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My bad, fellas'. I unintentionally responded to a slimy gator troll (8inahole). I've had my horse ranch in SC for 11 years and have never trolled the game chickens' site. In fact, Columbia's paper....The State....doesn't allow such trash on their athletic sites, which is a similar practice with most the other college sites in the SEC. KNS: Why don't you clean up your act and eliminate those repeat defenders? More than anyone....you know who they are. Muschamp won't last, losing key FU recruits to FSU and Miami, et al. He's slightly just a notch above Dooley. Spurrier's losing his grip and won't last much longer, either (too old....been [am] there), and the dawgs are headed for a slump. Seriously. SEC east prominence for the up-and-coming Vols is clearly approaching and very soon Atlanta will be seeing Orange at season's end. The western side will beat itself up beforehand. GBO! BTW. Good article JA. Keep it up.
in response to 8inarow: Going on 8 years now reading how the "Vols are on the rise". Better hurry up.
in response to 8inarow:
Going on 8 years now reading how the "Vols are on the rise". Better hurry up.
Clever, there, little puppy, with the 8-in-a-row moniker mirroring your negative octet. Apparently you're too young to have experienced enough of life to know 8 years is a short history. No doubt your impatience spills out into road rage and silly little girl tantrums. Maybe in a few decades you'll figure out that programs such as Tennessee's........and there are a dozen-or-so out there........possess too much prominence and fiscal backing to remain in any state of doldrums for too long. Too much money simply demands....and gets....better. Quit getting your 8 year old panties in a wad.
Saban wins due to his having the whole system in sync on a consistent basis,his players seem motivated, he's got a seriously devoted fan base and no other school can approach their level of talent.......for now. I agree that his vacating the HC job in Tuscaloosa would detonate an enormously negative paradigm shift for the tide. In Gainsville, Muschamp appears to be boneheaded in various respects; a lot of them, but the gators enjoy the richest talent garden this side of LA. The jury's out on that guy. Spurrier won't last but a couple more years and his amplified level of grouchiness is showing in his recruiting classes. Without Clowney they'd be pretty average and their season seems dependent on his health. I think the chickens peaked around 2011......downhill hereon. Franklin's headed some place special and prudently shouldn't stay in Nashville........that is if Vandy can pull off another season like the last one. They'd better enjoy their W's while they can. Kentucky and Missouri appear to be perennial cellar dwellers....UK a bit lower....and don't let the cat's recent recruiting successes fool ya'. Considering A&M's strong-appearing setup, They seem to have a lot going for them in the next few seasons. 'Strong looking program through-and-through. LSU's annually reloaded talent, along with Auburn's and Ole Miss's recently strong recruiting classes are going to make the SECW the toughest anywhere. UGA's strong as long as Richt stays around, but their recruiting harvests are being plucked more and more by a half-dozen of us other SEC schools. Who am I kidding, though? They're a rich, traditionally powerful program, so they'll normally be in contention. Arkansas seems to have righted their ship, but the middle of the SECW seems to be their spot, along with MSU, in spite of their improvements. They'd be better off in another conference. As for our Vols: CBJ has hit the ground running with an exclamation point showcased by the assembly of a staff who're immediately on the same page on multiple levels and strong as recruiters, made obvious due to an already remarkable group of commitments for 2014. I think I'm with a good-sized group of Big Orange fans in being a believer that, in spite of the strength of our SEC rivals, that great big letter "T" on those helmets will once again be faced with respect from the toughest of opponents......and with fear from all the rest. UT's on the way up in football, baseball, men's and women's basketball (and softball), so the upcoming 3 years should be entertaining in Neyland and wherever else the Big Orange appears. 'Just a guess, but I believe it's an educated one. GBO!
Watch this young man on U-Tube. Worley and Peterman have their work cut out to keep ahead of Mr. Dobbs. Let the good times roll!
Oldster. I'm sure I'm considerably older than you are and my four MAJOR heart surgeries and a couple of dozen broken bones (from training and breaking horses), and a broken neck and back no doubt trump your misaligned menstrual cycles and tension headaches. Nonetheless, I'm still running my ranch and actively living out my retirement You'd never have made it this far being so hung up on the negative goblins one's imagination can bring up. I'll pray for you,though, as we can all continue growing up. "As for those such as the ones calling themselves Owensboro and SevenT,et al; I'm disappointed in the KNS for allowing their trailer-trash talking and for those mental midgets who can't constrain their urges to fire off idiotic retorts.....feeding those Jeff Flowers groupies their doggie treats. I know I'm not alone in looking forward to a promising fall and winter for Big Orange sports in 2013/14. GBO and may God bless you all.
in response to Jediphysics: I really can't believe the comments I'm reading. We just cut the scholarship offer on a kid who averaged 3 points a game his senior year. I promise you an academic scholarship would be pulled for a kid who makes D's and F's his senior year, no matter how challenging the academic rigor at his school. This hurts Martin with nobody except those who have no desire to work hard and succeed. Perhaps the offer should never have been made, but considering what Martin walked into in the wake of Pearl, he had to take what he could get for awhile. Potential does NOT equal performance and does NOT guarantee development. Good move coach! I'm sure you did it in a class way. The rest of you fans, quit brow beating our coach and let him do his job.
in response to Jediphysics:
I really can't believe the comments I'm reading. We just cut the scholarship offer on a kid who averaged 3 points a game his senior year. I promise you an academic scholarship would be pulled for a kid who makes D's and F's his senior year, no matter how challenging the academic rigor at his school. This hurts Martin with nobody except those who have no desire to work hard and succeed. Perhaps the offer should never have been made, but considering what Martin walked into in the wake of Pearl, he had to take what he could get for awhile. Potential does NOT equal performance and does NOT guarantee development. Good move coach! I'm sure you did it in a class way. The rest of you fans, quit brow beating our coach and let him do his job.
Spot on metaphor. I heartily concur Jedi! The idea is to win games via the best scholar athletes available. Early on this was more of a problem than It has become of late, so CCM's decision is a no brainer..........except for those with no brains. I, too, am sure he's done it all with class and kindness.
in response to 1vavolfan: Don't know why people bash this league. No summer games feature much defense and if these guys aren't playing in PRTL they are playing pick up games. It's great if you have kids, it is the only place where they can get autographs and interact with the players.
in response to 1vavolfan:
Don't know why people bash this league. No summer games feature much defense and if these guys aren't playing in PRTL they are playing pick up games. It's great if you have kids, it is the only place where they can get autographs and interact with the players.
Agreed. Besides, we know CCM is going to have these guys playing top notch defense, so why not work on the offensive nuances they'll find useful this coming season?
No proof folks. No evidence. Those of you pronouncing Yemi guilty are naive to the reality of such a high incidence of false charges. Claims of this nature are many times proven to be contrived, as it's an easy way for a person to "get even" (male OR female initiated) for one reason or another. Who among you finger pointers knows the prior contributing factors involved? The truth of the matter is you just don't know. That's why we have a court system; flawed as it may be. As for those of you taking that pathetic gator troll's bait hook line and sinker......re-posting that sociopath ten times so far; here's a news flash, sports fans: The best way to get rid of these nuisances is to suggest removal and thereafter don't respond. Ignore them. Whatta' concept! Are you strong enough to hold back the urge to dispense with those "clever" quips you consider to be so brilliant?
This'll be a good one. Let's hope Mizzou can't shoot well with orange surroundings. Go Vols!
Keep doing what you're doing........just make shots.
Let's back up the tape and McBee hits a few of those open treys. Golden rips in a few floaters and.....all of a sudden.....packing the paint is killing the uglies. When your outside shots don't fall, which they have been doing of late, one coach looks brilliant and the other looks stupid. I say stick what got you that six game streak.....just hit the shots.
Am I the only person who kept yelling "where's the whistle" every time Stokes had the ball. Two separate games were called today. One was a call-all-ticky-tack on the Vols (except for one foul that UT got away with), and the other was "no blood...no foul" for UGA. This poor job of officiating was a disservice to the SEC, so I'd say this wasn't Slive talking.....it was money. The refs took UT out of the game half-way into the first half.
in response to sameolvolalum: These emotional roller coaster wins sure do beat close losses. These guys are figuring out how to score in the clutch.....how to win. Great job CJM.
in response to sameolvolalum:
These emotional roller coaster wins sure do beat close losses. These guys are figuring out how to score in the clutch.....how to win. Great job CJM.
Oops! I meant CCM. Shut up. I'm old.
Graham failed at recruiting the best backs. He's proven nothing at UT and simply had superior backs to work with at SC. His leaving is pretty much a big nothing. FSU a better job? No. An extra $40k is most of what grabbed him. JA, you're getting weaker and worse.
Watch these money grubbing ex Vols come running home when Peyton comes around to coach qb's or something. If you're blaming Coach Jones for some reason, your head's up your grass! Good riddance Graham! Your heart's not in Tennessee, Jay. I've heard way too much of this VFL drivel........It was Dooley's little thing, anyways. GBO from us real fans!
in response to Olddogsrule: The Volunteer Athletic Department has had ill fortune with with expenditures for the Neyland renovation resulting in the much ballyhooed financial difficulties. Unless A&M has has financial backing in place they may be well served to proceed with expansion plans in phases. Given that in the not too distant future the quality of sports broadcast to ever higher tech television sets will pose competitive disadvantages to attending a game. Will we see sports broadcast in 3D? Will the ever rising cost of tickets, hotels, food & gas against a a smaller amount of the weekly paycheck available for entertainment spending make some folks just decide to stay home? Is this type of project too dangerous for educational institutions during this democratic regimes' continued economic floundering? Never worry, maybe they can fund a bailout, to include Tennessee and we can get some of the dollars back they so love to reach in our hip pocket and extract.
in response to Olddogsrule:
The Volunteer Athletic Department has had ill fortune with with expenditures for the Neyland renovation resulting in the much ballyhooed financial difficulties. Unless A&M has has financial backing in place they may be well served to proceed with expansion plans in phases.
Given that in the not too distant future the quality of sports broadcast to ever higher tech television sets will pose competitive disadvantages to attending a game. Will we see sports broadcast in 3D? Will the ever rising cost of tickets, hotels, food & gas against a a smaller amount of the weekly paycheck available for entertainment spending make some folks just decide to stay home? Is this type of project too dangerous for educational institutions during this democratic regimes' continued economic floundering? Never worry, maybe they can fund a bailout, to include Tennessee and we can get some of the dollars back they so love to reach in our hip pocket and extract.
You ought to move down here to South Carolina. Lots of people want to refight the civil war in this state, so you'd fit right in. Otherwise, keep your politics off this site.
A little momentum is a good thing as the boys are rounding out at a good time. Is it me, or is this site nice to read today? W's keep those trolls away. Here, kitty, kitty, kitty!
in response to manniesghost1903: Everyone should know by now I thought it was big mistake to fire Coach Fulmer after one year of trying to revamp the UT offense. However, that is history and there are no workable time machines available to go back and correct mistakes. I had hoped the youth of Kiffin with the counsel of his father might have been the medicine UT needed. However, that vanished in as quickly as it appeared. I had hoped Coach Derek Dooley would be a chip of the block of Vince Dooley. However, early coaching errors in the beginning left me with doubts which evidently led me to believe Hamilton's hire was a big mistake. I was born during the General Neyland era and I attended UT games when Wyatt was head coach. I remember watching the Baylor/UT Sugar Bowl in which a favored UT was beaten 13-0. Additionally, Johnny Majors lost the Heisman Trophy to Paul Horning of Notre Dame (a team with a losing record). I was also disappointed in recruiting but under the circumstances Butch Jones did a pretty good job in 30 days of work. Had he convinced Bell and Lawson to sign with UT rather than Ohio State and Auburn respectively, it might have been a top 15 class. I would have liked to have seen Tee Martin on the staff but it wasn't in the cards. The majority of the assistants coaches on the staff of Coach Jones have worked for and with him for many years. I look on that as a plus because the previous coach, as I recall, never previously worked with any of his staff members. I believe this may make the difference in close games. A winning season could make a big difference in next years recruiting. I don't think the previous coach could count on attracting all the "Vol Legacies" who will be seniors during the 2013/2014 school year. I believe Coach Jones will do all he can to rake in these sons of former Vol stars. If he is successful,he will have the base for a great 2014 recruiting class and UT will be on the road back.
in response to manniesghost1903:
Everyone should know by now I thought it was big mistake to fire Coach Fulmer after one year of trying to revamp the UT offense. However, that is history and there are no workable time machines available to go back and correct mistakes.
I had hoped the youth of Kiffin with the counsel of his father might have been the medicine UT needed. However, that vanished in as quickly as it appeared.
I had hoped Coach Derek Dooley would be a chip of the block of Vince Dooley. However, early coaching errors in the beginning left me with doubts which evidently led me to believe Hamilton's hire was a big mistake.
I was born during the General Neyland era and I attended UT games when Wyatt was head coach. I remember watching the Baylor/UT Sugar Bowl in which a favored UT was beaten 13-0. Additionally, Johnny Majors lost the Heisman Trophy to Paul Horning of Notre Dame (a team with a losing record).
I was also disappointed in recruiting but under the circumstances Butch Jones did a pretty good job in 30 days of work. Had he convinced Bell and Lawson to sign with UT rather than Ohio State and Auburn respectively, it might have been a top 15 class.
I would have liked to have seen Tee Martin on the staff but it wasn't in the cards. The majority of the assistants coaches on the staff of Coach Jones have worked for and with him for many years. I look on that as a plus because the previous coach, as I recall, never previously worked with any of his staff members. I believe this may make the difference in close games.
A winning season could make a big difference in next years recruiting. I don't think the previous coach could count on attracting all the "Vol Legacies" who will be seniors during the 2013/2014 school year. I believe Coach Jones will do all he can to rake in these sons of former Vol stars. If he is successful,he will have the base for a great 2014 recruiting class and UT will be on the road back.
Wow! My old eyes are really beginning to hurt from all the novelettes some of you fellas are posting up here. Mannie's ghost whatever. Thanks for the personal bio, but I could've looked it all up in my cache of favorite Vol posters.........not.
in response to kevininaugustageorgia: Gee, you wrote a whole book just for me. What can I say except, I'm flattered. I wont attempt to argue with you on all that, because I frankly don't wont to invest the time. I will say you absolutely did compare the current coach to Petrino. Even an East Tennessee education (Sweetwater is the hometown, not Augusta) could figure out your comment was meant to compare the two. "B.S. artists are easy to find. Arkansas had one who got caught". Your quote, not mine. If those words were not intended to attempt to convey Jones' character is comparable to Petrino, then you need to learn how to write, instead of me to read. Sorry you didn't like my sarcasim. It is simply my way of making a point about idiotic comments without actually calling the author an idiot. I judged your comments, not you. You, in turn, write a book to call me a homophobe and / or a racist. Nice. I'm guessing by your responding by name calling that you are not voting the straight Republican ticket lately. It's ok, nobody is perfect. Have a great day!
in response to kevininaugustageorgia:
Gee, you wrote a whole book just for me. What can I say except, I'm flattered.
I wont attempt to argue with you on all that, because I frankly don't wont to invest the time.
I will say you absolutely did compare the current coach to Petrino. Even an East Tennessee education (Sweetwater is the hometown, not Augusta) could figure out your comment was meant to compare the two.
"B.S. artists are easy to find. Arkansas had one who got caught". Your quote, not mine.
If those words were not intended to attempt to convey Jones' character is comparable to Petrino, then you need to learn how to write, instead of me to read.
Sorry you didn't like my sarcasim. It is simply my way of making a point about idiotic comments without actually calling the author an idiot.
I judged your comments, not you. You, in turn, write a book to call me a homophobe and / or a racist. Nice.
I'm guessing by your responding by name calling that you are not voting the straight Republican ticket lately. It's ok, nobody is perfect. Have a great day!
Whoa, Kev! Who got YOUR panties in such a wad? You two need to get a room, or at least find a spot underneath some bleachers to either duke it out or make out. At any rate.........keep it off here.
I see gay Jeff's back on line. Glenn Fords What? Keep your eyes off mine, Flowers!
in response to Orange_Beach: What are you talking about? Virginia Tech "upper tier"? Are we even talking about the same sport? Just tune in August 31 from Atlanta and get educated on "upper tier".
in response to Orange_Beach:
What are you talking about? Virginia Tech "upper tier"? Are we even talking about the same sport? Just tune in August 31 from Atlanta and get educated on "upper tier".
Oh. My bad. 'Sorry I left out those who were in diapers just a decade ago. You don't remember when VT had a very strong football program? Eat your Cheerios.
in response to voloffaith: Ha Ha..we know that you know that you know that you know you were trying to be cute with the wrong Butch...... On topic, forging relationships for the future is key. Interesting about the star system ratings game.
in response to voloffaith:
Ha Ha..we know that you know that you know that you know you were trying to be cute with the wrong Butch......
On topic, forging relationships for the future is key. Interesting about the star system ratings game.
I'm sure he didn't mean it. 'Didn't catch that myself until your post popped up..........but I'm old.
in response to Lvillebill: Looking forward to a long Butch Davis era.
in response to Lvillebill:
Looking forward to a long Butch Davis era.
Yep. Most of us do. Virginia Tech and Boise State built upper-tier programs with three star athletes using that same approach. CBJ will most certainly get the fours and fives in the future, but these new players will most likely meld in with a pretty good bunch already here.
This is a good time for the chemistry to meld with our guys. 'No pity for the cats. As has been pointed out by many others, Calipari is dependent on talent alone. UK's defense was a joke. I doubt they're going to recover from these last two whoopins.
in response to VolInIndy: how convenient, stallings planting draft seeds in Stokes' head. i think he wants him gone.
in response to VolInIndy:
how convenient, stallings planting draft seeds in Stokes' head. i think he wants him gone.
Ditto! Exactamundo! Stallings does NOT care to be facing Maymon and Stokes together in the low post. Who does? How shallow can one be Mr. Stallings?
I see gay jeff and his "effected" buddy are out trolling today. Don't feed the trolls, Vol fans.
in response to Olddogsrule: Rivals ... TN#2010th in SEC It's all alchemy; bat wings, snail hips, goat liver, cobwebs, and moon juice stirred in a cauldron and fed out to the masses. No one knows how the classes will turn out and that's a fact. The only thing that matters as far as ranking is concerned is that you get as many ranked as high as you can because so many fall or fail. Only, and I mean only, the currently perceived top schools and coaches can consistently sign the quantity of 4 and 5 star recruits to maintain that skill level on the field after all of the attrition. Schools like Miss get a few who wouldn't go anywhere else, etc but the 5*s want a ring, you would too. It will take any coach, ... any coach, will come to UT several years to get this program back on track. Strong did not want that job. Gruden did not want the job ... even after he got some jollies asking for big numbers unofficially, getting most -or even all he asked for-depending on who you believe, then officially said no. So the reality we have is actually well ... reality! CBJ wanted the job. It's his dream job. Too many posting on here are like the kid in dad's arms pointing at the moon an crying "Want! Want!" You guys darn well know you can't have it and so cuss everyone in sight. This signing class has at least three players who I consider at 4* level that are under the radar. Jabo, Woody, and Charlie. Each of these guys are going to push those ahead of them to play better to keep their positions. They will only make the program better. The rest of the bonafide 10 4*s signed will have their work cut out for them to prove themselves. I wish them all the best! Go Vols!
Rivals ... TN#2010th in SEC
It's all alchemy; bat wings, snail hips, goat liver, cobwebs, and moon juice stirred in a cauldron and fed out to the masses. No one knows how the classes will turn out and that's a fact. The only thing that matters as far as ranking is concerned is that you get as many ranked as high as you can because so many fall or fail. Only, and I mean only, the currently perceived top schools and coaches can consistently sign the quantity of 4 and 5 star recruits to maintain that skill level on the field after all of the attrition. Schools like Miss get a few who wouldn't go anywhere else, etc but the 5*s want a ring, you would too. It will take any coach, ... any coach, will come to UT several years to get this program back on track. Strong did not want that job. Gruden did not want the job ... even after he got some jollies asking for big numbers unofficially, getting most -or even all he asked for-depending on who you believe, then officially said no. So the reality we have is actually well ... reality! CBJ wanted the job. It's his dream job. Too many posting on here are like the kid in dad's arms pointing at the moon an crying "Want! Want!" You guys darn well know you can't have it and so cuss everyone in sight.
This signing class has at least three players who I consider at 4* level that are under the radar. Jabo, Woody, and Charlie. Each of these guys are going to push those ahead of them to play better to keep their positions. They will only make the program better. The rest of the bonafide 10 4*s signed will have their work cut out for them to prove themselves. I wish them all the best!
Go Vols!
Amen olddog! A super solid O-line with excellent talent at QB (smart guys who can actually read defenses) will make for an easier time for RB's and receivers. DL depth with experience trumps glam newbies any day and, what I think is a little mentioned positive regarding the coaching staff is they're on the same page from the get-go, which will show itself by O&W game time. You'll see. Coach Jones was smart enough to choose his staff the way he did, particularly considering the haze of doubt hovering over UT's athletic situation. I'm just 62, but I expect to be cheering for that great big orange "T" at the Georgia Dome before my Social Security kicks in.
Hey, Vol fans. I know it's easy to spew back at gay Jeff and Trader Blow, but it's far more enjoyable to trade comments with those other than these sociopaths. If you wish to respond, don't repost.......just state their names and say your piece. Nobody wants to read their drivel once, so don't annoy the rest of us by reposting......which is what these professionsl trolls love.
in response to Scoon: Now is unprecedented times within WildCat Country as AD Mitch Barnhart has vowed put our $$ where his big mouth is, assuring all of BBN that Kentucky IS going to be competitive, and right up there with ALL the rest of the SEC teams in ft. Ya know, UK has typically never really been that far off, consecutively, within point spreads when it's came to 'W's or 'L's with other SEC teams, when looking at our past conference records. We've, for the most part, been able to pretty closely hold our own, and have caused most teams to nearly always have to play us closely, right down to the wire, more times than not, in recent years. So, with our $$ backing this fb program, our new coach, and an AD who has vowed to bring his own name back up out of the lowly muck (among other things) here in KY....I think that the Cats have really gotten onto something and it is going to be big. And, UT, along with everyone else within the SEC, is going to really have to guard their own loins, as you will surely have your own jerseys full now, when trying to hang that what was once considered by many, the expected automatic 'L' upon the Cats
in response to Scoon:
Now is unprecedented times within WildCat Country as AD Mitch Barnhart has vowed put our $$ where his big mouth is, assuring all of BBN that Kentucky IS going to be competitive, and right up there with ALL the rest of the SEC teams in ft. Ya know, UK has typically never really been that far off, consecutively, within point spreads when it's came to 'W's or 'L's with other SEC teams, when looking at our past conference records. We've, for the most part, been able to pretty closely hold our own, and have caused most teams to nearly always have to play us closely, right down to the wire, more times than not, in recent years. So, with our $$ backing this fb program, our new coach, and an AD who has vowed to bring his own name back up out of the lowly muck (among other things) here in KY....I think that the Cats have really gotten onto something and it is going to be big. And, UT, along with everyone else within the SEC, is going to really have to guard their own loins, as you will surely have your own jerseys full now, when trying to hang that what was once considered by many, the expected automatic 'L' upon the Cats
Oh! This is so funny I had to respond. I normally don't re-post troll garbage but, puleeeeeeeze! Scoon. So the Vols need to "guard" their loins? Don't they throw flags for hitting someone there? And what's with all those commas? I don't think UK would appreciate an illiterate miscreant such as you touting an education from there. Bless your heart. You and your jarhead butt-buddy need to get a room...and lay off the bong.
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This is a sports site. Turn back to fox news or dittoheads.com to air out your political frustrations. On subject: It's far too early to make a determination as to the impact the new group will bring to UT.
considering UT will be able to hit the ground running with whatever group they end up with, this outfit will be in much better shape than the previous four or five.....maybe even further back than that. CBJ's system is set up (since he and all his coaches are on the same page), so whoever enrolls and whoever's already here won't be confronted with a confused group of coaches who aren't all that secure as to their tenures at UT. The system....be it Cincy's (although it's a proven winner) is at least lined up and ready to open up for business. I'm optimistic. Now. Let's get some 4 & 5*s.
in response to Rumblefish: I sort of feel sorry for these coaches. If they show no progress THIS YEAR...they are going to feel the heat of the fan base and the empty Neyland is going to put the pressure on the athletic department even more. Sure, you'll have some folks on here stressing "patience" and "the process" and will definitely hear a few "buying in" quotes. But the fact remains...this fan base has been patient, and is just plain fed up. Unfortunately, recruiting is struggling....BIG TIME. Butch Jones and company will have to win with less talent in order to bring in the good 4* and 5* recruits in the future.
in response to Rumblefish:
I sort of feel sorry for these coaches. If they show no progress THIS YEAR...they are going to feel the heat of the fan base and the empty Neyland is going to put the pressure on the athletic department even more.
Sure, you'll have some folks on here stressing "patience" and "the process" and will definitely hear a few "buying in" quotes.
But the fact remains...this fan base has been patient, and is just plain fed up.
Unfortunately, recruiting is struggling....BIG TIME. Butch Jones and company will have to win with less talent in order to bring in the good 4* and 5* recruits in the future.
Patience is what it is......patience; and quite a few of you youngsters are lacking it. What better course to take than implementing a virtually intact coaching staff.....all on the same page. You're complaining about higher salaries. Now it's your turn. Who would YOU hire (particularly at that bargain you'd like), wow would you convince them to move to Knoxville? And, how can you expect anybody to turn this truck around in just one season? Your turn.
in response to richvol: Not only that...Glenn Ford sucked as an actor.
in response to richvol:
Not only that...Glenn Ford sucked as an actor.
.....as did Jeff Flowers as a football player.
These guys will play tough and get better. the SEC's not overly loaded this year, so making it to the dance is a distinct possibility. We're with you fellas!
Right move, CBJ. The staff (most having worked together in the same program and within the same philosophy) will be on the same page from day one, and home flavoring within that group will only help.
in response to TheBigGipperNRealSports: Lets not go too far. It was a nice win, but this team if far from competing with ND, Standord, Baylor, and UConn. Beating a middle of the road SEC opponent with no tradition is not a reason to think this team has arrived. Still not sold on Holly and her ability to get a team ready to play on the road. See Baylor and Chattanooga.
in response to TheBigGipperNRealSports:
Lets not go too far. It was a nice win, but this team if far from competing with ND, Standord, Baylor, and UConn. Beating a middle of the road SEC opponent with no tradition is not a reason to think this team has arrived.
Still not sold on Holly and her ability to get a team ready to play on the road. See Baylor and Chattanooga.
Kids, since nobody else has got much of a clue as to how good or bad UT will be next year (since we don't know jack, yet!), just give it a rest and save your half-empty attitudes for dealing with the rest of your (apparently) miserable lifes.
I just don't have much patience for you knuckleheads crying like little girls about Pearl. He's gone and for some very legitimate reasons. Zo's doing extremely well with this bunch who just don't have what we had expected due to Maymon's injury. It'll be all right. These are just kids and I believe they'll make a respectable season out of this one. GBO!
in response to born2ride: We now have a BIg East coaching staff at an SEC school.
in response to born2ride:
We now have a BIg East coaching staff at an SEC school.
Urbie took a WAC staff to FU. How'd that work out? Ride this!
Kiffin's not a regular guy just moving up. He and his cronies raided UT's recruits from day 1, bad-mouthing the program and all done in a possibly illegal manner. USC alums won't tolerate another year like this past one, so maybe he and Tee can sell their LA mansions and buy bigger ones as they move on as the HC and OC at Prarie View A&M. "Suggest Removal" needs to be hit by one and all (Vol fans) for Seven T. Merry Christmas to all!
in response to LibertyVol: Jackson=Bammer/Bryant lover, Bryant hated TN (could not beat Neyland) therefore Jackson hated TN. Merry Christmas to the Orange Nation
in response to LibertyVol:
Jackson=Bammer/Bryant lover, Bryant hated TN (could not beat Neyland) therefore Jackson hated TN. Merry Christmas to the Orange Nation
Tweet this Jackson: Peyton will be voted NFL MVP this year AGAIN and you can't vote against him. Merry Christmas LibertyVol, and everyone else......including you whining trolls!
in response to HtownVol: So far Jones has lost two of Dooleys better 2 recruits (2 LBs that would have been nice) but that is expected with change. What is not expected is that the only replacement he has so far is a 3 star athlete and news that UT is now in the lead for the #149 athlete in the country now. We have seen on here too much about the "stars" and evaluating talent... We are still in a mess because Dooley did not sign near enough of the top talent. Bama,LSU, UF and UGA are all signing 4 and 5 star recruits and UT is signing 90-95% 3 star recruits with about 3-4 of the occasional 4 star recruits. This has to change and that is the bottom line. UT will not get back to the BCS until we see at least 10 players in each class that are 4-5 star recruits. This is all my opinion. GO VOLS
in response to HtownVol:
So far Jones has lost two of Dooleys better 2 recruits (2 LBs that would have been nice) but that is expected with change.
What is not expected is that the only replacement he has so far is a 3 star athlete and news that UT is now in the lead for the #149 athlete in the country now.
We have seen on here too much about the "stars" and evaluating talent... We are still in a mess because Dooley did not sign near enough of the top talent. Bama,LSU, UF and UGA are all signing 4 and 5 star recruits and UT is signing 90-95% 3 star recruits with about 3-4 of the occasional 4 star recruits.
This has to change and that is the bottom line.
UT will not get back to the BCS until we see at least 10 players in each class that are 4-5 star recruits.
This is all my opinion.
GO VOLS
Aren't we a bit impatient here? This is a DEAD period in recruiting. I'd suggest laying off the power drinks, Nervous Nellie.
in response to VolGrad: Asiantii Woulard, QB (dual-threat, Cincy offer)Marquez North, WR (UT offer, visit)Evan Berry, CB (UT offer)Elliot Berry, ATH (UT offer) Hope we get them all. Asiantii would add a different dimension to the offense. Wonder if it would negatively impact recruitment of WR and/or RB. Any thoughts?
in response to VolGrad:
Asiantii Woulard, QB (dual-threat, Cincy offer)Marquez North, WR (UT offer, visit)Evan Berry, CB (UT offer)Elliot Berry, ATH (UT offer)
Hope we get them all. Asiantii would add a different dimension to the offense. Wonder if it would negatively impact recruitment of WR and/or RB. Any thoughts?
Those four would certainly make for good gets. If you look at the Clemson offense, with Tajh Boyd and those speedy youngsters he's got to throw to, teams with strong armed, running qb's seem like a good predicaments for 5* receiving recruits to find themselves. I think Woulard's addition would lure more than it would run off. Opposing corners and safeties have to cheat their eyes away from the receivers, due to a breakaway qb.
Also, this is going to be the first coaching STAFF that has their system in place and will be able to coordinate with one another from the get-go. Teaching will take the place of familiarization. What's better than that? Tee? We don't need ya'!
When's the Orange and White game?
Petrino.
'Gotta' love all you sinless characters who so clumsily toss bricks in glass houses. The singular sure-fire coach who'd definitely....and no maybes here....produce a winning season from the get-go is Petrino. Hey. I'm a redeemed sinner who's done some REALLY boneheaded things in my life. However, I've learned from my mistakes and the better for it. How about you? It's a given that Hart has to produce a winner, or he'll be eating hammy burgers should he wind up with a lame hire. Petrino can coach our current talent and his recruiting capabilities are well known. He's got the SEC down! The parents of these recruits want trustable coaches, but they also want their kids to receive their educations and hopefully play on Sundays, once college days are over. Petrino has a great track record at doing exactly those things. People are remembered the most for what they've done last. I can assure you all, 10+ game winning seasons and BCS bowls will make forgetters out of all you prudies.
'Think I'll take a nap 'til Friday.
OK guys. Play basic, sound foutball. Hit 'em in the mouth every play. Play as if coach (fill in the blank) is looking at this game to pick his starters for 2013. Keep your heads up, as those great big orange T's on your helmets mean an awful lot to an awful lot of us........minus, of course, that AWFUL lot of whiners who'd even cry about a 12-1 season. We're with y'all all the way!
in response to VictorKruger: <Generic Dooley comment with 1-2 spelling and grammatical errors, already been made at least 500,000 times> <Generic next football coach comment w/2-3 errors, already made 250,000 times> Great to see the team finish the trip on a high note! Proper toughness and energy today. A lot of opposing forwards and centers are going to foul out trying to guard Stokes! He even played good defense and had a couple of nice passes to go along with all those points and rebounds. I really wish that Chievous would stop jacking up 3s. The team will be best served by him defending, rebounding, and picking up a few points with putbacks and fast break points. PS Doolys turrible! Definately hire Grudin!
in response to VictorKruger:
<Generic Dooley comment with 1-2 spelling and grammatical errors, already been made at least 500,000 times>
<Generic next football coach comment w/2-3 errors, already made 250,000 times>
Great to see the team finish the trip on a high note! Proper toughness and energy today. A lot of opposing forwards and centers are going to foul out trying to guard Stokes! He even played good defense and had a couple of nice passes to go along with all those points and rebounds. I really wish that Chievous would stop jacking up 3s. The team will be best served by him defending, rebounding, and picking up a few points with putbacks and fast break points.
PS Doolys turrible! Definately hire Grudin!
'Definitely agree with your post ecxept I definitely don't think Gruden's leaving ESPN and "definitely" isn't spelled with an "a".
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