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in response to voloffaith: At this point in his brief tenure can't fault effort. Yes we all know the program is judged by the on the field results. That being said, also a builder understands about having a solid foundation so his work will not suffer due to shortcuts taken to get the product out there quickly. In today's society of quick fix,fast food mentality most fan bases want the quick fix and forget that foundation stuff. Somewhat the mentality of a former coach here now on the west coast. "The wise man built his house on the rock." Not on the sinking sand. Are we as fans in it for the long haul or short term gratification that will most likely have a repeating cycle of disappointment due to shoddy base/foundation? I'll take steady growth that points toward future quality versus the give me now or I go home mentality.
in response to voloffaith:
At this point in his brief tenure can't fault effort. Yes we all know the program is judged by the on the field results. That being said, also a builder understands about having a solid foundation so his work will not suffer due to shortcuts taken to get the product out there quickly. In today's society of quick fix,fast food mentality most fan bases want the quick fix and forget that foundation stuff. Somewhat the mentality of a former coach here now on the west coast. "The wise man built his house on the rock." Not on the sinking sand. Are we as fans in it for the long haul or short term gratification that will most likely have a repeating cycle of disappointment due to shoddy base/foundation? I'll take steady growth that points toward future quality versus the give me now or I go home mentality.
Excellent post.
Golf is not a team game. It is an individual game with a team score. Saw Goss play in a tournament in Australia. He is the real deal. Don't know much about the others. The boys had a bad day. It happens! Trust me, they are not happy about it. It is not all on the coach.
When are kids going to realize that when you are in the spotlight, everything you do is important. At this moment he can kiss the big $ bye-bye. Too bad. Has great arm, no brains.
He is not ready. There is no big money for players that are predicted to go in the second round or later. Needs to learn better footwork. Needs to learn so many things that would make him an elite player. He doesn't have those things, and at this stage of development, that type of player spends most of his time on the bench, or being cut. He didn't even make 1st team all star in his conference. In high school, your size makes you BMOC. In college you are just one of a bunch of good players. In the pros, you are nothing to the best in the world. He can't be that stupid. Gotta stay and build your draft status so you can make the real $$.
Why in heaven's name would Stokes declare. He is not even close to ready for the NBA. An excellent year with a good team (possible next year with Maymon coming back) would give him a much higher ranking for the draft. If he declares, it will be a bigger mistake than Hopson. That mistake was huge.
Now we have to hope CCM is doing his off season practice on how to improve game coaching skills, and the ability to adapt and overcome!
Te QB's had no real good coaching in there first years here. Hope they realize they have to improve FAST. Like what bUTch has brought to the program!
With the recruits coming in, can only improve! Barring injury, we should have plenty of talent to sit someone that is not playing up to snuff in a game. None of our players come close to what Parker was. She was awesome at all positions, and made all the players around her better. Unselfish, but selfish when she needed to be.
in response to underthehill: On the plus side..attendance is strong..no players have been in serious trouble..Martin seems to have the support of his players..Martin appears to be well respected by his peers..it seems probable UT would have made the big show if Maymon had got to play..on the other side..Martin is going to have to take a look at his views about playing no zone..being predictable is not in the best interest of helping your team win..Martin is giving cause to question his ability to adjust during games..I am not giving up on Martin's ability to recognize this and improve his own coaching..I think he will have a stronger roster next year and will make the dance..I hope it happens.. unfortunately for Martin..UT does have lots of fans who know the game of basketball and recognize when the fundamentals are not being practiced by the team..gotta improve this..and forget the extension stuff..do such a good job it will be offered..
in response to underthehill:
On the plus side..attendance is strong..no players have been in serious trouble..Martin seems to have the support of his players..Martin appears to be well respected by his peers..it seems probable UT would have made the big show if Maymon had got to play..on the other side..Martin is going to have to take a look at his views about playing no zone..being predictable is not in the best interest of helping your team win..Martin is giving cause to question his ability to adjust during games..I am not giving up on Martin's ability to recognize this and improve his own coaching..I think he will have a stronger roster next year and will make the dance..I hope it happens.. unfortunately for Martin..UT does have lots of fans who know the game of basketball and recognize when the fundamentals are not being practiced by the team..gotta improve this..and forget the extension stuff..do such a good job it will be offered..
Good post
Committee was correct! They did not belong in the NCAA!
Good kid. Good choice. He will flourish here!
NEXT!!!!!!
Good win. Let the chips fall as they may.
So far, like what I see. Hope it works out.
Just keep playing with intensity! Remember, the goal is to get to the final four. You don't do that without intensity, on both ends of the floor!
in response to MDiv: Bruce Pearl? But seriously, I would vote for Meryl Streep.
in response to MDiv:
Bruce Pearl? But seriously, I would vote for Meryl Streep.
Meryl is too old and too short!
McRae is not NBA ready. Sportswriters just like to stir up the pot!
The John Wooden of women's basketball, but so much more!
If TN can learn to take care of the ball, and throw quick short passes, they should be able to pull this off. Need good guard play.
First, McRea is not ready for the pros. He needs another year to mature and put on some pounds. Second, Bruce won't be back. Too much baggage. Three, I agree CCM's recruits have not been anything to rave about. Stokes can be a force in the league, but too many inconsistencies right now. Think he will continue to improve with Maymon back on the floor next year. Other bigs just don't have enough power and shooting to keep defenses off Stokes. This team needs scorers bad. Don't see improvement in that area with the players we have. The best teams have players that do everything consistently every game, not in spurts! Therefore a coach can plan as he knows what every player will bring to the floor in most games. This team at best is a work in progress. I want them to better, but I am realistic. We might get to the post season, but we aren't good enough at this time to go a long way.
CCM should have adjusted game plan at half time to deal with what they were doing. He didn't. The players didn't perform. We lost!
31 turnovers, 6 assists! Yuck!
Enough with the Bruce stuff, he isn't coming back. Deal with it! Said it before, and I will say it again, until we bring in more real shooters, we will continue to have problems! On another point, why would our players even try to do something stupid 50 feet from the basket. You will get caught every time as it is in the wide open spaces and easy to see. Stupid play!
Just hope Massengale and Izzy are OK. If not, I know the other players will pick up the slack.
Make us proud! Welcome to Orange Nation!
I agree with the poster who is tired of looking at or hearing the race card being continually brought up. I don't care if his skin is yellow, purple, red, gold, or whatever. Just hire an excellent coach that can do the job.
About time on all three!
Nothing new here. TN coaches in a lot of sports have ignored the local talent. Still the same today!
in response to richvol: I don't know how many of you watched the UConn vs Baylor game on TV last night but if you did you saw a great,great game. You also saw teams that know how to pass the ball and not take bad shots. Both teams worked the ball into the post and when the defense tried to stop the shot the post laid it off to a cutting player for a layup. Beautiful execution and this type of cuts to the basket also set you up for offensive rebounds and put backs. Holly needs to use this tape for coaching her players. Instead of Massingale trying to feed the ball inside from 20 feet by throwing the ball at our posts feet and causing turnovers we desperately need better passing. The crispness of UConn's passing is very impressive.
in response to richvol:
I don't know how many of you watched the UConn vs Baylor game on TV last night but if you did you saw a great,great game. You also saw teams that know how to pass the ball and not take bad shots.
Both teams worked the ball into the post and when the defense tried to stop the shot the post laid it off to a cutting player for a layup. Beautiful execution and this type of cuts to the basket also set you up for offensive rebounds and put backs. Holly needs to use this tape for coaching her players. Instead of Massingale trying to feed the ball inside from 20 feet by throwing the ball at our posts feet and causing turnovers we desperately need better passing. The crispness of UConn's passing is very impressive.
Did see the game and it was fun to watch. I also believe that this would be a good training tape to see both the good and bad on both sides of the ball. Uconn did fluster Griner a little bit. She really began to get "chippie" in the 2nd half!
Duh - movement to and getting into any tournament is always one step at a time, or one game at a time. It is that way and has always been that way in sports.
Ariel does the little things that make her valuable. She is not perfect, but a force in many ways on the floor. Kamiko is under utilized for what she brings to the floor. Know she is dealing with the ankle, but the underutilization started much earlier than the injury. They are beginning to click as a team. Still having hiccups now and then. Believe in yourselves ladies. There are many things that go into each victory. If something is not going well that day, I am sure there are other things you can excel at to assure victory.
So far, liking this coach. Let the practice begin!!
It was a great win despite what anyone says. To another post earlier, Stokes is not even close to ready for the NBA. He and Maymon will make a formidable front line next year. Hopefully Yemi will continue to get better, as well.
Boys better keep their grades up!
Sounds like a good competition!
She is a legend of the game. Congrats!
Bout time we beat Vandy! Go Vols!
CBJ! His rookie season will definitely be the most important. As he goes, so does the rest of the team!
in response to OwensboroVol: I don't want to hear it. Phillip Fulmer had no trouble recruiting when he was head coach.
in response to OwensboroVol:
I don't want to hear it. Phillip Fulmer had no trouble recruiting when he was head coach.
Enough already. Fulmer had his run early. His last four or five years were not good. That is what started our downfall.
Great start to hopefully a great season.
WHEW! Turn overs still a problem. Glad to see they had the gumption to fight through everything to the end.
in response to ElizabethtonvolnNC: Given all of the circumstances surrounding this program and it's current state, the fanbase included I would rate it an A. Why? Averaging the three most "trusted" recruiting services would amount to 26th in the nation. As CBJ stated many times in the presser, this staff had 31 days and limited contact to make an impact. I don't want to hear about Auburn OR Ole Miss. How did Arkansas do? 2 years ago Auburn won a national champiionship, and the coaches they hired, all came from the SE. Our former Head Coach as constantly lamented by the legions, allowed for the deterioration of relationships in the high schools and the prospects they should have been recruiting. CBJ, at the eleven and half hour, at least was able to attract the interest of some 5* rated talent and kept some guessing until national signing day. This on top of coming into new territory, with a broken program, 4 coaching changes since 2008, no bowls in the last two years and consecutive losing seasons to go with it made the task that much more difficult. If half the the legions would realize that we are never going to get back to where we want to be unless we are all in, all the time and that others feel the excitement or negativity within a fanbase, and it's program. Otherwise you might as well go root for Bama or Vandy. Go VOLS and GO CBJ.
in response to ElizabethtonvolnNC:
Given all of the circumstances surrounding this program and it's current state, the fanbase included I would rate it an A. Why? Averaging the three most "trusted" recruiting services would amount to 26th in the nation. As CBJ stated many times in the presser, this staff had 31 days and limited contact to make an impact. I don't want to hear about Auburn OR Ole Miss. How did Arkansas do? 2 years ago Auburn won a national champiionship, and the coaches they hired, all came from the SE. Our former Head Coach as constantly lamented by the legions, allowed for the deterioration of relationships in the high schools and the prospects they should have been recruiting. CBJ, at the eleven and half hour, at least was able to attract the interest of some 5* rated talent and kept some guessing until national signing day. This on top of coming into new territory, with a broken program, 4 coaching changes since 2008, no bowls in the last two years and consecutive losing seasons to go with it made the task that much more difficult. If half the the legions would realize that we are never going to get back to where we want to be unless we are all in, all the time and that others feel the excitement or negativity within a fanbase, and it's program. Otherwise you might as well go root for Bama or Vandy. Go VOLS and GO CBJ.
Excellent post. We also have redshirts from last year playing. You don't get everyone you want. The proof will be more apparent 1 to 2 years from now. These are HS kids. Some will improve, some will not. We will have 4 quarterbacks to choose from unless 1 redshirts. We have receivers that redshirted last year. Picked up some DL's. Picked up some secondary. Picked up some great walk ons. Don't understand the continual gloom and doom from this fan base. Constructive comments or criticism is one thing. Negative a wholes are another.
Great win, both individually and team! I am sure more will be on the way. Good luck in your future matches!
All these players were recruited to play @ TN because they were among the best. Let em all play and prove how good they are, or why did you recruit them?
Well, I know we will show up. Whether we will play good enough basketball to win is the question.
Evidently the rest of the team is playing better, you know, with all our wins and all, especially on the road. Maybe it is time to sit some of those guys that keep losing, and try some of the guys that aren't playing.
But what is the statement, coaches prerogative! Watching this style of B-Ball is frustrating, especially when we keep losing. Just not seeing the improvement you should be seeing by this time in the season! I keep hoping for more, but, alas, it's just not coming!
Dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, lots of guys running around, dribble, even Stokes dribble, running out of time, throw up a brick, other team scores, dribble, dribble, awe, you get the idea. Supported CCM, but something is not working. CCM, nice guy, but like Dooley, don't see the training for improvement by the coaching staff, and do not see good game management and decision making. Hope we improve soon, or this is another throw away season. Like the Cubs, wait till next year, but with the Cubs, next year never came!
Really never in the game!
Holly has done a good job, and the players have stepped up their performances. Team continues to improve. Good job ladies!
The average person cannot afford to come to the game. By the time they buy a ticket, pay large parking costs, pay large concessions cost, etc., if you have 2 to 4 people, you have to cut out groceries for a few weeks. The average guy just doesn't have the discretionary income to do this. And, if you are not a donor, you are in the nosebleed seats. The other thing, how can fan's bash a coaching staff that hasn't even coached one game. Those posters are sad! Many of the top coaches now in the SEC started just like CBJ. They grew into the job. Know we haven't been stellar lately, but many are nasty and they haven't even gotten to signing day. Criticism is one thing. Giving an opinion is another. But the nasty posters are just ridiculous!
in response to eduardo: Gee if that the case...WHY THE HECK DID YOU NOT HIRE JON GRUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
in response to eduardo:
Gee if that the case...WHY THE HECK DID YOU NOT HIRE JON GRUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IDIOT! He said he does not want to coach college ball. You can't be that dumb to put a post like that on this site.
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