:

Useless platitudes. What did he do, talk about honesty and character? The man who said over and over and over, "I will not be the coach at Alabama".

They made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

in response to SevenT:

Finally some class arrives in Tennessee

And there you go.......farting in the elevator again.

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

in response to Colliervol:

Exactly Murray. Lots of sidewalk Bammer alumni when they win. But that's like most schools I guess. Only the real fans stick around when times aren't so good. I believe they'll come back down to earth when Saban hangs it up. He is the sole catalyst for their amazing run.

He's good. He's very good. On the short list for Best College Coach Ever. It may take awhile, but even Saban will get old. I can't wait.

Written on Sea of crimson in Big Orange country for Nick Saban speech:

For the better part of 15 years that "sea of crimson" was hard to find.

I long for the return of those thrilling days of yesteryear. Bring back Mike, or Dennis, or the other Mike, anybody but Saban.

Written on 2014 power forward Philip Cofer commits to Vols :

in response to xanga:

meanwhile the rest of the SEC is recruiting top 5 classes

Give it up for The Fount of Flatulence. pffffft!

Written on Saban's scheduled Tennessee appearance causes stir:

in response to brokebackvol:

Actually Kevin, if you look at the big picture with this rivalry over the years, it's been very "streaky." Don't be surprised when the Vols break the streak and start one.

That'll happen when Saban leaves.

Replacing Nick will be infinitely harder than replacing Bryant. The Bamians may never get over this one.

Written on John Adams: Recruit's SEC endorsement worth repeating:

in response to CroKev:

The only way the SEC doesn't win a NC again is if an SEC team is not in the NC game. This is a distinct possibility since OSU and a "Pac-12" or "Big-12" team may go undefeated, but the top SEC team might have 1 or 2 losses.

The Playoffs are coming. The Playoffs are coming.

Written on Quarterback Riley Ferguson's plan to be on campus thwarted:

in response to antonio14313:

or, actually, great article, good title (that probably should have been the subtitile), bad subtitle (only because it should probably be the title, therefore making it a good title). ok, enough overanalyzing! lol...

t

Time to throw in the towel antonio.:{)

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to CCLC:

Vols own the experience along the O line and starts. Not enough depth and talent at the skill positions to take advantage of it though. imho. That is a quality SEC line you have there sir.
just typin'

.....oh and Georgia is number two, fwiw. Not right next to UT but alot closer than than the Turds at number 3....;-)

I was pretty sure about the Vol line at #1 but we are, as they say in the trade, "unproven" at the skill posistions.

We're not ready to curb stomp top tier teams yet but I'm looking forward to being competitive again.....at least.

Written on Saban's scheduled Tennessee appearance causes stir:

in response to jakethevolguy:

How about it Witchy, ya think you can work up some ju ju for this event?

Saban's like the "tar baby". Not even the WITCH_DOCTOR would take that chance.

Written on Saban's scheduled Tennessee appearance causes stir:

in response to tomatosoup:

Man…can’t Saban just leave us alone? I admit hands-down that he is one heck of a coach/recruiter/etc….but seriously, is he trying to start trouble? Anyway, he just may regret any negative comments he says about UT. Gooooo Vooooools!!!

I can assure you he will make zero negative comments about UT.

Written on Alabama fan freed in Auburn tree poisoning case:

in response to lemme_axya_this:

I wonder what happened to him in jail to make him crave a banana.

dry cereal.

Written on Alabama fan freed in Auburn tree poisoning case:

in response to antonio14313:

i'm no law man, but a 7pm curfrew for a 5 year probation sounds a little obsessive. but, then again, what do i know? i'm a math guy.

t

Me neither, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once and it does sound harsh.

I would imagine if Harvey had it to do over.............he'd probably do it again.

Written on With 15 commitments, Vols are halfway home in 2014 recruiting race:

in response to Biggie:

Is there an article here? I saw the headline and expected some news!

Depends on your perspective. In today's world that likely qualifies as an article.

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to johnlg00:

Who is to say what anybody else's "all" IS? What he did, how much or how little, to what effect...well, obviously it didn't add up the right way to give him the right or ability to stay. I'm pretty sure he didn't SET OUT to destroy UT football. The ultimate negative results are plain enough to see, but I don't think those are what he was AIMING at. Why wouldn't he WANT to revive UT football? He may not have realized how hard it would be or how much some of his own characteristics might hold him back, but I think he thought he could help and tried the best he knew to do so.

It takes a special (and rare) skillset to be a successful FBS coach. Dooley doesn't have it and never will. I'm not saying he can't make it as a coordinator or posistion coach but that's his limit.

Certainly he didn't "SET OUT" to destroy UT football. For whatever reason he decided that attending HS football games and encouraging his staff to do same wasn't important. As I said to BB earlier, relationships are critical in any profession and Dooley had no clue in building and sustaining them.

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to CCLC:

Murrayvol?!.....and here I thought you knew me? ;-)
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/inde...

What O line has a line with the most starts in the SEC?????????? 2nd Most???? 3rd most and they are not close to numbers one and two. Of the three one will win the SEC.
;-) [PhilSteele.com]

Thanks! BTW you've got way too much time on your hands.

Don't know about the O lines but hoping you'll bring me up to speed.

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

What makes you say that?? I agree after seeing how hard CBJ's & Co work the recruiting trail, it's difficult to believe Dooley was as invested. I guess you can definitely point to poor leadership by Hamilton for not finding an adequate replacement for Fulmer. IMO, Dooley was in over his head as far as building a coaching staff/program, had he been able to simply manage personnel (coaches' already in place etc) he probably would have done fine. That's the reason he seemed so lost when things went awry. The same goes for Kiffin, he's not a great fb coach, he's a decent manager of personnel, nothing more.

Good points BB. When I say he didn't "give his all", I'm referring to the fact he didn't attend a single HS football game during his 3 year tenure. If you (and by extension your staff) fail in this critical area, that's a deal breaker for me. Regardless of profession, relationships are critical and Dools didn't build any. Perhaps he thought being the scion of Vince was enough. Dunno.

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to CCLC:

I don't think Auburn changes its stripes this year.

Washington State at Auburn (-11.5)Mississippi State at Auburn (+1)

Auburn (+18) at LSU

Auburn (+24) at Texas A&M

Auburn (+3.5) at Arkansas

Auburn (+8) at Tennessee

Georgia at Auburn (+15)

Alabama at Auburn (+24)

just typin'

Be honest. Are those really the early lines or are you "just typin"?

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

in response to johnlg00:

It is so funny to me that guys like the one you replied seem to have NO CONCEPTION of what it is like to simply be a fan of the people who represent your school and your state on the national stage. None of them are or ever have been or ever will be perfect in every way. But they are OUR guys who are giving it their all. We suffer and rejoice with them. We are ALL IN. There is no way we will be embarrassed over that. Trolls are just beating the air. It's great to be a Tennessee Vol. For that matter, it's great to be a Bammer, a Gator, or--God forbid--a 'Dore, if that's what you are. Just BE somebody, don't merely exist IN ORDER to TRY to make other people miserable. Sheesh!

With all respect johnlg, I don't think Dooley gave his all.....or maybe he just didn't know how.

Written on John Adams: Knoxville a big part of Geno Auriemma legacy:

in response to johnlg00:

No question Geno gets more of the best talent on the most regular basis than any other program these days. But it can't be said that he wastes it. His coaching prowess is beyond reasonable dispute. His teams play well and hard nearly every minute of every game. Most of his ex-players seem every bit as respectful and grateful toward him as Pat's do to her. I'll grant you that some aspects of his personality are a taste I have yet to acquire, but he is one of the best there ever was between the lines. So is Pat, and she was first.

He's got a nice head of hair.

Written on Butch Jones doesn't bite on Saban bait:

Butch is going to put a lot of trolls out of work.

I'll miss them. bwahahahaha!

Written on Ex-Auburn player indicted in point-shaving scheme:

in response to jhncpps1:

Devine Intervention and Billy Ratliff...Ratliff blew up Bosworth who stepped back on Stoerner's foot...then Ratliff fell on the ball.

For the record it was Burlsworth (Brandon). He died in a car accident a few months after the 98 season ended.

Written on Ex-Auburn player indicted in point-shaving scheme:

in response to utvols420:

Makes you wonder how much this stuff happens. That Arkansas Stoerner play still seems a little suspicious to me.

I doubt this type activity is pervasive in college sports but it only takes a few to push a lot of money into nefarious hands.

The Stoerner play was a simple case of divine intervention coupled with some serious effort by Billy Ratliff.

Written on Jeronne Maymon: 'I should be 100 percent by the end of July':

in response to NowHearThis:

A dude that big NEVER returns 100% after a knee injury. Plus, as much as he has been hyped, he would need to be Lebron James II to live up to Vols fans expectations.

Not really. I'll settle for him being sound enough to take the pressure off Stokes in the low block.

Written on Texas A&M gets commitment from No. 1 QB Kyle Allen:

in response to cheetah-vol:

I was thinking the same thing. Can't see Johnny Football going pro after next season, but who knows? Obviously the kid is not in a hurry to crack the starting lineup.

I can't see Manziel going pro until the end of his junior season (and heaven knows where he'll project in the NFL draft) so Kyle may be carrying that clipboard for awhile.

But then again Kyle might be one of those special players who makes noise from the getgo. We'll see.

Written on John Adams: Reasons for football, men's basketball, baseball teams to be optimistic :

in response to Navaloranges:

He's easy to see through. Just a know-it-all BLOWHARD that's used up all his so-called "friends" (who never cared for him anyway) in the real world, so he now spends every waking moment trying to make Vol fans as miserable as he is by TROLLING our fansite. Nobodies like him have always been losers, and always will be.

Gotta give the guy credit Naval. Takes a lot of time and energy to do this gig. Probably doesn't sleep much.

Written on John Adams: Reasons for football, men's basketball, baseball teams to be optimistic :

Now that's two very uplifting posts to kick off the thread. Thanks fellas!

The Vols will indeed return to the top of the SEC heap and John Adams will be there to witness the events. And it will be sooner than many think. GBO

Written on Dave Hart pleased with progress of men's basketball:

in response to SevenT:

It is time to bring out the upper deck curtains and close off TB because this team is going downhill fast.

It's also time to clean the KNS latrines so get to it.

Written on Bill Battle knows how much UT-Alabama rivalry matters:

Little did Bill realize that getting the gate at Tennessee would make him a billionaire. Good job coach.

And just for the record the "rivalry" will be infinitely better when we're competitive. It's coming....and soon. GBO

Written on Bill Battle knows how much UT-Alabama rivalry matters:

in response to SevenT:

It is not a rivalry, nor has it been a rivalry for a very long time. Tennessee simply does not belong on the same field with Alabama, UT is not in the same class.

Auburn has a new rival, LSU plus Auburn that has the players to play with them.

Just Sayin

Just shuttin up would be better.

Just sayin

Written on Lady Vols knock off No. 2 seed Florida; Washington next:

I thought the LVs had a good chance to win....but not like this. Sweet! GBO

Written on Lady Vols knock off No. 2 seed Florida; Washington next:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

Great win and the silencing of the gator trolls, just as I predicted..GBO!!

Keep this up and you can quit your day job. Maybe not.

Written on Josh Dobb's calls now will be with Tennessee Vols:

As someone said earlier this kid has some of the intangibles you're looking for in a qb. Let's hope he has a few tangibles as well.

Written on Josh Dobb's calls now will be with Tennessee Vols:

in response to EastTnVols962:

Via rivals.com UT now has the #1 recruiting class in the nation for 2014!!!! I said it's great, to be, a Tennessee VOL!!!!!!!!!

That's great news but we're a long way from the first Wednesday in Feb. GBO

Written on Point guard Antonio Barton commits to Tennessee:

Barton may not be a "great" point guard but he'll be better than anybody else we can turn to by a long shot. Glad to have him on board.

Written on Point guard Antonio Barton commits to Tennessee:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor say the suck up approach wont work as everyone knows youre a fake.
Witch Doctor say instead of "Original" try "loser" in front of username...geez
Bones never lie.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery....though it can be irritating as hell.

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