Comments by westknoxrepub

Written on Nearly 5,000 votes later, GVX readers name their choice for the next head basketball coach:

in response to vut5686#1405392:

Let's see: (Well worded) logic rules out our top two choices. Pitino and the Colorado guy have already said, "Not interested." They probably will lead the parade or those so disinclined. We already are in single digits as to Vol fan interest. So, whoever we get is likely not going to please the majority of (at least) vocal fans.

The Belmont guy gets many favorable comments; he would be within our price range. But, to go for him runs counter to the oft voiced claim that "We have to hire a big name, successful coach." One presumably reaching the NCAAs on a regular basis.

When it is said and done, we might wish we had been nicer to the last guy. Any up and comer is unproven at major conference level; one plays their cards and takes their chances.

Yeah but Byrd has never won an NCAA tournament game. . .that's his downside. His work at Belmont is primarily smoke and mirrors and kind of got exposed when he switched conferences and failed to make the tournament this year.

Written on Cuonzo Martin addresses departure for Cal, his relationship with UT during Knoxville radio interview:

in response to Theo:

Interesting when he talked about the fan support he referred to the support given Coach Jones. The inferred is that he never felt that himself.
What a shame. If Karma exists we don't see the NCAA tournament for many years.
Go Bears!

The main reason we won't see the NCAA tournament next year is Coach Martin's horrid recruiting. He left while he could. . .after all Pearl's players, who carried him to a sweet 16 are gone, he's left with his roster. Everyone coming back next year was signed AND recruited by him.

It's telling that in the Dana O'Neal article she talks about the cupboard being bare. . .as if it isn't his fault. She's right. . .the cupboard is very bare, this is a less talented roster (by a mile) than the one Cuonzo inherited, and it's all Cuonzo Martin's fault.

Written on Cuonzo Martin leaves UT offer on the table for California:

Now that all of Pearl's players are gone he's not nobody to hide his flaws. We can do better.

Written on Tennessee State men's basketball transfer M.J. Rhett no longer considering Tennessee:

in response to fannotsheep:

I have to agree on Stokes, because he knew he was not going to play for Pearl. I give Bruce credit for laying a foundation with him but there's an agenda if others are saying Martin gets no credit for him signing -- and sticking around. Obviously I want better results for Vol basketball than we are getting. But there are positives. The future will work itself out, and UT fans should pull for our team and our coach.

If Pearl had never been our coach, Stokes would have never considered Tennessee. If Stokes had been allowed to play his senior season of high school. . .he would have wound up at Kentucky or Memphis. He's not Martin's player, all Martin's players are fixing to lead us to the CIT. . .or transferred. . .Martin wanted Wes Washpun over Kevin Ware, just remember that.

Written on Kingsley Okoroh a giant addition to a Vols team in need of frontcourt players:

in response to bUTch__please:

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Project Player on a team of project players. . .next year will hopefully be Martin's swansong. I'd say he should have taken the Marquette job while he had the chance, but the truth is they turned him down.

Written on Tennessee State men's basketball transfer M.J. Rhett no longer considering Tennessee:

in response to fannotsheep:

If you've read any of my posts you know that I'm a huge Bruce Pearl fan. I think it was criminal that the NCAA was able to force UT to fire the best coach the program has had, at least since Mears, if not ever.

But help me out here, because while I would gladly have sent Martin packing to bring back Bruce, I don't understand your position towards him. I agree that he has not signed a great player totally on his own, but I give him credit for keeping Stokes and Hubbs. And while I was wondering what the… after last year's team was 16-11, I also give him credit for a nice run to close out the regular season and advance to the Sweet 16. His players finally got their heads out of their rear ends and played up to their ability.

But fraud? I don't get that. He cares about his players. He makes sure they attend class, nobody is robbing convenience stores or getting caught with guns and drugs. If Hubbs and Maymon were healthy, maybe the Vols beat Michigan and advance to the Final Four.

So to be fair, don't you have to give him some credit to go with the blame?

Last year's team was 100% thanks to Stokes, Maymon and McRae, all 100% Bruce Pearl's players. Martin, in all the recruting classes he's had, has brought in project players wanted by mid major NIT contenders, meaning that once Pearl's players cycled out we were going back to BuzzBall. Yet, because Pearl's players carried Martin on their back to a sweet sixteen, everyone think's he's a great coach and we should keep him. He's a fraud because the image we're being sold isn't the truth.

Written on Tennessee State men's basketball transfer M.J. Rhett no longer considering Tennessee:

in response to bricker865#1439238:

hmmmm....I hope the fans (including myself) are verrryy patient next year!!

Why? Martin has had three years to bring in talent behind Pearl's players and he hasn't. Next year is 100% his team, and given that most of his first class is no longer here, I think he's going to be exposed for the fraud that he is.

Written on Kingsley Okoroh a giant addition to a Vols team in need of frontcourt players:

Boomer Herndon Part II. . .what part of "needs to improve recruiting" does Martin not understand?

Written on Tennessee guard Quinton Chievous will transfer outside of SEC:

in response to AxeMan:

Why don't you look up the history of how many of Pearl's players left, got kicked off the team, got kicked out of school or were recruits who committed but never made it here. Kevin Ware transferred from UT? In what universe?

Kevin Ware is tranferring from Louisville. He was all set to come to Tennessee but Martin told him don't bother and promptly signed guys like Cheivous, Yemi and Washpun.

Written on Tennessee guard Quinton Chievous will transfer outside of SEC:

So is there anyone left from his first recruiting class? Kevin Ware's transferring, but I kinda doubt he wants to play for a coach to told him he'd rather have Wes Washpun. Next year can be summed up in two words: Dumpster Fire.

Written on Cuonzo Martin will remain at Tennessee; contract modifications underway:

Marquette chose an unproven assistant. Hopefully Hart does the right thing and keeps "modifications" on the low end so the buyout won't cost us next year after we have to fire him.

Written on Mike Strange: Vols holding ground in SEC will be tough, no matter the coach:

in response to murrayvol:

We got the last slot available to the SEC this year......and we didn't get it by much. If the FU game in the SEC tourney had been a blowout, the SEC would've had 2 teams in the Dance.

There is no love for the SEC on the NCAA Selection Committee and there hasn't been for awhile. The conference has to step up in OOC play or be left at the gate.

I think after this year's tournament, given the poor seeding across the board, the process will be reviewed. We got in by the skin of our teeth with a senior laden team, played a distracted Iowa Team, an overseeded UMass Team and Mercer. . .and people want to talk about what a great coach Cuonzo is. Bottom line, there's nothing to replace the 85% of scoring and rebounding we lose, and we're stuck with a dud.

Written on What's next? Cuonzo Martin and Tennessee update :

If I were Dave Hart, I'd give him a mild raise, one year extension and a low buyout so when we fire him after next year it won't cost us. . .or better yet, try to convince Boston College, Wake Forest or california he's the perfect fit and hope they don't do any research.

Written on What's next? Cuonzo Martin and Tennessee update :

in response to catknox:

I hope that Coach Martin is given a long term contract in order to stabilize the program and allow Vol Basketball to flourish at the top of the SEC.

Yeah, I know Kentucky, Florida and frankly every SEC program would love to see Martin as our coach for a long time.

Written on Source: Cuonzo Martin pulls his name out of running for Marquette position:

in response to GerryOP:

So wkr, what you are saying is that those left on the roster will never be better than they are today. Three years ago you would have said the same about McRae, Stokes, Richardson, and Maymon ... not starters or difference makers.

We now have an entire squad recruited by 'Zo. This means that they all have the talents to fit 'Zo's style of play. 'Zo will develop those talents.

Hubbs, Richardson, Moore, Davis, and Reese appear to be a pretty good foundation for a team. With a little coaching from 'Zo, we will be fine.

Um. . .we barely made it into the tournament this year with Stokes, Maymon, and McRae. . .Martin has more losses vs. 100+ RPI teams in the past three years than Pearl and Peterson had combined. . .and our talent level is taking a serious drop (85% of scoring and rebounding wont' be here next year), to replace them he's bringing in four, three star players, only one of which got any offers from teams in the NCAA tournament. It's a serious drop off, and Marquette saw he couldn't recruit so decided to hrie an unproven assistant over Martin.

Written on Mike Strange: Vols holding ground in SEC will be tough, no matter the coach:

in response to underthehill:

How would the team this year done without Stokes, Maymon, Barton and McRae..lucky to have not finished close to the bottom..so how can anyone think the team next year is likely to finish in the top half of the SEC..I don't..

Most of the deniers are clinging to the hope that Stokes come back. . .even if he does, there's nothing else there. We've seen what Stokes does on his own, and he can't do it all himself. The talent level is taking a serious dip after this year, and Martin's bringing in three star cast offs that nobody of consequence actually wanted to try and replace 85% of his offense. If Martin stays he'll never coach at a high level again, because he'll be exposed.

Written on Source: Cuonzo Martin pulls his name out of running for Marquette position:

in response to GerryOP:

wkr, you keep posting the same trash and junk over and over and over. You must enjoy being wrong.

WITH McRae, Maymon and Stokes, Martin made the NCAA tournament once in three years. . .what about what's left gives you confidence he can get back in the tournament. Medicore players in a bad leage are not going to get into the tournament. Just do your research, look at who he's brought in here. Four players in this years class, all three stars, only one of which had any offers from top level programs, and even Austin's offer list is so-so.

Written on Source: Cuonzo Martin pulls his name out of running for Marquette position:

I think what happened was Marquette did their homework, saw what a horrible recruiter that Martin is, and said no thanks, but allowed him to save face by stating he pulled out. Let's hope Wake Forest wants him and doesn't do a thorough background check.

Written on Source: Cuonzo Martin pulls his name out of running for Marquette position:

in response to AxeMan:

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Three star recruits with unimpressive offer lists will not win here, all Pearl's players are gone, it's going to get bad.

Written on Source: Cuonzo Martin pulls his name out of running for Marquette position:

If he stays, he's never going to have an opportunity like that again. After his recruting is exposed here and we fall into the basketball abyss, he's going to get fired and have to take jobs in bad small time conferences. If he wants to get to Purdue he needs to go.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to no1djkb#278630:

I know more about the subject than you know trust me on that and when someone attacks another individual with no basis to do so they are showing hatred towards that person and since you do not know Coach Martin personally it must be something else because you are leaving out the part of how much trouble Coach Pearl got the program in and how no one wanted to come here because there was a cloud over the basketball program. You are basically blaming an innocent man who came to a program not knowing if it would be in big trouble to try to build it back up. Also leaving out the fact year two he did not have the team's leader (maymom) and leaving out one of team's main scores (Golden) had to leave because of grades. This is not football dude. Losing one player can hurt you, just Oklahoma State this year.

I don't hate the man, I just don't think he should be the basketball coach at the University of Tennessee, and I sure as heck don't think he's worth $2 million a year. Even if you believe the lie he had to rebuild, the fact that next year, his FOURTH year, we aren't a likely tournament team means he hasn't rebuilt anything. Next year, if he's back (and for the sake of the program let's hope he isn't) when we don't make the tournament, what will your excuse be then? He needs more time? Five years isn't enough time? The other lie is nobody else would have come here. . .Frank Martin and Larry Brown were available. . .oh and I'm pretty sure Greg Marshall was interested, but we took the guy with no track record and we're suffering because of it. Clean program. . .guess we'll sweep Yemi under the rug.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

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Stokes was recruited entirely by Pearl, and the only reason he wound up at Tennessee was because at the time he chose, Kentucky nor Memphis had a scholarship to offer.

Written on Marquette asked Hall of Famer Gene Keady for reference on Vols coach Cuonzo Martin:

in response to GerryOP:

Just for you wkr, we'll bring back Buzz Peterson.

If we keep 'Zo we'll be back in the Tournament next year. It'll take 2-3 years if we have to find a new coach. Never if we bring back your Buzzer.

Funniest thing I heard all day. . .exactly how does a team losing 85% of it's scoring and rebounding get back in the tournament next year? What exactly do we have coming in that makes you think we'll make the tournament next year? Even Rucker, who is practiaclly a member of the Martin family by this point, doesn't think we'll make the tournament next year.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

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Not self contradiction, it was his most talented team ever thanks to three players (85% of scoring and rebounding) exactly zero of which were recruited by Martin.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

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Written on Marquette asked Hall of Famer Gene Keady for reference on Vols coach Cuonzo Martin:

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-foot...

Pretty much sums up why we shouldn't pay $2 million for smoke and mirrors.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

Geez, you just said O'Neill and Peterson were good recruiters, and that it takes better talent to win. But neither one of those guys could win. That would be contradicting yourself.

"63-41, averaging 21 wins per year and 3-1 in the NCAA tournament with an appearance in the Sweet 16 that came within one questionable call of the Elite 8. All that coming after the previous coach had to be fired for cheating and lying."
Which is the smoke and which are the mirrors? I just see stats and history.

More losses in three years vs. 100+ RPI teams then in the past 10 years previous. . .that's what I see. I also see his pathetic recruting classes. Pearl was a better coach and recruiter, he brought in talent and coached them up. Buzz and O'Neial brought in talent, didn't coach them well, the coaches who followed did a better job. Martin's not the answer for this program, shouldn't have been hired in the first place. Qualification One should have been an NCAA tournament appearance, which he didn't have. Smoke and Mirrors. . .other people's players, a weak back end of the schedule, and the easiest NCAA draw ever. If you look at the whole season, he underachieved with his most talented team ever, and there's nothing coming in behind them, so it's just going to go downhill. People are willing to overlook three years of mediocrity because of three weeks of good fortune. Better to stop the problem now than wait until it gets worse and we have to dig ourselves out of a bigger hole.

Written on Marquette asked Hall of Famer Gene Keady for reference on Vols coach Cuonzo Martin:

in response to RockyTop1:

Coach Zo is only one of four basketball coaches at Tennessee to EVER make the NCAA tournament!! He IS a keeper that should be given more time, face it BRUCE is gone get over it and support OUR Coach!!

As someone said "put up or shutup"!! GO VOLS!!

He's one of five, but who's counting. . .and he did it with another person's players. He's had three years and even his defenders don't think next year's team is going to make the tournament. . .that's why he needs to go.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to 798orange:

Difficult question---how many teams made the sweet sixteen? You prove his point about your lack of knowledge on the sport with each successive comment.

making it to the sweet sixteen by defeating an overseeded UMass team and Mercer isn't the great accomplishment it's made out to be. Don't get me wrong, seeding was bad this tournament, one of the worst jobs ever. Iowa was his best win and they're average, but as a whole the tournament run wasn't a great coaching job so much as it was a fortunate set of circumstances.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to no1djkb#278630:

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I highly doubt you know the proper context to use the term "racism" and "racist", but no, it's not the color of his skin I have a problem with, it's the quality of his recruiting that will lead us back to where we were under Buzz Peterson (record wise). Again, it's not just my opinion, but your sure fire way to "win" the argument is to call anyone who disagree's a racist. Stay Classy San Diego.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

All of my opinion is based on evidence. The most telling piece is wins and losses. 63-41, averaging 21 wins per year and 3-1 in the NCAA tournament with an appearance in the Sweet 16 that came within one questionable call of the Elite 8. All that coming after the previous coach had to be fired for cheating and lying. Your only evidence is that CCM is obviously not Bruce Pearl. Get it in your head, nobody else is Bruce Pearl, quit pining away for what you can't have. Doe Devoe only averaged 18.5 wins per year and I think he was a good coach too. Wade Houston was a bad coach, Kevin O'Neill was a bad coach, Buzz Peterson was a bad coach. On the evidence UT's best coaches have been: Ray Mears, Bruce Pearl, Cuonzo Martin, Don Devoe. You can quibble on the order, but not who's included.

Don Devoe was a good coach who got lazy on (wait for it) the recruiting trail. In fact, his recruting looks alot like Martin's, the only difference is now the SEC is so bad, it's easy for Martin to hide his flaws behind Pearl's players and a weak conference. Martin's recruiting is abysmal, that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many many people. Your opinions are based on smoke and mirrors that you obviously don't have ability to see through. O'Neal was a bad coach, good recruiter, Peterson, bad coach, good recruiter. Martin's is better at x's and o's, but that's not going to win games everyone in this conference who matters has better talent than you do.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to GBOEngineer:

I don't think that you are a racist - you just don't understand NCAA basketball.

I understand it perfectly. Martin won with Pearl's guy, all of whom will be gone next year, and when we don't make the tournament people will want more time for him to bring "his players" into the program despite the fact he's had three years to do so. They cite Martin's running of a "clean program" despite the fact Yemi was basically shown the door for sexual assault. Martin's stock has peaked, he's benefited from someone else's handiwork, and will hopefully (for the sake of OUR program) ride it to a job he thinks is better. Marquette may regret the decision once Williams players leave and they're stuck with a bunch of mediocre basketball players.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

Reverted? I've always thought you were a racist.

You think Cuonzo Martin is a good coach. . .most of your thoughts aren't based on evidence.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

Why don't you go back to attacking Obama? Last time I checked he is still a black man in a position of authority.

Ahh yes, you've reverted to the "if you don't like Cuonzo you're a racist" garbage.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to AxeMan:

You and your ilk are the greatest threat to the program. Ironically it's a program brought to prominence by Bruce Pearl and now you're trying to bring it back down because you like Bruce Pearl.

Trust me if Martin stays he won't need my help bringing it back down, he'll be able to accomplish that all on his own. Even his defenders like Rucker concede that next years team probably won't be going to the tournament.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to 798orange:

Too many inaccurate comments not to respond. First of all, you claimed a few days ago that Richardson was not a good player. To repeat, he made the all-sec defensive team and then he continued to improve. He raised his game in the tournament and played the best of anyone on the team. Your claim that Martin did not improve the talent is absurd. McRae, Maymon, and Stokes have all developed into better players under Martin, not Pearl. A decent foundation is present for whomever is our coach next year.

Richardson is the Devin Downey of UT. . .in a bad SEC he's above average, but never going lead your team to victory. Martin's underachieved during the regular season for the past three years, and rode a favorable (read: Lucky) NCAA tournament draw to the Sweet Sixteen. Now hopefully he leaves so that he won't completely destroy our program back to early to mid 90's levels.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to GBOEngineer:

First, Martin signed Stokes.

Second, you do know that typing something in ALL CAPS doesn't make it TRUE.

Pearl recruited Stokes, then the TSSAA and their stupid ruling made Jarnell available halfway through his Senior season of High School when Memphis and Kentucky didn't have any scholarships to offer.

Second, you're right, but it being true makes it true.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

in response to Dgage:

And you sir don't know what you are talking about. Here are some facts for you.

* With the mess Bruce Pearl left, no established coach would take the job.
* People were talking about the down year Pearl would have had if he had coached another year.
* Coaching changes usually suffer in recruiting because it takes time to build relationships with HS kids and coaches.
* Coach Martin is a 20+ wins a year coach which is better than all but 2 coaches in the SEC these past 3 years.
* Coach Martin has improved each year and finally made the tournament and made noise and a name for himself in this tournament.
* Coach Martin was on the hot seat this year so recruiting was difficult and suffered.
* Recruiting should be better going forward.
* His players are finally playing his style so their play should be improved next year, regardless of what Stokes does.

With all of that said I think we need to give Coach Martin a chance to see how good he can be and frankly I'd like to keep him.

But a part of me thinks Coach Martin should go somewhere else where he will be appreciated. And if you think we will get a big name coach, I doubt it. Coaches heard about our toxic fan base and fans like you. They'll take jobs like UCLA or Marquette before TN.

So be careful what you wish for, you just might get it and you'll have to endure several more years of mediocrity.

He's had three years, recruting isn't going to suffer for three years. He showed up and started handing out scholarships to one star prospects instead of saving those for better players. . .he told Kevin Ware his services weren't needed, then gave a scholarship to Wes Washpun. . .he is winning off the backs of players he did not recruit and if you think we're going to be good next year, especially if Stokes leaves, you're kidding yourself. Pearl did not leave the cupboard bare for Martin, there was plenty of talent there as is evidenced by this season, but Martin has done NOTHING to improve upon it, recruiting a bunch of players that nobody else wanted until this past season when he signed Hubbs. If Allen Houston taught us anything, one talented player isn't going to give you a winning season. Martin's a better coach than say, Buzz Peterson, but Peterson had better staff who recruited well. The next coach (and we can only hope we have a new one soon) will have to rebuild from the pile of rubble that Martin has left our program in and it'll take time. Hiring an unqualified coach like Cuonzo has set our basketball program back several years and killed the momentum that Pearl built. Whomever let Mike Hamilton hire this basketball coach need to be fired if he already hasn't. Larry Brown would have taken the job if we'd offered it to him.

Written on Report: Tennessee men's basketball coach Cuonzo Martin met with Marquette; Golden Eagles have "significant interest":

Clearly whoever did the vetting for the Golden Eagles forgot to look at his recruiting and how terrible it is.

Written on A season on the rebound: Vols roll into Sweet 16, send Cinderella Mercer home:

Pearl's players making Martin look good. Maybe he takes another job off of this so we can get a coach who can recruit and try to salvage what will no doubt be a losing season next year given the crop of 1 stars he's got behind Stokes, Maymon and McRae. Remember, this is the man who said Wes Washpun was a better prospect than Kevin Ware. Kevin Ware's national championship ring would beg to differ.

Written on Live coverage of the Tennessee vs UMass game:

Congrats Bruce Pearl's players, you deserve it. We'll probably delay the inevitable by a year when next season the smoke and mirrors go away. Recruting is part of his job, and he can't do it, best be pro active or hope he wants to go somewhere else. Granted, we have to beat Mercer to get to the sweet sixteen and history says we'll lose.

Written on Mike Strange: Aftershock of Auburn's Bruce Pearl 'Boom!' reaches the Vols in Dayton :

in response to johnlg00:

I rarely reply to you anymore, since you are convinced that you are the only one on this board who knows anything, but as usual your love for Pearl and hate for Martin has blinded you to the longer-term implications for the program of retaining Martin at least through next year.

There is absolutely no point in continuing to beat the Bruce Pearl dead horse. Now that he is at Auburn, we all know that he is not coming back to UT, and he is just about the only one who a majority of the fan base would fully support right away. Right now, I think that UT is just never going to offer anybody the $5mil/yr it would take to go after a really big name. Most people would look at a school who would just outright fire a coach who wins 20 games a year with no hint of NCAA scandal and minimal off-court boo-boo's by players who also graduates all his seniors as one with impossible expectations.

As for the idea that the Vols will be terrible next year, consider that if they ARE terrible with all his own players, which nobody can predict with any certainty, that would perhaps be grounds for any reasonable person to see why he might be fired. THEN it is possible to appeal to somebody on the basis that he will be given a pretty fair chance to rebuild an OBVIOUSLY struggling program. Heck, the administration might even be desperate enough and flush enough after seeing all the accumulated buyouts nearly completed to come up with some serious cash for a top-drawer replacement, all the moreso if Pearl rebuilds Auburn as fast as some think he will.

Much of this should be rendered moot if the Vols actually get through the first weekend of the NCAAs this year, at which point it would be lunacy to fire Martin on the basis of what some might PREDICT he might do next year. In the meantime, all this talk is just more unnecessary distraction for a team that wears OUR colors on the national stage.

But, of course, since you bear no responsibility for the program going forward, it is easy for you to simply gripe about things you can't possibly control and not care about any negative effect such sentiments may have on what you claim to be YOUR team.

What have Martin's players contributed to his "success"? He can't recruit, he's a terrible coach, and he's elminated all the momentum Pearl built in the program. Next year is going to be a sub .500 season with nobody in the stands, and there are PLENTY of coaches better than the joke we have that would jump at the chance to come in here and win. Martin will be leaving the next guy, whether it be this year or next year, with less than Buzz Peterson left Bruce. Martin's (barely) a better coach than Buzz, but Buzz had recruiters on his staff that left Pearl with something to work with. The job here is to win, and Martin underachieved with talent, so what the heck is he going to do when he has no talent (his players). The evidence is there, you're just too blind to see it. For the long term good of the program Martin needs to go and the sooner the better.

Written on Mike Strange: Aftershock of Auburn's Bruce Pearl 'Boom!' reaches the Vols in Dayton :

Pearl is a better coach than what we have, and we have no players coming back next year. Martin barely rode the NCAA tournament wave with three of Pearl's players and a cast off from Memphis. . .next year it's 100% his team and we'll be lucky if we even have a winning season. We can be pro active and fire him now, and hopefully hire a coach who would do better than Pearl, or we can wait until we fall on our face next year and hope anyone wants the job. If you think Martin is the right guy for the job, you're kidding yourself, in three years of recruiting he's produced nothing and half his signees aren't even on the team anymore. This is the man who said Wes Washpun deserved a scholarship over Kevin Ware. . .how'd that work out.

Written on Tony Jones, Steven Pearl named as assistants on Bruce Pearl's staff at Auburn:

in response to longandstraight:

It is kind of sad that Auburn would stoop to a new low. Reminds me of Tiger and his so called comeback. As an Auburn guy, Charles Barkley said when asked to give a one word response to the name Tiger Woods, he answered "sad". The same goes for Bruce Pearl. He won't be there very long. Not a big enough stage for a snake oil salesman.

Yeah how dare Auburn want to win. . .they should have hired a guy with no proven track record, no personality, who doesn't show passion when coaching, and barely wins with other people's players. . .like us.

Written on Tony Jones, Steven Pearl named as assistants on Bruce Pearl's staff at Auburn:

Still a better coaching staff than we have.

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to AxeMan:

1. Build a time machine. 2. Go back and tell Bruce not to lie. 3. Be really mad at Pearl because he left for someplace better 2 years ago.

He had a chance to leave for Indiana, Boston College and Iowa but didn't. . .so you know.

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to STLVOLS:

OK, Lets look at a solution. Pearl is gone. Keep CCM or make a big play for Gregg Marshall of Wichita State?? Or another specific coach. Names please of suggested coaches if you want a new one.

Also, remember that fans at other schools including Missouri want new coach.

So,what are your plans/hopes now ?? Instead of ranting, what is plan A and plan B???

In no particular order of prefrence:

Tad Boyle-Colorado

Marvin Menzies-New Mexico State

Larry Brown-SMU

Shaka Smart-VCU

Gregg Marshall-Witchita State

Lawrence Frank (probably the riskiest and my last choice, but he has Tennessee ties and an NBA pedigree)

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to AxeMan:

"nothing coming in"

Phil Cofer is coming in. I played against his dad back in the day and if that apple feel even remotely close to the tree he's going to be a player. Pretty insulting to the entire Vol Nation to call Mike Cofer's son "nothing."

Per ESPN.com, number of offers from NCAA tournament teams-1, and that's us. other offers were from Alabama, George Mason, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and South Carolina. . .not exactly the cream of the crop we fought against to get him.

Written on Back on the court: Bruce Pearl to coach Auburn basketball:

in response to bfaj34#1436246:

Thank you. Finally some sanity. To the rest, go be Auburn fans and remember that all of our sports suffered because of Pearl's indiscretions. Forgiveness is required but forgetfulness is the path to stupidity. Get over it and let's support what we have.

Uh, no. It was actually Kiffen's wrong doings that brought the NCAA investigators to campus, not Pearl's. Although in the grand scheme of things Mike Hamilton is the reason we've suffered. Dooley and Martin are both Hamilton hires.

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