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in response to PeytonWM18: Do you really need an answer to this question? Peyton won more games than any other UT quarterback, and his senior year he and his teammates won the SEC title and would have had a shot at the national title against Nebraska if an idiot wide receiver had not dropped a perfect TD ball, in which Peyton had to chase down the defender and in doing so injured his knee, in the SECCG. Peyton did everything a QB can do on the road his sophomore year against Florida. He had the team up big at the half in Gainsville, but a current "legendary" UT coach, Jay Graham, fumbled "twice" in the third quarter to give the Gators the momentum and a path to victory. That loss had nothing to do with Peyton's play. In fact, if you look at the Gator record books, Peyton has more yards and TDs against the Gators than any other QB in college football history, but all three loses (he did not start against Florida his freshman year, contrary to popular belief) are totally hung on the shoulders of Mr. Manning. I just don't get it. Talk to any knowledgeable college or pro player and/or coach, and he will tell you what Peyton Manning has done. He's only changed the game forever. If you claim to be a Vol fan, there's no way you should ever say one bad word about Peyton. He's done more for UT Knoxville than any former player (including Fulmer and Majors) in our school's history. Peyton never fails to tout UT when he can, including last weekend during the NFL Pro Bowl, when he mentioned that Tennesse had SIX players in the game. No one loves UTK more than Peyton. Go Vols!
in response to PeytonWM18:
Do you really need an answer to this question? Peyton won more games than any other UT quarterback, and his senior year he and his teammates won the SEC title and would have had a shot at the national title against Nebraska if an idiot wide receiver had not dropped a perfect TD ball, in which Peyton had to chase down the defender and in doing so injured his knee, in the SECCG.
Peyton did everything a QB can do on the road his sophomore year against Florida. He had the team up big at the half in Gainsville, but a current "legendary" UT coach, Jay Graham, fumbled "twice" in the third quarter to give the Gators the momentum and a path to victory. That loss had nothing to do with Peyton's play.
In fact, if you look at the Gator record books, Peyton has more yards and TDs against the Gators than any other QB in college football history, but all three loses (he did not start against Florida his freshman year, contrary to popular belief) are totally hung on the shoulders of Mr. Manning. I just don't get it.
Talk to any knowledgeable college or pro player and/or coach, and he will tell you what Peyton Manning has done. He's only changed the game forever.
If you claim to be a Vol fan, there's no way you should ever say one bad word about Peyton. He's done more for UT Knoxville than any former player (including Fulmer and Majors) in our school's history. Peyton never fails to tout UT when he can, including last weekend during the NFL Pro Bowl, when he mentioned that Tennesse had SIX players in the game. No one loves UTK more than Peyton.
Go Vols!
well said. Orange beach is obviously a moron.
in response to Vol_in_Mich: Classless comment! Moms are off limits, now if you want to call the turd a turd, feel free.
in response to Vol_in_Mich:
Classless comment! Moms are off limits, now if you want to call the turd a turd, feel free.
sorry, when it comes to Bama and Florida trolls, they are in play. If they don't like it, they can troll elsewhere.
in response to cltvol: I loathe Vandy. Always will. Nothing personal, just the name, the unis's, and the gap between what they have really accomplished and their self delusional perspective of what they think they've accomplished. They remind me of how cocky Mussolini was when Italy allegedly 'conquered' an emaciated foe in Ethiopia and within 4 years his corpse was strung upside down by partisans being pelted by rotten maters. Those who can relate to the feelings of George Cafego RIP and Joe Thompson, wherever he is, know what I'm talking about. Franklin had a lucky year and things came together with predecessor Bobby whats his name's set up of overcoming the sludge and muck of only one bowl win since Sputnick. I-40 was not a viable route to Dud statium the last time the Peabody Aristocrats had a consistently competitive answer to the UT Vols. I expect that the next time the teachers' college has a consistently competive program i-40 will be oboslete, replaced by time travel or some other way of conquering space and time not known at this point.
in response to cltvol:
I loathe Vandy. Always will. Nothing personal, just the name, the unis's, and the gap between what they have really accomplished and their self delusional perspective of what they think they've accomplished. They remind me of how cocky Mussolini was when Italy allegedly 'conquered' an emaciated foe in Ethiopia and within 4 years his corpse was strung upside down by partisans being pelted by rotten maters. Those who can relate to the feelings of George Cafego RIP and Joe Thompson, wherever he is, know what I'm talking about. Franklin had a lucky year and things came together with predecessor Bobby whats his name's set up of overcoming the sludge and muck of only one bowl win since Sputnick. I-40 was not a viable route to Dud statium the last time the Peabody Aristocrats had a consistently competitive answer to the UT Vols. I expect that the next time the teachers' college has a consistently competive program i-40 will be oboslete, replaced by time travel or some other way of conquering space and time not known at this point.
LOL. love this.....
in response to 9willbesofine: That's it losers. Ride the coattails of another team. 10-2, BCS Bowls bid and EIGHTH STRAIGHT over the ut vawls. Enjoy it. September will be here soon. Charlie Strong obviously made the right decision. Ending up with Lyle has to sting after watching that clinic The Cards put on the Gators. EIGHT:)
in response to 9willbesofine:
That's it losers. Ride the coattails of another team. 10-2, BCS Bowls bid and EIGHTH STRAIGHT over the ut vawls. Enjoy it. September will be here soon.
Charlie Strong obviously made the right decision. Ending up with Lyle has to sting after watching that clinic The Cards put on the Gators.
EIGHT:)
speaking of losers, did you actually watch that beat down or was it past your bedtime? I would rather sit out the bowl season than have my team get beat like a drum by 14 point under dogs. Thanks for embarrassing the conference, lizard-losers. Having UL start their second half drive at your 19 was sheer genius. But you were in bed by then.
in response to rtrchatt: What kind of "luck" does rocky flop need to win 6 in 2013? All kinds.......
in response to rtrchatt:
What kind of "luck" does rocky flop need to win 6 in 2013? All kinds.......
new year, still the same ole pathetic loser, eh Chatt? I got lucky with your mom last night, does that count for anything? Guess not, wasn't too difficult.
in response to OrangePride: OK.....that's it. I have been reading these message boards since CBJ was hired and I just can't stand it. These very same people who have been calling for Dooley's head and a coaching change for two years are now unhappy with a coaching change??? Are you guys kidding me??!! We have a new coach with 4 championships, but now we are critical of the competition, or the league, or the recruiting classes, or whatever? How about this....you guys stop comparing apples to oranges and just shut up for a bit and give this man a chance to put a few teams on the field. You are either a Vol fan and behind this team or you are not.......there's no middle ground here. "Oh, if they win next year I'm there, otherwise I'm on the "firebutchjones.com" site. Tennessee does not need this kind of fan...in fact no team does. Just saying....really tired of it!
in response to OrangePride:
OK.....that's it. I have been reading these message boards since CBJ was hired and I just can't stand it. These very same people who have been calling for Dooley's head and a coaching change for two years are now unhappy with a coaching change??? Are you guys kidding me??!! We have a new coach with 4 championships, but now we are critical of the competition, or the league, or the recruiting classes, or whatever? How about this....you guys stop comparing apples to oranges and just shut up for a bit and give this man a chance to put a few teams on the field. You are either a Vol fan and behind this team or you are not.......there's no middle ground here. "Oh, if they win next year I'm there, otherwise I'm on the "firebutchjones.com" site. Tennessee does not need this kind of fan...in fact no team does. Just saying....really tired of it!
+1
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yo momma
in response to TheSmokyMountainThatRides: i can't wait to boo him and hart when they are announced at the next basketball game. i know, i know. all of you hollier than thou fans will say that makes me a bad fan. when in fact most of you that will say that won't be at the next basketball game because they aren't playing well. that makes you a bad fan. i pay thousands a year to that place and while it is nothing compared to the big donors, it is a big chunk of my yearly income. so the way i see it i'm entitled to voice my anger on the hire. boo.
in response to TheSmokyMountainThatRides:
i can't wait to boo him and hart when they are announced at the next basketball game. i know, i know. all of you hollier than thou fans will say that makes me a bad fan. when in fact most of you that will say that won't be at the next basketball game because they aren't playing well. that makes you a bad fan. i pay thousands a year to that place and while it is nothing compared to the big donors, it is a big chunk of my yearly income. so the way i see it i'm entitled to voice my anger on the hire. boo.
idiot
in response to navarrebeachvol: Might I introduce you to Misters Period, Coma, Semi-colon and the CAPS LOCK button is conveniently located below your Tab key. Use them in good health.
in response to navarrebeachvol:
Might I introduce you to Misters Period, Coma, Semi-colon and the CAPS LOCK button is conveniently located below your Tab key. Use them in good health.
*comma, English majors. Some of these posts can induce a coma.
in response to utvolorange: THIS IS CRAZY WHEN IS THE UNIVERSITY GOING TO STEP IN AND FIRE DAVE HART! JIMBO FISHER,MIKE GUNDY,CHARLIE STRONG, AND DAVE HART ALL HAVE THE SAME AGENT JIMMY SEXTON!!!! EITHER STEP IN NOW OR POSSIBLY DOWN THE ROAD FACE THE NCAA IN WHAT COULD BE INFRACTIONS ON THE UNIVERSTIY FOR USING A FOOTBALL COACHING HIRING TO GET OTHER COACHES RAISES!! ARE WE THIS STUPID?? THERE IS ONLY 3 GUYS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED JOHN GRUDEN, DAVID SHAW, OR KIRBY SMART.
in response to utvolorange:
THIS IS CRAZY WHEN IS THE UNIVERSITY GOING TO STEP IN AND FIRE DAVE HART! JIMBO FISHER,MIKE GUNDY,CHARLIE STRONG, AND DAVE HART ALL HAVE THE SAME AGENT JIMMY SEXTON!!!! EITHER STEP IN NOW OR POSSIBLY DOWN THE ROAD FACE THE NCAA IN WHAT COULD BE INFRACTIONS ON THE UNIVERSTIY FOR USING A FOOTBALL COACHING HIRING TO GET OTHER COACHES RAISES!! ARE WE THIS STUPID?? THERE IS ONLY 3 GUYS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED JOHN GRUDEN, DAVID SHAW, OR KIRBY SMART.
in response to kman29: Unfortunately for fans like you, 1. Are bitter your program was rejected once again. and 2. You really don't know Charlie Strong's history. Even as a D cordinator with Florida there were many times he was offered a head coaching job. But similar to the situation he is in with Louisville he didn't leave right away because he felt a sense of loyalty toward Meyer and before that with Zook. It wasnt until after the 2008 title win that Meyer himself pushed Strong to say "go! This is your chance to take a head coaching job". This has always been the way Charlie Strong is and will continue to be. He did not go out searching for another job, UT came to him. He listened and said no. Did that cause Louisville to offer him a raise? Sure! But it's not like Strong went pretending to search for other jobs just to get a raise. But I understand being rejected again can make one bitter towards another.
in response to kman29:
Unfortunately for fans like you, 1. Are bitter your program was rejected once again. and 2. You really don't know Charlie Strong's history. Even as a D cordinator with Florida there were many times he was offered a head coaching job. But similar to the situation he is in with Louisville he didn't leave right away because he felt a sense of loyalty toward Meyer and before that with Zook. It wasnt until after the 2008 title win that Meyer himself pushed Strong to say "go! This is your chance to take a head coaching job". This has always been the way Charlie Strong is and will continue to be. He did not go out searching for another job, UT came to him. He listened and said no. Did that cause Louisville to offer him a raise? Sure! But it's not like Strong went pretending to search for other jobs just to get a raise. But I understand being rejected again can make one bitter towards another.
I am sure you have been rejected many, many times...so of course you understand
in response to smugolf08: I just got a call from Dave Hart...I had to turn him down..my loyalty remains with 7-11
in response to smugolf08:
I just got a call from Dave Hart...I had to turn him down..my loyalty remains with 7-11
You should be fired. Most of your workers are on here posting instead of manning the Slurpee machine.
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in response to GlennFordsFoible:
This is kind of unhinged...and a little creepy. The mental image I get of some old dude in a dirty wife beater and boxer shorts slamming away at a keyboard...glass of whiskey nearby...is unsettling at best.
in response to jt45: How many have we beat since he was let go ?
in response to jt45:
How many have we beat since he was let go ?
Close to zero. Hence the new coaching search, boy wonder.
in response to arkyvol: if you believe the dimwits who post, its cause he's a secret muslim, native kenyan, inarticulate without a teleprompter, affirmative action baby, and a commie/socialist who wants to take your guns away to boot. personally, i'll accept that he's a decent man who made his decision in the interest of his family and his players. he's 52 years old and this is likely his only shot at coaching in the sec and he knows it.
in response to arkyvol:
if you believe the dimwits who post, its cause he's a secret muslim, native kenyan, inarticulate without a teleprompter, affirmative action baby, and a commie/socialist who wants to take your guns away to boot.
personally, i'll accept that he's a decent man who made his decision in the interest of his family and his players. he's 52 years old and this is likely his only shot at coaching in the sec and he knows it.
good job arky; your description of Obama is spot on! Thanks for interjecting some politics on a football message board, azz_clown.
in response to auggievol: And I'm a little over John Adams. He hits on "sources" a day later, long after the fire has been put out. John Adams is my black licorice. Every year I think I love the stuff, but then I have some and I remember how much it taste like butt. Please John Adams, wait till the first game of 2013's schedule to write anything. Take the year off, go on a cruise, have a rum drink. Either way, stop writing about the coaching search.
in response to auggievol:
And I'm a little over John Adams. He hits on "sources" a day later, long after the fire has been put out. John Adams is my black licorice. Every year I think I love the stuff, but then I have some and I remember how much it taste like butt. Please John Adams, wait till the first game of 2013's schedule to write anything. Take the year off, go on a cruise, have a rum drink. Either way, stop writing about the coaching search.
this one cracked me up....
with your mother?
in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST: Remember Joe....you're dealing with ut fans here. Not the brightest bunch of football fans on the planet.
in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST:
Remember Joe....you're dealing with ut fans here. Not the brightest bunch of football fans on the planet.
Hey dude, my brother is a UGA grad and is looking for some SEC Champ tickets. You got some to give up? Ahh...who am I kidding, you couldn't scape together $125.00 a ticket. Nevermind.
in response to RememberWhen: well that's yet to be determined....what he REALLY is counting on is that they'll actually do a little better and he can claim his input was the key ingredient in the rescue....thus saving his job....lawd forbid!
in response to RememberWhen:
well that's yet to be determined....what he REALLY is counting on is that they'll actually do a little better and he can claim his input was the key ingredient in the rescue....thus saving his job....lawd forbid!
Remember when you could see your shoes and not just your big gut?
in response to DeltaCharlie3: But what does Dooley know about coaching defense, and if he does know anything, why has he waited so long to bestow his knowledge on his football team? And what is he doing with the offense, hitching his wagon to the only semi-competent piece of the team? Seems like a cop-out to me. "oh, I've been focused on offense, which is why the offense is s good, now I think I'll ease on down to the defense so i can drop some knowledge on them, since their sorta struggling and all." Does anyone buy this?
in response to DeltaCharlie3:
But what does Dooley know about coaching defense, and if he does know anything, why has he waited so long to bestow his knowledge on his football team?
And what is he doing with the offense, hitching his wagon to the only semi-competent piece of the team?
Seems like a cop-out to me. "oh, I've been focused on offense, which is why the offense is s good, now I think I'll ease on down to the defense so i can drop some knowledge on them, since their sorta struggling and all."
Does anyone buy this?
I'm buying: Gators have gone over 100 years of football without an undefeated season. UGA to SEC Championship--better than a bunch of jort wearing goop gobblers.
wow....just in time.
in response to Vol_in_Mich: This place is better than the Jerry Springer show. GBO - Wait Till Next Year
This place is better than the Jerry Springer show.
GBO - Wait Till Next Year
Home of the un-hinged.
in response to RememberWhen: well all that simply makes you an irrational moron - not a better TN fan that anybody else. and just so we're clear - I don't give a rat's arse what you think of how I come across.
well all that simply makes you an irrational moron - not a better TN fan that anybody else. and just so we're clear - I don't give a rat's arse what you think of how I come across.
It makes me an irrational moron because I love UT? Really? ok then. I never said I was better fan than anyone else. Your reading comprehension indicates that you are in fact, the moron. An obnoxious moron at that. Relax silly boy, you're going to give yourself an aneurysm. Which I don't think would be any great loss to society.
in response to RememberWhen: Really? $9.3 million reasons to keep him??? Remind me not to let you handle my money! The fact is that $9.3 million equates to about 9 more games of 20,000 empty seats that would otherwise be filled if your favorite coach isn't there. So, you blew that argument. As for the rest of your nonsense, one does not have to wear orange every day, fly those goofy car flags, or yell "Go Vols" in their sleep in order to be a TN fan or support the team. Just for the record, I'm a TN grad and have been a TN supporter for 40 years so you really need to preach somebody that cares - preferrably AFTER you get an ounce of intelligence in that small brain of yours. In the meantime, I'll be more than happy to compare the level of support each of us has given to this school and team....I'm certain that won't be speculation!
Really? $9.3 million reasons to keep him??? Remind me not to let you handle my money! The fact is that $9.3 million equates to about 9 more games of 20,000 empty seats that would otherwise be filled if your favorite coach isn't there. So, you blew that argument. As for the rest of your nonsense, one does not have to wear orange every day, fly those goofy car flags, or yell "Go Vols" in their sleep in order to be a TN fan or support the team. Just for the record, I'm a TN grad and have been a TN supporter for 40 years so you really need to preach somebody that cares - preferrably AFTER you get an ounce of intelligence in that small brain of yours. In the meantime, I'll be more than happy to compare the level of support each of us has given to this school and team....I'm certain that won't be speculation!
dude, anybody ever tell you that you come across as a complete azzz? Lighten up, Francis. I like goofy car flags, people who wear orange and I occationally yell "Go Vols" in my sleep during Bama week.
in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST: The stadium is too big. ut should have known they would seldom be relevant and would not fill that erector set on a regular basis. Another "uh-oh" in the comedy of errors by the ut football team/athletic dept. Go vawls! EIGHT
The stadium is too big. ut should have known they would seldom be relevant and would not fill that erector set on a regular basis. Another "uh-oh" in the comedy of errors by the ut football team/athletic dept. Go vawls!
EIGHT
I would think you would be busy trying to remove those under-Dawg teeth from your Gator backside. Over 100 years of football and still no undefeated season. So sad and pathetic.
Have 4 tickets I can't use. Half price.
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in response to VolsMan4Life:
i could live with that....
in response to H_I_McDonough: From where Old H.I. sits, It goes like this.. Bray starts of course, and is assaulted by SC defense, forcing 2 picks and putting Bray on the turf several times. Knocked around, Bray manages to completes 6/14 for 59 yds. Not good, but not entirely his fault. Down 17-6 half. Surprisingly still in the game. Enter Worley 2nd half. Sparse UT crowd cheers. SC promptly resumes its assault on our backfield, coming at Worley like a, well, like a mid-season 2nd string Tennessee QB! Leaving in an extra TE or FB cant seem to stop them, and oh yes, they find him. Even with time, the WRs are only giving about 75% for him. Worley hits the ground more than he hits his receivers. White jersey covered in green & brown.Worley's 2nd half : 9/25, 3 more pics and a lost fumble. Not entirely his fault. Final USC-37-13. OK, some "big picture." Whose fault is it? As bad as Bray has been lately, the OL has greatly improved, and we've even climbed to the top 3 in the SEC in rushing. Miracle from 3 yrs ago. We should be lighting our torches & pitchforks and charging directly at Sal Sunseri! This NOBODY spent a year al a LB coach at Bama so that qualifies him to coordinate a Tennessee defense? Our defense, as of this week, is ranked over 100 in yards allowed and passing yards. And we're WAY back in the pack against the run . SeriouslySal! Is it a 3-4, or 4-3 this week? Did you tell the players? Did you teach the differences? Florida barely needed to pass to run right by your lineman, easily-sealed LB's and forget the secondary, they're slow and scared! Other SEC Opponents have taken the less tiring route. A simple 2-step drop and then just pick and choose which receiver needs the yards. UT defenders may have one receiver covered (by 3 confused men). Both methods have the same result: YOUR DEFENSE gives up around 50 points a game. Thanks for instilling that killer mentality, Mr. "I coached at Bama" a**hole. YOU, SIR, ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE FOOTBALL SYSTEM. Prepare your resume, and do NOT expect a reference.-------------------------------- Thanks everyone for allowing me to vent. Sometimes I have a thing or 2 to say! Replies are encouraged. H.I. McDonough will now step down from the orange soapbox he's used for 42 years.God Bless and, AS ALWAYS, Go Vols!
in response to H_I_McDonough:
From where Old H.I. sits, It goes like this..
Bray starts of course, and is assaulted by SC defense, forcing 2 picks and putting Bray on the turf several times. Knocked around, Bray manages to completes 6/14 for 59 yds. Not good, but not entirely his fault. Down 17-6 half. Surprisingly still in the game.
Enter Worley 2nd half. Sparse UT crowd cheers.
SC promptly resumes its assault on our backfield, coming at Worley like a, well, like a mid-season 2nd string Tennessee QB! Leaving in an extra TE or FB cant seem to stop them, and oh yes, they find him. Even with time, the WRs are only giving about 75% for him. Worley hits the ground more than he hits his receivers. White jersey covered in green & brown.Worley's 2nd half : 9/25, 3 more pics and a lost fumble. Not entirely his fault. Final USC-37-13. OK, some "big picture." Whose fault is it?
As bad as Bray has been lately, the OL has greatly improved, and we've even climbed to the top 3 in the SEC in rushing. Miracle from 3 yrs ago. We should be lighting our torches & pitchforks and charging directly at Sal Sunseri! This NOBODY spent a year al a LB coach at Bama so that qualifies him to coordinate a Tennessee defense? Our defense, as of this week, is ranked over 100 in yards allowed and passing yards. And we're WAY back in the pack against the run .
SeriouslySal! Is it a 3-4, or 4-3 this week? Did you tell the players? Did you teach the differences? Florida barely needed to pass to run right by your lineman, easily-sealed LB's and forget the secondary, they're slow and scared! Other SEC Opponents have taken the less tiring route. A simple 2-step drop and then just pick and choose which receiver needs the yards. UT defenders may have one receiver covered (by 3 confused men). Both methods have the same result: YOUR DEFENSE gives up around 50 points a game.
Thanks for instilling that killer mentality, Mr. "I coached at Bama" a**hole.
YOU, SIR, ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE FOOTBALL SYSTEM.
Prepare your resume, and do NOT expect a reference.-------------------------------- Thanks everyone for allowing me to vent. Sometimes I have a thing or 2 to say! Replies are encouraged.
H.I. McDonough will now step down from the orange soapbox he's used for 42 years.God Bless and, AS ALWAYS, Go Vols!
Actually read all of this and enjoyed it. Agree on the D. Also killing me is the 3rd and short launches down field…bad time outs, too many players on the field, general clock management, false starts, taking a knee before halftime last week, etc, etc. That is coaching, not a lack of talent. I talked to an MSU grad yesterday for quite a bit. Two things—he was shocked at how few Vol fans were at the game. And the talent level between UT and MSU is pretty much the same.
in response to Volborn: Well, I was with you until the last couple of weeks. I supported Dooley until the first half was winding down against Bama. Is the program in better shape than when he got here? Yes. Has the team improved? Yes, offensively, but the defense is horrid. I have seen all of the botched time outs, too many players on the field, not enough players on the field, and on and on. Throwing bombs on 3rd and 1..in a year when we are noticably better running the ball. Now these rumors about what a jerk Dooley is to the people that work around him are resurfacing. I've seen enough. It is similar in my mind to Buzz Peterson. I supported Buzz until late in the season when we were playing Ole Miss late in his final year. We had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win. Then he runs a play to get Dane Bradshaw the final shot! Now, I am a Bradshaw fan, but the guy shoots <50% from the line, and Peterson gets him(a freshman)the last shot from 15 feet? I was done. When we did not use the timeouts at the end of the first half to try to score going into the half....knowing Alabama got the ball in the second half, I was done with Dooley. He cannot handle the SEC yet. He may need another 5 years of learning on the job somewhere else. But we can't take anymore. GBO
in response to Volborn:
Well, I was with you until the last couple of weeks. I supported Dooley until the first half was winding down against Bama. Is the program in better shape than when he got here? Yes. Has the team improved? Yes, offensively, but the defense is horrid. I have seen all of the botched time outs, too many players on the field, not enough players on the field, and on and on. Throwing bombs on 3rd and 1..in a year when we are noticably better running the ball. Now these rumors about what a jerk Dooley is to the people that work around him are resurfacing. I've seen enough.
It is similar in my mind to Buzz Peterson. I supported Buzz until late in the season when we were playing Ole Miss late in his final year. We had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win. Then he runs a play to get Dane Bradshaw the final shot! Now, I am a Bradshaw fan, but the guy shoots <50% from the line, and Peterson gets him(a freshman)the last shot from 15 feet? I was done.
When we did not use the timeouts at the end of the first half to try to score going into the half....knowing Alabama got the ball in the second half, I was done with Dooley. He cannot handle the SEC yet. He may need another 5 years of learning on the job somewhere else. But we can't take anymore.
GBO
+1. I’ve driven up from Florida for the Gator game, Georgia (treated very nice in Athens) and Bama. I’ve supported the coaches, but I can’t take it anymore. I’m debating now on making the drive up for Missouri at this point. I have 8 tickets available. I’ve been on this site since around 2007/8 and have never bashed a player or coach. But Bray’s attitude is over the top. I stood by Fulmer until I saw his players yucking it up on the sideline while getting their butts handed to them by Maryland like 31-3 in the Ga Dome. When they stop caring whether they lose or not, I can’t support them. I couldn’t see it from the stratosphere of NN among the 10,000 or so Alabama fans around me; but I have heard the players were laughing on the sideline while getting crushed by our oldest rival. I’m not joining the adolescents of Walt the Clown, Flowers the Incessant Loser, et al with the silly name calling; but unless I see immediate improvement, I am done with this staff. And sadly, I don’t think I will see it. Hopefully they can pull off the upset; but I have a feeling it’s going to Baseball Bats Vs. Baby Seals this Saturday and Spurrier won’t let up if he has a chance to kick UT. If Bray underperforms, cops an(other) attitude and doesn’t get pulled; that will be the death nail for Coach Dooley—huge buy out or not.
The current Vol QB could take some lessons from the Great One on film study and progessions....
Might I suggest a possible short throw over the middle to a very good tight end when facing 3rd and one/short...Instead of launching a fade pass down the sideline everytime??? Not sure anything would have changed the Bama outcome, but with MSU we did the same thing...3rd and short, launch it. The long ball is sexy, but first downs keep a suspect defense off the field. signed, Captain Obvious
in response to usafvol: Some folks would sale their soul for a winning season. They really need to get a life..
in response to usafvol:
Some folks would sale their soul for a winning season. They really need to get a life..
Very true. 29 years of USAF here, my brother.
in response to MGVOL22: Why are there a lot of people saying Petrino?? Seriously you would want that? Just curious to what others think.... Do you want Petrino to be the Head Coach of Tennessee?? Me personally, being a Vol letterman/alumni ... I would say HECK NO, the guy has no class....That is not who I want to represent my school / program. Sure, he wins games, but don't we want to stand for more? Again, I am interested in hearing feedback....And I have said it 100x...if there is a change, my vote is 100% Charlie Strong!!
in response to MGVOL22:
Why are there a lot of people saying Petrino?? Seriously you would want that? Just curious to what others think.... Do you want Petrino to be the Head Coach of Tennessee??
Me personally, being a Vol letterman/alumni ... I would say HECK NO, the guy has no class....That is not who I want to represent my school / program. Sure, he wins games, but don't we want to stand for more? Again, I am interested in hearing feedback....And I have said it 100x...if there is a change, my vote is 100% Charlie Strong!!
agreed. Not sure on Charlie, but do NOT want Petrino. Alum, class of 83
in response to cdamna1: 1. Hart needs to say something, either way to stabilize the ship.2. WRs (JH,CP) have the dropsies and haven't helped.3. Bray needs to grow up and not pout regardless of outcomes.4. The 3-4 (and Sunseri) was a mistake given Dooley's timeline.5. OL and RBs have improved.6. WRs and QB have digressed.7. Z Rod and Rivera have been underutilized.8. We don't have atheletes on defense, period.9. The atheletic dept is broke.10. First half of the schedule was brutal.11. Chaney's play-calling is suspect.12. Dooley's probably in over his head, but who wouldn't be?13. Can't fire him if you don't have the $$.14. It's a top-down problem, but the guys at the top that started it are all gone, so whatcha gonna do? Man up (from Hart down to the players), tough it out, and hope things turn around in the second half of the season.
in response to cdamna1:
1. Hart needs to say something, either way to stabilize the ship.2. WRs (JH,CP) have the dropsies and haven't helped.3. Bray needs to grow up and not pout regardless of outcomes.4. The 3-4 (and Sunseri) was a mistake given Dooley's timeline.5. OL and RBs have improved.6. WRs and QB have digressed.7. Z Rod and Rivera have been underutilized.8. We don't have atheletes on defense, period.9. The atheletic dept is broke.10. First half of the schedule was brutal.11. Chaney's play-calling is suspect.12. Dooley's probably in over his head, but who wouldn't be?13. Can't fire him if you don't have the $$.14. It's a top-down problem, but the guys at the top that started it are all gone, so whatcha gonna do? Man up (from Hart down to the players), tough it out, and hope things turn around in the second half of the season.
wow. well stated.
in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST: Just an average receiver from a less than average football team. EIGHT
Just an average receiver from a less than average football team.
just a below average loser...still looking for a life, eh?
in response to stevefrommemphis: Off topic, for which I apologize, but can anyone tell me if the fans in the Bama section were booing loudly when Fulmer was introduced pregame? It sounded to me like the ones in the section GG, HH, II, JJ area were booing, but it was so loud where I was that I was having trouble telling for certain.
in response to stevefrommemphis:
Off topic, for which I apologize, but can anyone tell me if the fans in the Bama section were booing loudly when Fulmer was introduced pregame? It sounded to me like the ones in the section GG, HH, II, JJ area were booing, but it was so loud where I was that I was having trouble telling for certain.
yes, they were indeed. In NN and beyond. Nobody likes to be caught cheating, especially Bammers.
in response to ambrown64: Coach says (Quoted): We can't just stick our heads in our tails and go home. Quick note: I think the expression is "we can't tuck our tail between our legs" as opposed to "stick our heads in our tails." What needs to happen is that the guys pull their heads out of their tails. It is possible, because there is some talent and we've seen flashes. Bray is probably over-thinking the game (and I don't blame him - he showed up as a natural-born killer, and we've tried to turn him into something he's not. A good coach would let Bray be Bray, and just take away a little bit of the risk/down-side). Also, his brooding, woe is me attitude reminds me of someone, and that someone is supposed to be setting the tone. I despise a sadsack mentality. I'm not attacking or being ugly -- I hope the guys get a win this week, because I don't want these seniors to leave without a signature win. They've had a rough time of it, at least give them, as Nacho Libre would say, a taste of the glory. Now, it is year 3 for this regime, and pro or con, stay or go, I hope that Derek will own this state of affairs, and not see it as a hard luck circumstance. While he has no hand in te cupboard being bare, the lack of execution is all on him. The type of breakdowns we have shouldn't be happening. It is not that we are losing these games...its that we get very spotty performance from our ball players. If we lplayed well, were consistent and prepared and appeared to be a team schooled in the maxims, I would say that Tennesse should deal with the losses and play a few more hands with Dooley. It is hard to believe in that, though because we really should be getting more out of the talent we have.
in response to ambrown64:
Coach says (Quoted): We can't just stick our heads in our tails and go home.
Quick note: I think the expression is "we can't tuck our tail between our legs" as opposed to "stick our heads in our tails."
What needs to happen is that the guys pull their heads out of their tails. It is possible, because there is some talent and we've seen flashes. Bray is probably over-thinking the game (and I don't blame him - he showed up as a natural-born killer, and we've tried to turn him into something he's not. A good coach would let Bray be Bray, and just take away a little bit of the risk/down-side). Also, his brooding, woe is me attitude reminds me of someone, and that someone is supposed to be setting the tone. I despise a sadsack mentality.
I'm not attacking or being ugly -- I hope the guys get a win this week, because I don't want these seniors to leave without a signature win. They've had a rough time of it, at least give them, as Nacho Libre would say, a taste of the glory.
Now, it is year 3 for this regime, and pro or con, stay or go, I hope that Derek will own this state of affairs, and not see it as a hard luck circumstance. While he has no hand in te cupboard being bare, the lack of execution is all on him. The type of breakdowns we have shouldn't be happening. It is not that we are losing these games...its that we get very spotty performance from our ball players. If we lplayed well, were consistent and prepared and appeared to be a team schooled in the maxims, I would say that Tennesse should deal with the losses and play a few more hands with Dooley.
It is hard to believe in that, though because we really should be getting more out of the talent we have.
Agreed.
in response to RockySwamp: Can someone please explain the strategy behind throwing 20-30 yards downfield on 3rd and short (several times in the last two games), but throwing for five yards on 3rd and long?
in response to RockySwamp:
Can someone please explain the strategy behind throwing 20-30 yards downfield on 3rd and short (several times in the last two games), but throwing for five yards on 3rd and long?
it's what you do when you want to get fired I suppose.
He certainly inherited a mess. He’s had 3 years to bring in his own team and clean it up. At least show some solid progress. We can’t handle another 4 years of mediocrity to sub-mediocrity. He needs to be fired. We need to change course. Bring in a proven commodity. Someone with a track record of getting things done and success on the field. We’re talking about Obama and Romney, correct?
in response to 15_counting: Saban wins again! A little raise (6mil a year), and more free advertisement at the expense of Haslam.
in response to 15_counting:
Saban wins again! A little raise (6mil a year), and more free advertisement at the expense of Haslam.
still trying to figure out the 14 counting. number of Auburn fans visiting your old lady over the past year while you've been out of town?
in response to gglardon50#417841: Wanted by Alabama fan. 500 tickets for Sat game. Will pay up to $5 per ticket.
in response to gglardon50#417841:
Wanted by Alabama fan. 500 tickets for Sat game. Will pay up to $5 per ticket.
Stay up all night thinking of that one? No way there are 500 Alabama fans who could scratch together $5.00 for a ticket and the gas to Knoxville. Nice try. I'm actually scared about a Tennessee upset. One of you mullet-heads may try to poison Smokey....or at least try to t-bag him. Bama fans-the class of the SEC.
in response to kcbigorngX: Never will forget the fall of '82 cause I spent part of it in the hellhole called Beirut. My buddy's mom from Lake Norris sent us the paper with the headlines. Thank you Rosetta Viles.
in response to kcbigorngX:
Never will forget the fall of '82 cause I spent part of it in the hellhole called Beirut.
My buddy's mom from Lake Norris sent us the paper with the headlines. Thank you Rosetta Viles.
Thanks for your service. A friend of mine whom I played high school football with was killed by mortar fire two days before the barracks was blown up. What a waste. Lance Corporal Mark Perkins, USMC, RIP
in response to rtrchatt: Great post pcs and 100% accurate. I have the over/under at 25k Bama nation in attendance Satnight? No one travels like the red elephants lol... I just want Vinnie to have a pick 6 and get out of the game w/o any more serious injuries. Roll Tide
Great post pcs and 100% accurate. I have the over/under at 25k Bama nation in attendance Satnight? No one travels like the red elephants lol... I just want Vinnie to have a pick 6 and get out of the game w/o any more serious injuries. Roll Tide
What’s the over/under on mullets? 12,500?….thinking 15,000 as some of your fat chicks sport them as well. BTW, you Bama fans come up with some classy screen names. What I would expect from juvenile Bama trolls.
in response to illinoisvolfan: That already happened. That's how Gators were created.
in response to illinoisvolfan:
That already happened. That's how Gators were created.
nicely played :-)
in response to 15_counting: Actually, feeling how upset you are is what makes it so good! Haven't missed a game this year (including Michigan in Dallas). Will not make the game this weekend. My daugher-in-law will be induced at 5am tomorrow with the birth of my first grandson. And yes! It will be 15 very soon!
Actually, feeling how upset you are is what makes it so good!
Haven't missed a game this year (including Michigan in Dallas). Will not make the game this weekend. My daugher-in-law will be induced at 5am tomorrow with the birth of my first grandson.
And yes! It will be 15 very soon!
believe me, arse-clowns like yourself do not upset me. I feel kind of sorry for you. a grandfather making juvenile comments all day long on a Tennessee forum?? Wow. PS: the 14 and counting until you are 15 referred to your mentality, not mythical championships. moron. Congrats are in order. Let us know if the baby comes out with a mullet.
in response to 15_counting: Your always preaching "don't take the troll bait" and you the first one on the hook every time! If Bray can't handle a little "tweet pressure" he's in trouble Saturday night with Bama's defense! It's time this kid grew up a little bit! Guess he's too far from mamma's udder!
Your always preaching "don't take the troll bait" and you the first one on the hook every time!
If Bray can't handle a little "tweet pressure" he's in trouble Saturday night with Bama's defense!
It's time this kid grew up a little bit! Guess he's too far from mamma's udder!
you have me mixed up with someone else. Doesn't surprise me, you do not seem particularly bright. I suppose you on the other hand, are still at home suckling on your mamma's teat while she brushes your mullet.
in response to pms151: I woke up this morning thinking of that 82 game. I remember being in HH that day with some of my best friends at UT ROTC. We really rocked that day and we can do it again Sat!
in response to pms151:
I woke up this morning thinking of that 82 game. I remember being in HH that day with some of my best friends at UT ROTC. We really rocked that day and we can do it again Sat!
I was there. Vols 35, #2 Bama 28. Bear's last trip to Neyland. Rocking good time indeed.
in response to 15_counting: Alabama football: Darrington Sentimore, Keiwone Malone suspended indefinitely; Robby Green dismissed! Enough said loser! More disappointment headed your way this weekend!
Alabama football: Darrington Sentimore, Keiwone Malone suspended indefinitely; Robby Green dismissed!
Enough said loser! More disappointment headed your way this weekend!
Actually, the definition of a loser is someone who has nothing better to do than post on a rival’s website 24/7. Have no job? Have no wife? Have no children? No worries, come on over to govols.com and make yourself feel good. Pathetic. Thankfully, the majority of Bama fans I know have a lot more class than the pathetic sidewalk Bama fans who show up here EVERY day. We know you didn’t graduate from Bama, have you ever actually attended a game? Can you afford to attend a game? 14 and counting until you are 15?
in response to 15_counting: “I was just frustrated at the time. It’s been two weeks in a row that we could have won, and it’s frustrating.” Well maybe knowing up front this week that you don't have a chance will make it a little easier!
“I was just frustrated at the time. It’s been two weeks in a row that we could have won, and it’s frustrating.”
Well maybe knowing up front this week that you don't have a chance will make it a little easier!
don't you have a mullet to comb? get a life. get a job.
in response to pcorange: Alright, I have to wave the BS flag here. Mediocrity did not reign all those years. Do you not know about Robert Neyland? The program has 6 national championships, 2 of them undisputed. Only one of those has been since 1992. Tennessee had some very good teams in the late 60s and early 70s and was pretty decent in several of Majors' years as coach. I like CPF, but to act like he's the only coach who has ever had success here is to be ignorant of the facts.
in response to pcorange:
Alright, I have to wave the BS flag here. Mediocrity did not reign all those years. Do you not know about Robert Neyland? The program has 6 national championships, 2 of them undisputed. Only one of those has been since 1992. Tennessee had some very good teams in the late 60s and early 70s and was pretty decent in several of Majors' years as coach. I like CPF, but to act like he's the only coach who has ever had success here is to be ignorant of the facts.
Volzfan is a Gator fan. he's been posting this same cr_p for days.
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